FAQ?

Hi all, Is there a place to get stuff settled (and don't say the cf-talk search function), stuff like what is the best wysiwyg editor (FCK, HTMLArea, TinyMCE, etc.), what kind of encryption to use (PGP, GPG), what mailserver works best with CF, what FTP server, any other unsettled issues? And all that geared towards coldfusion. Perhaps a place were users can vote, and add explanations as to why they choose A over B. If there's not such a place, is there any interest in it? Mingo.

I don't know of anything yet, but I'd be interested in it. On 7/12/06, Mingo Hagen <mhagen@e-line.ws> wrote: -- CFAJAX docs and other useful articles: http://jr-holmes.coldfusionjournal.com/

Not being stupid but coulnt HoF add a link to the signature of an email that when something is an answer or a good FAQ, it can be clicked and it then adds it to a page with FAQ's? All you would need to add is the Question and a link to the conversation? MD On 7/12/06, James Holmes <james.holmes@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Mark (and Tom), > Not being stupid but coulnt HoF add a link to the signature of an email that > when something is an answer or a good FAQ, it can be clicked and it then > adds it to a page with FAQ's? All you would need to add is the Question and > a link to the conversation? That would have my preference as well. And in response to Tom, I know there is no such thing as _the_ best, and that a lot has to do with your needs and skills, but I would at least like to see how many people back one solution and it might settle some of the recurring issues on this mailing list (like the framework question and the ajaxcfc vs cfajax vs the rest.) It won't take away the question of which is best, but this way you can at least see what's used most. And for the less used options a comment like structure could be used where users can post there good or bad experiences with it. Some ideas: Frameworks:     - Fusebox (1,2,3,4,5)     - Mach II     - ModelGlue     - Roll-your-own     - More? Editors:     - CFStudio     - Homesite+     - Dreamweaver     - CFEclipse     - Vi     - etc. HTML Editors:     - FCKEditor     - HTMLArea     - TinyMCE     - Ektron     - More? Ajax Frameworks     - AjaxCFC     - CFAjax     - JSMX     - Spry     - Roll-your-own     - more Other unsettled issues (probably a lot)? Please post yours. Mingo.

> stuff like what is the best wysiwyg editor (FCK, HTMLArea, > TinyMCE, etc.), There is no such thing as 'best'. There is 'most suited to whatever your needs are'. > what kind of encryption to use (PGP, GPG), Technically, those are both programs with implement a particular standard of a particular type of encryption (the OpenPGP standard for public-key encryption) :-} > mailserver works best with CF, what FTP server, any other unsettled Again, your best is not my best. I still swear by Sendmail, though almost everyone else is I know is on Postfix, for instance. But, I take your point, that somewhere where 'How do I use gpg' or 'what HTML WYSIWYG editors work well with CF' would be useful. -- Tom Chiverton **************************************************** This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF.  A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged.  If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents.  If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com.

Hi Tom, > But, I take your point, that somewhere where 'How do I use gpg' or 'what HTML > WYSIWYG editors work well with CF' would be useful. I wasn't looking for a how-to-implement-site, but more a what-is-the-general-consensus site. A place where all the options are laid out for you given a certain problem, with stats next to it as to who uses what the most. Mingo.

While they don't say "best", there is cffaq.com from Ben Forta and www.coldfusioncookbook.com from myself and Jeremy Petersen. On 7/12/06, Mingo Hagen <mhagen@e-line.ws> wrote:

Raymond Camden wrote: > While they don't say "best", there is cffaq.com from Ben Forta and > www.coldfusioncookbook.com from myself and Jeremy Petersen. >   Well... this is almost exactly what i meant (I need to google better) I do miss some stuff like I mentioned in my other mails, more geared towards different solutions to one problem and perhaps you could add a function (like on imdb.com) where users can say 'this tip was useful to me'. Mingo.

Speaking just for myself (www.coldfusioncookbook.com), my philosophy behind the site is that every answer is the best. Now - I know that sounds egotistical. What I meant is, like CFLib, we try to publish what we consider best practice 100% of the time. Obviously I'm no brainiac.What I'm trying to get through is that what you see on the cookbook site would be considered best practice, at least by myself, Jeremy, and the other authors. (And again, I know the sites aren't perfect.) The cookbook site seems to almost be in stealth mode.We have over 100 entries, all available via PDF, so the content is growing, but the traffic is still a bit light. Hopefully these posts will help drive some traffic to the site. :) On 7/12/06, Mingo Hagen <mhagen@e-line.ws> wrote:

I try all the time to convince my clients that while being on the Internet on a website is a must, it's more important for marketing to be in people's inboxes. Why not set up a "Tip of the Day" (or "Tip of the Week") and deliver it to subscriber's inboxes, where they can then save the tips to archives...searchable on their own systems. Also, when new tips are added, automatic email notice goes out to all subscribers with information about the tip. Why wait for them to go to the site?  Take the material to them...you're traffic will pick up a lot, I'll wager, too... Rick Speaking just for myself (www.coldfusioncookbook.com), my philosophy behind the site is that every answer is the best. Now - I know that sounds egotistical. What I meant is, like CFLib, we try to publish what we consider best practice 100% of the time. Obviously I'm no brainiac.What I'm trying to get through is that what you see on the cookbook site would be considered best practice, at least by myself, Jeremy, and the other authors. (And again, I know the sites aren't perfect.) The cookbook site seems to almost be in stealth mode.We have over 100 entries, all available via PDF, so the content is growing, but the traffic is still a bit light. Hopefully these posts will help drive some traffic to the site. :) On 7/12/06, Mingo Hagen <mhagen@e-line.ws> wrote: me'. > > Mingo. > > >

I've considered a Subscribe mode for people who want to get informed on each entry. Since the site has an RSS feed I figured it wasn't quite as critical. But it would be nice to add email notification. On 7/12/06, Rick Faircloth <Rick@whitestonemedia.com> wrote:

RSS is fine...but I find that I don't use them that much even when I've subscribed...it's just something else I have to check.  I prefer all the information I need to consolidate in my inbox... Rick I've considered a Subscribe mode for people who want to get informed on each entry. Since the site has an RSS feed I figured it wasn't quite as critical. But it would be nice to add email notification. On 7/12/06, Rick Faircloth <Rick@whitestonemedia.com> wrote:

I don't know what Email client you use, but I know that Thunderbird will check RSS feeds.  Then you /could/ have the new items come to your inbox, so to speak.  :) This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. A1.

I'm using the Office 2007 Beta 2 and it's got RSS folders built right into Outlook. The RSS folders are still just one more place I have to plow through to get info. I'd rather it come to my inbox. I wish there was some way to receive an email which was formatted in a certain way with information concerning, say, CF, was I had a reader that would take the Title, Summary, Details, Category, Code, CF Version and whatever else would be helpful and pull it into a database about CF for me. That way, all the sources of information that I subscribe to would simply be parsed and loaded into my CF knowledgebase according to my needs. Perhaps a standard could be developed for content for such emails and we could all use the repository code on our systems and developers could send out coding tips, examples, working code, etc. Then we all just automatically start building a personal knowledgebase to draw up and customize according to our coding style, version, etc. There's got to be a better way to share info, besides asking questions over and over, searching Google, searching the various CF sites, or the House of Fusion archives. It's just short of ridiculous that we who build content management systems for others, haven't (or can't?) up with a standardized CMS system for our community. Rick I don't know what Email client you use, but I know that Thunderbird will check RSS feeds.  Then you /could/ have the new items come to your inbox, so to speak.  :)

Without trying to harp on about it, if the "Add to FAQ" link worked   in the way you described with CF version, Category, summary, etc as   extra fields it would do the same job. I dont know what Michael thinks about this (its his system after   all :)) but I think that should be fairly easily implementable. Maybe   some good karma points for the users that add more to the FAQ and get   lots of "nudges" (we cant call them diggs, so nudges or HoFs?... hold   on.. I dont want to be giving the David Hoff to anything!!!) Just another jet-lagged idea brought to you by MD On 12 Jul 2006, at 19:42, Rick Faircloth wrote:

Wow, that sounds like exactly what my custom filters do for me now. I've had them set up for years, adding and adjusting as I go, and have a few years worth of email saved off from CF-Talk, CFCDev, FlashCoders, etc., all in neat folders by category. I've had to switch boxes a few times, but I've just copied over the profile from my Application Data folder, put it on my new system, and voila, there they all were. But you can do those kind of things pretty easily with a real email program, like Thunderbird....;) Cutter ______________ http://blog.cutterscrossing.com Rick Faircloth wrote:

I'm sure I can set up filters to do the same thing in Outlook 2007, but I'm talking about something that is more standardized in content (e.g. fields that match database fields) and not just stored in the original email. I would like to parse the email content and create a data store that I can manipulate as I please. You're just saving email into various folders, right?  Can you search the email that you save for various keywords and have it return subject lines that you can then click and recall the email?  I would guess if you can that you'd still have to parse through a lot of email before finding what you're looking for, especially since you're not manually parsing the information which would allow you to throw out anything not useful. Am I missing some important benefits to how you're doing it or do you think it could be done better than with email filters? Rick Wow, that sounds like exactly what my custom filters do for me now. I've had them set up for years, adding and adjusting as I go, and have a few years worth of email saved off from CF-Talk, CFCDev, FlashCoders, etc., all in neat folders by category. I've had to switch boxes a few times, but I've just copied over the profile from my Application Data folder, put it on my new system, and voila, there they all were. But you can do those kind of things pretty easily with a real email program, like Thunderbird....;) Cutter ______________ http://blog.cutterscrossing.com Rick Faircloth wrote:

No, Rick, I do think that a site of some kind is a great idea for this. But the initial post brought up how great it would be if all of these emails could do this and that, and I've been doing it for years. Yes, I can search in the way you mentioned, and sure, I've hand parsed through a lot of it over the years, tossing the trash and off-kilter OT. But the filters for the site could be constructed in a similar manner (and allow cross-referencing), covering a large portion of the work. Someone's eyes might still have to do the final filter for pertinent content. Cutter ______________ http://blog.cutterscrossing.com

Is it possible for CF to parse incoming email by content in the email? Rick No, Rick, I do think that a site of some kind is a great idea for this. But the initial post brought up how great it would be if all of these emails could do this and that, and I've been doing it for years. Yes, I can search in the way you mentioned, and sure, I've hand parsed through a lot of it over the years, tossing the trash and off-kilter OT. But the filters for the site could be constructed in a similar manner (and allow cross-referencing), covering a large portion of the work. Someone's eyes might still have to do the final filter for pertinent content. Cutter ______________ http://blog.cutterscrossing.com

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I think another cool thing to point out about the ColdFusion Cookbook is that you don't have to wait for Ray or Jeremy to speak Ex Cathedra about the best practices.  Anyone can submit a page for consideration.   Which is really cool, in my opinion, yours may vary. Thanks for it, Ray. Terrence Ryan Senior Systems Programmer Wharton Computing and Information Technology    E-mail:    tpryan@wharton.upenn.edu Speaking just for myself (www.coldfusioncookbook.com), my philosophy behind the site is that every answer is the best. Now - I know that sounds egotistical. What I meant is, like CFLib, we try to publish what we consider best practice 100% of the time. Obviously I'm no brainiac.What I'm trying to get through is that what you see on the cookbook site would be considered best practice, at least by myself, Jeremy, and the other authors. (And again, I know the sites aren't perfect.) The cookbook site seems to almost be in stealth mode.We have over 100 entries, all available via PDF, so the content is growing, but the traffic is still a bit light. Hopefully these posts will help drive some traffic to the site. :) On 7/12/06, Mingo Hagen <mhagen@e-line.ws> wrote: to me'. > > Mingo. > > >

Your site addresses the 'how do i do this or that' question. What I want is a place where I can go to answer the 'what tools are there for my problem'. In order to find out what the _right_ tools are for a certain job, you need to at least know _which_ tools there are and to help you find out if they fit your job it helps to read about what other coldfusion programmers' experience has been with them. Is that a possible extension to the cfcookbook project, a library of cf-related tools with user experiences? Mingo. ps. I'm promoting your site to my (not too many) coworkers. Raymond Camden wrote:

Such a document/site could be useful. Certainly there are many choices for IDEs for example (of course only CFE makes sense), and someone could compare/contract them. The same applies for database editors and source control management programs. As for where and what that resource would be - I'm not sure. It could be useful blog entries obviously. You also have the ACME guide by Stephen Collins. It doesn't offer alternatives, but does cover the entire gamut of stuff you would need for CF development. I can't recommend it enough: http://www.stephencollins.org/acme/ On 7/12/06, Mingo Hagen <mhagen@e-line.ws> wrote: > Your site addresses the 'how do i do this or that' question. What I want > is a place where I can go to answer the 'what tools are there for my > problem'. -- =========================================================================== Raymond Camden, Vice President of Technology for roundpeg Email    : jedimaster@roundpeg.com Blog     : ray.camdenfamily.com AOL IM   : cfjedimaster "My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda

cfjedimaster wrote: > (of course only CFE makes sense) *ducks behind the bar*

What I find most helpful when buying consumer electronics has always been to dig up a copy Consumer Reports. They always have a table that lists the competing products with a side by side comparison feature sets or even when the feature I need even exists or not. Similarly when choosing with CF tool to use (ie CFAJAX, AJAXCFC, JSMX etc...)., I often use the same approach- but doing the side by side list on my own. After that, my first criteria in the decision process has always been to jump into the HoF archives, and know who is using what (ie what most CF gods use, and you know who you are  ;-)) and what the general consensus and bias are from the CF Community at large.  Consensus does weigh-in quite a bit.  I expect no "best" at something, but rather what has already been proven in a given real world scenario. Once I have narrowed into the tool that ranks high on my list, only then does FAQs, implementation How-to's, and Cookbooks become a big part of the decision process. It would definitely be helpful if there is a place for that side-by-side list. My 2 cents. Michael

There are MANY resources for CF out there, but I think you'll have a hard time finding any such repository. I say this because all of your items require opinions for answers. If folks could post "why", then you just end up with a mess instead of what you seem to be aiming for..."in this situation use this" my 2 cents Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: bryan@electricedgesystems.com web: www.electricedgesystems.com

> There are MANY resources for CF out there, but I think you'll I think this is a very good idea for a new community resource someone should build.  I think the idea of allowing people to rate stuff would help take care of the 'mess' you mentioned.  Similar to Amazon.com, you could look at the frameworks section, for example, and see a star rating for each item.  You could also see user comments sorted by highest rating (people could rate the comments).  If the site had a blog attached to it, the maintainer could keep people informed about the site, which would also help keep it current and accurate.  Especially if the blog is aggregated by feed-squirrel, mxna, and fullasagoog. --------------- This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. A1.

I still think the ability to mark a thread as a good solution to something and add a title (like digg) would help. Something along the lines of clicking on the signature of one post, adding the title "Which WYSIWYG editors should I use?" and posting it to the FAQ, it would would check to see if that thread is in the FAQ already, warn you, let you know what title it went under (so that if the thread solves multiple problems it can have another title) and allow you to add a new title or cancel. The FAQ entries can then just have something like digg uses which people that have used the FAQ can vote by saying if it was useful and answered the question. Not hard to set up I would guess, but I know Michael has the time, but this would be a useful feature and limit the number of "search for it bozo"  and replace it with "look in the FAQ bozo" remarks. (ok, you dont need to add bozo, you could add whatever remark you want) MD On 7/12/06, Munson, Jacob <JMunson@idahopower.com> wrote: -- Mark Drew http://www.markdrew.co.uk/blog/

Yeah, that does sound like a good idea.  Especially if this new FAQ were publicly available, so that people that don't want to drink from the firehose (i.e., subscribe to cf-talk) can still access it.  :) This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. A1.

Nice analogy ;) It would also limit the amount of times the same discussion occurs (or is it recurs), although it is fun to watch the frameworkswar. Munson, Jacob wrote: > Yeah, that does sound like a good idea.  Especially if this new FAQ were > publicly available, so that people that don't want to drink from the > firehose (i.e., subscribe to cf-talk) can still access it.  :) >  

This is obviously a use of the word "fun" of which I was not previously aware :-) On 7/13/06, Mingo Hagen <mhagen@e-linewebsolutions.nl> wrote: > It would also limit the amount of times the same discussion occurs (or > is it recurs), although it is fun to watch the frameworkswar. -- CFAJAX docs and other useful articles: http://jr-holmes.coldfusionjournal.com/

Well, I'd be willing to have a crack at this, if no-one else is really keen. On 7/13/06, Munson, Jacob <JMunson@idahopower.com> wrote:

James Holmes wrote: > Well, I'd be willing to have a crack at this, if no-one else is really keen. > >   That's great! We could of course make it a community project, open source and all... What would be a good place to start? a forum, a blog, a custom design?

The first thing to do is for people to say what they need (i.e. gather requirements for specifications). I was going to blog it but it appears my blog evaporated into the "this domain name has expired" black hole... (hopefully I can use search engine caches to get my old articles) Time to bite the bullet and put BlogCFC on my site, I guess. Once that's done I'll blog it and people can comment there to suggest specs. Sound good? On 7/13/06, Mingo Hagen <mhagen@e-line.ws> wrote:

James Holmes wrote: > Sound good? Sounds good to me! see you on your blog (wherever that will be ;) ) Mingo.

OK, no blog for now since BlogCFC requires a mapping and I'm on shared hosting. I'll work it out later. However, we can use the test galleon forum I setup a while ago: http://www.bifrost.com.au/forums/threads.cfm?forumid=67D7CB0E-F900-0235-18BAD35904E56A06 Post away. On 7/13/06, Mingo Hagen <mhagen@e-line.ws> wrote:

I'm using BlogCFC on a shared host, it doesn't require a mapping.  You just have to put the folders/files in the right spots (at least that's how v. 4 worked, I haven't upgraded to 5 yet). > -----Original Message----- > From: James Holmes [mailto:james.holmes@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 7:54 AM > > OK, no blog for now since BlogCFC requires a mapping and I'm on shared > hosting. I'll work it out later. This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. A1.

5 is the same. No mappings required. Most of my apps do not require mappings, and as I upgrade them, I try to remove that dependancy. FYI, a major new release of BlogCFC will be released this weekend. On 7/13/06, Munson, Jacob <JMunson@idahopower.com> wrote:

> From: Raymond Camden > > FYI, a major new release of BlogCFC will be released this weekend. Good to hear.  I'm planning on upgrading to 5.1 when it's released. ------------ This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. A1.

Major update?! darn it, just installed the 5-0 version... oh well, that way I have something to do over the weekend... Mingo. Munson, Jacob wrote:

I'll rephrase: If I want the shared stuff (i.e. the entire org.* folder tree) in a single location on the site I need a mapping. Of course this can all be duplicated under the main app directory, which I just did. The alternative of putting these things in the web root only works if there is no "/" mapping on the server. HMS must mave just installed a "/" mapping on my server, because my old MG demo install and the first install of BlogCFC both broke. Reorganising the blog folders made that work so far. On 7/14/06, Raymond Camden <rcamden@gmail.com> wrote:

If they have put a / mapping on the server then they will be getting a deluge of complaints as this will break a lot of other peoples sites too. Everyone that uses / to reference the root of their site in their cfincludes etc. Snake I'll rephrase: If I want the shared stuff (i.e. the entire org.* folder tree) in a single location on the site I need a mapping. Of course this can all be duplicated under the main app directory, which I just did. The alternative of putting these things in the web root only works if there is no "/" mapping on the server. HMS must mave just installed a "/" mapping on my server, because my old MG demo install and the first install of BlogCFC both broke. Reorganising the blog folders made that work so far. On 7/14/06, Raymond Camden <rcamden@gmail.com> wrote: confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. A1.

Well, my site broke and I made no changes. For example: http://www.bifrost.com.au/modelgluesamples/nameuppercaser/ The MG files are in the site root. On 7/14/06, Snake <snake.lists@snakepit.net> wrote:

OK, I got BlogCFC working after a session of hacking: http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/?mode=entry&entry=6A682CE1-BD02-01ED-7032AD32BDC536CA On 7/13/06, James Holmes <james.holmes@gmail.com> wrote:

And I forgot to mention I got the SES URLs working, so here is the blog post on the Best Solutions app thing: http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/index.cfm/2006/7/14/The-CF-Best-Solutions-Comparison-App Comments now work too - the CAPTCHA was stuffing up because of file permissions. If you have a requirement that you want to see in the app, please post a comment in the blog entry. Also feel free to post if you have an idea for a name, as "The CF Best Solutions App Thingy" won't look good in a web design :-) Perhaps just something like "Rated CF Solutions" or similar? On 7/14/06, James Holmes <james.holmes@gmail.com> wrote:

> if you have an idea for a name, as "The CF Best Solutions App Thingy" > won't look good in a web design :-) Perhaps just something like "Rated > CF Solutions" or similar? cfSolutions ? Coldfusion Community Conclusion (or C3 for short) ? -- Tom Chiverton **************************************************** This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF.  A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged.  If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents.  If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com.

Ooh, the second one is really catchy. It would go well hosted at cffaq.com (e.g. "How do I get a text editor in my CF - {answer here}... for the Coldfusion Community Conclusion on which ones to use, click here"). Sounds good. On 7/14/06, Tom Chiverton <tom.chiverton@halliwells.com> wrote:

Tom Chiverton wrote: I like it: C3! It's got my vote... But, shouldn't you post that on the blog as a comment :) Mingo.

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I considered working on it, but no one wants it built in CF 4.5!  :o) I've got CF7 installed on XP and Apache, but haven't had time to mess around with it... Rick Well, I'd be willing to have a crack at this, if no-one else is really keen. On 7/13/06, Munson, Jacob <JMunson@idahopower.com> wrote: fullasagoog. > > > --------------- > > This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. A1. > > > >

Have you considered using a group-wide wiki for this?  The CSS list that I read has a great wiki site that allows users to compile frequently used formats, different hacks, etc.  Check it out for ideas: http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Mingo Hagen wrote:

I love HOF, and am thankful to the Dinowitz's and all those who contribute. However, I have never found the search functionality of the site to be very helpful.  I think this idea would make the site much friendlier for finding the answer to whatever it is you are looking for. >> I still think the ability to mark a thread as a good solution to something and add a title (like digg) would help. Something along the lines of clicking on the signature of one post, adding the title "Which WYSIWYG editors should I use?" and posting it to the FAQ, it would would check to see if that thread is in the FAQ already, warn you, let you know what title it went under (so that if the thread solves multiple problems it can have another title) and allow you to add a new title or cancel. The FAQ entries can then just have something like digg uses which people that have used the FAQ can vote by saying if it was useful and answered the question. Not hard to set up I would guess, but I know Michael has the time, but this would be a useful feature and limit the number of "search for it bozo" and replace it with "look in the FAQ bozo" remarks. (ok, you dont need to add bozo, you could add whatever remark you want) MD Confidentiality Notice:  This message including any attachments is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete any copies of this message.

I know I'd sign up for notification for when new tips are added.  I know I don't check back that often, only when a need arises and I'm looking for a solution. My 2 cents, Rich I've considered a Subscribe mode for people who want to get informed on each entry. Since the site has an RSS feed I figured it wasn't quite as critical. But it would be nice to add email notification. On 7/12/06, Rick Faircloth <Rick@whitestonemedia.com> wrote: > I try all the time to convince my clients that while being on the Internet > on a website is a must, it's more important for marketing to be in people's > inboxes. > > Why not set up a "Tip of the Day" (or "Tip of the Week") and deliver it to them...you're > traffic will > pick up a lot, I'll wager, too... > > Rick

Yeah, but it would technically not be incoming per se, the email would have already arrived and you would be parsing it's content via CFPOP after your SMTP server has reveived it. "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540.  It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged.  It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s).  If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful.  If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910.  The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com No, Rick, I do think that a site of some kind is a great idea for this. But the initial post brought up how great it would be if all of these emails could do this and that, and I've been doing it for years. Yes, I can search in the way you mentioned, and sure, I've hand parsed through a lot of it over the years, tossing the trash and off-kilter OT. But the filters for the site could be constructed in a similar manner (and allow cross-referencing), covering a large portion of the work. Someone's eyes might still have to do the final filter for pertinent content. Cutter ______________ http://blog.cutterscrossing.com

Ok...the "incoming" aspect was not really important...I should have just said "new" mail.  I just want to figure out how to make use the content that comes in email for my purposes, without just having it filtered into other email boxes.  But I want it done automatically. I'll check into CFPOP... Thanks, Neil. Rick Yeah, but it would technically not be incoming per se, the email would have already arrived and you would be parsing it's content via CFPOP after your SMTP server has reveived it. "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540.  It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged.  It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s).  If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful.  If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910.  The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com No, Rick, I do think that a site of some kind is a great idea for this. But the initial post brought up how great it would be if all of these emails could do this and that, and I've been doing it for years. Yes, I can search in the way you mentioned, and sure, I've hand parsed through a lot of it over the years, tossing the trash and off-kilter OT. But the filters for the site could be constructed in a similar manner (and allow cross-referencing), covering a large portion of the work. Someone's eyes might still have to do the final filter for pertinent content. Cutter ______________ http://blog.cutterscrossing.com