Studio 8 announced

If you haven't seen it, Macromedia has announced Studio 8. http://www.macromedia.com/software/studio/ Dreamweaver 8 has some nice new features including better CSS support. It also have some support for XSLT development. Flash 8 is mostly video/graphics updates, but one of the cool things for developers is a built-in mobile device emulator. --- Kevin Graeme Cooperative Extension Technology Services University of Wisconsin-Extension

I wonder if Homesite is included? And, if so, if it's been updated? I did notice in the video for DW that the first server side language support mentioned was CF... Kevin Graeme wrote:

> I wonder if Homesite is included? http://www.macromedia.com/software/studio/productinfo/faq/#item-1-5 > And, if so, if it's been updated? No ----------------------------   Massimo Foti Tools for ColdFusion and Dreamweaver developers: http://www.massimocorner.com ----------------------------  

Massimo Foti wrote: > http://www.macromedia.com/software/studio/productinfo/faq/#item-1-5 any idea when the player will be ready to download? will it help cfforms "go fast" too?

> > http://www.macromedia.com/software/studio/productinfo/faq/#item-1-5 > > any idea when the player will be ready to download? will it help cfforms > "go fast" too? I have no idea, sorry. Massimo

Flash Player 8? It's already available though not linked on the main Flash download page yet. Here's one place to get it. http://www.macromedia.com/software/studio/experience/ --- Kevin Graeme Cooperative Extension Technology Services University of Wisconsin-Extension > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Hastings [mailto:paul@sustainableGIS.com] > any idea when the player will be ready to download? will it > help cfforms "go fast" too? > >

Kevin Graeme wrote: > Flash Player 8? It's already available though not linked on the main Flash > download page yet. Here's one place to get it. > http://www.macromedia.com/software/studio/experience/ thanks. and does it put the "giddyup" into flashforms?

O yeah... wicked fast. They worked on a ton of performance upgrades. Kevin Massimo Foti wrote: > http://www.macromedia.com/software/studio/productinfo/faq/#item-1-5 any idea when the player will be ready to download? will it help cfforms "go fast" too?

On 8/8/05, Kevin Graeme <kevin.graeme@ces.uwex.edu> wrote: > > If you haven't seen it, Macromedia has announced Studio 8. > http://www.macromedia.com/software/studio/ > doesn't really look worth the upgrade cost ... -- mac jordan home: www.kestrel.org <http://www.kestrel.org> work: www.webhorus.net <http://www.webhorus.net> them: www.jordan-cats.org <http://www.jordan-cats.org>

I clicked on this link http://www.macromedia.com/software/studio/experience/ and upgraded firefox to the flash player 8. Now Flash doesn't work at all in firefox. F'ing great. Anyone else have this problem? On 8/8/05, Kevin Graeme <kevin.graeme@ces.uwex.edu> wrote:

On 8/8/05, Phill B <philthylabwrk@gmail.com> wrote: > I clicked on this link > http://www.macromedia.com/software/studio/experience/ > and upgraded firefox to the flash player 8. > Now Flash doesn't work at all in firefox. F'ing great. Anyone else > have this problem? > Nah, works for me. However, one thing I've noted is that it looks like FP 8 has caught many sites with their pants down in that their Flash detection scripts don't account for versions greater than 7 (even though 8 should work). For example, comedycentral.com tells me to go install Flash even though I have it installed, and their site is virtually useless from a navigation standpoint without Flash. I think it will be some time before you see a smooth transition across the web to support Flash Player 8. That being said, we need to keep in mind that the Player is still in a beta, so these sites are probably (hopefully?) doing internal testing before updating their respective sites. Regards, Dave.

I wish bad script detection was the problem for me but its not. Things work great in IE but not flash. Oh well. On 8/8/05, Dave Carabetta <dcarabetta@gmail.com> wrote:

On 8/8/05, Phill B <philthylabwrk@gmail.com> wrote: > I wish bad script detection was the problem for me but its not. Things > work great in IE but not flash. Oh well. > Have you made sure to install the latest beta that was released on Friday (not sure if you had a beta installed previous to that)? Also, this blog entry (well, the comments) might suggest something: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd/archives/2005/08/new_player_beta.cfm It looks like one of the popular Firefox extensions doesn't play well with Flash Player 8 content. Other than that, I have nothing else to suggest, sorry! Just trying to brainstorm with you. Regards, Dave.

On Monday 08 August 2005 15:58, Dave Carabetta wrote: > detection scripts don't account for versions greater than 7 (even > though 8 should work). For example, comedycentral.com tells me to go Ahh. Sounds like a plan is to hold of client-side Flash Player 8 updates for a while then... probably for a while after official release too - esp. as Linux versions of the player always lag a bit anyway. -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer

I have not read the information yet, but wonder if anything has changed in regards to licensing?  I find it silly that I must pay for two licenses for each developer that happens to work part-time on a notebook and part-time on a desktop computer.  I thought the world was moving to a check-out system? So you could have say 5 licenses and 5 users working at any given time, even if you have dozens of authorized users. Constanty "Connie" DeCinko III Web Architect, Webmaster, Web Developer Lone Jet Enterprises Glendale, Arizona www.LoneJet.com

Connie, Actually I believe the license did allow for two installations of Studio, as long as both installations were not running simultaneously, just for your type of situation. Cutter Connie DeCinko wrote:

Flash player? You can get it now...but still beta. http://www.macromedia.com/software/flashplayer/public_beta/ Massimo Foti wrote: > http://www.macromedia.com/software/studio/productinfo/faq/#item-1-5 any idea when the player will be ready to download? will it help cfforms "go fast" too?

Nope - Flash player 8 works great for me in Firefox. Jason Merrill   |   E-Learning Solutions   |  icfconsulting.com NOTICE: This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of this e-mail by you is prohibited.

I had that problem with FF and Flash.  When I upgraded from Beta to FF 1.0, Flash suddenly stopped working, despite my attempts to reinstall. Ended up totally removing FF and it's profile folders and reinstalling the browser. Probably not what you wanted to hear, though. Matt Osbun Web Developer Health Systems, International I clicked on this link http://www.macromedia.com/software/studio/experience/ and upgraded firefox to the flash player 8. Now Flash doesn't work at all in firefox. F'ing great. Anyone else have this problem?

Crap. I really can't afford the downtime either. On 8/8/05, Matt Osbun <mosbun@us-icc.com> wrote:

>>doesn't really look worth the upgrade cost ... Are you insane?  $399 for Dreamweaver 8, Fireworks 8, Flash Professional 8, Contribute 3, Flashpaper 2?  $399 is a STEAL.   Jason Merrill   |   E-Learning Solutions   |  icfconsulting.com NOTICE: This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of this e-mail by you is prohibited.

On Monday 08 August 2005 15:58, Merrill, Jason wrote: > >>doesn't really look worth the upgrade cost ... > Are you insane?  $399 for Dreamweaver 8, Yeah, but what new features are their that you need ? None by the looks of it... -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer

Here's a brief overview of the new features: http://www.macromedia.com/software/dreamweaver/productinfo/features/ Some developer related things are: - Background file transfer - Coding toolbar including comment/uncomment - Code collapse - Compare files. - Support of PHP5 - Updated reference material for XML, XSLT and XPATH. Presumeably they'll have trial versions and you can see if the new features work for you or not. --- Kevin Graeme Cooperative Extension Technology Services University of Wisconsin-Extension

Another excuse to give CFEclipse a try. Constanty "Connie" DeCinko III Web Architect, Webmaster, Web Developer Lone Jet Enterprises Glendale, Arizona www.LoneJet.com On Monday 08 August 2005 15:58, Merrill, Jason wrote: > >>doesn't really look worth the upgrade cost ... > Are you insane?  $399 for Dreamweaver 8, Yeah, but what new features are their that you need ? None by the looks of it... -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer

On 8/8/05, Merrill, Jason <JMerrill@icfconsulting.com> wrote: I can't see it offering me $399 worth - and I bet it'll be a lot more in the UK (where I am). Macromedia's $/£ exchange rate is appalling. And that's the upgrade cost, not the cost of the suite new. -- mac jordan home: www.kestrel.org <http://www.kestrel.org> work: www.webhorus.net <http://www.webhorus.net> them: www.jordan-cats.org <http://www.jordan-cats.org>

Sure, maybe if all you do is Coldfusion, but I'm surprised you don't like some of the new features of Dreamweaver at least.  Maybe its not for you then.  Me, I use all the products in the studio almost daily and the new features are really fantastic from my point of view. Jason Merrill   |   E-Learning Solutions   |  icfconsulting.com

>>And that's the >>upgrade cost, not the cost of the suite new. Right - but you said, "not really worth the UPGRADE cost..." If you think $399 is a lot to pay for a software suite upgrade, you might be in the wrong business.   Jason Merrill   |   E-Learning Solutions   |  icfconsulting.com

I think one of the off putting things is that you get better performance and stability from Eclipse (which is slowly eating up the DW market) Sure, maybe if all you do is Coldfusion, but I'm surprised you don't like some of the new features of Dreamweaver at least.  Maybe its not for you then.  Me, I use all the products in the studio almost daily and the new features are really fantastic from my point of view. Jason Merrill   |   E-Learning Solutions   |  icfconsulting.com

A few random, very personal, opinions: - CF developers that aren't already using DW 2004 will hardly change their minds after trying DW 8. - To current DW 2004 users the upgrade to DW 8 has more than a few interesting things to offer. - DW remains unsuited for non-trivial CFML development. The upcoming DW 8 isn't going to change this. ---------------------------- Massimo Foti Tools for ColdFusion and Dreamweaver developers: http://www.massimocorner.com ----------------------------

I'd like to see the data that supports this statement. You know 99.9% of all statistics are made up on the spot. -Adam On 8/8/05, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) <Neil.Robertson-Ravo@csd.reedexpo.com> wrote: > I think one of the off putting things is that you get better performance and > stability from Eclipse (which is slowly eating up the DW market)

Performance of what?  The development tool???? I don't see what you're getting at.   Jason Merrill   |   E-Learning Solutions   |  icfconsulting.com >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:Neil.Robertson-Ravo@csd.reedexpo.com] performance and and