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what a nice night to code to these tunes... Played @  Song Title 20:48:27  Bob Marley - Judge Not  Current Song 20:45:14  Finley Quaye - Your Love Gets Sweeter 20:41:37  Incubus - Incubus - Wish You Were Here 20:40:25  OutKast - OutKast - Hold On, Be Strong 20:38:32  311 - Loco 20:33:26  Dr. Dre/Nate Dogg/Snoop Dogg/That Nigga Daz/Warren G - Deeez Nuuuts 20:31:44  Van Halen - Doin' Time [Instrumental] 20:28:10  O Brother, Where Art Thou - Keep On The Sunny Side 20:21:20  OutKast - 13th Floor/Growing Old 20:17:11  Pink Floyd - Track 3 i love this shoutcast fucking thing! cool as shit -- ...tony Tony Weeg tonyweeg [at] gmail [dot] com

I think that I'll jump onto your 'cast...good lineup. Tony wrote:

My only concern (as pointed out by others) is what will happen when the evil MoFo's from the RIAA start poking their heads in here.

hmmm good question sire! On 11/15/05, Michael Dinowitz <mdinowit@houseoffusion.com> wrote: > My only concern (as pointed out by others) is what will happen when the evil MoFo's from the RIAA start poking their heads in here. > >

well!... of course you own all that music, right? /me looks innocent On 11/15/05, Tony <tonyweeg@gmail.com> wrote:

i own A LOT of it. but i do not have the CD's of ALL of them to prove. nor do i have ANY records of downloading any of it, right? i mean, the last time i downloaded anything was like 4 years ago, the rest is bought and ituned or cd'd tw On 11/16/05, Dana <dana.tierney@gmail.com> wrote:

so, you can still do the station, you just need to tweak the playlist algorithm to comply? On 11/15/05, Tony <tonyweeg@gmail.com> wrote:

im going back up with it. private, for friends only, its my music that i bought, and i want to listen to it at work.  why cant i? tw On 11/16/05, Dana <dana.tierney@gmail.com> wrote:

so tell me. if i: 1. bought a CD 2. bought a song/album on iTunes 3. was given the CD as a gift 4. obtained through any sale, a CD or music of any kind do i 1. own it? 2. own a license to it? am i 1. free to play on my stereo 2. free to play on my stereo loud enough so that the neighbors can hear, even if they didnt buy it? 3. free to play it on my shoutcast so that some friends who i would normally lend a cd to anyway can listen? just wondering. oh, and fuck the RIAA On 11/16/05, Tony <tonyweeg@gmail.com> wrote:

I think you can play it to friends and/or lend it. I am not sure about the fee that was mentioned. Would probably depend on whether what you are doing meets the definition of webcasting. I suspect not if it is not public but I am not a lawyer. Dana On 11/16/05, Tony <tonyweeg@gmail.com> wrote:

I don't think you can lend it to your friends. You could sell it to them and buy it back when there done. I think an IOU is vaild :) On 11/16/05, Tony wrote:

really? Why not? I can lend a book, a sweater or a floppy disk to a friend. I suppose you are going to say it's like software, and you can't use it without installing it... Dana On 11/16/05, Sam <sammycode@gmail.com> wrote:

You can lend the physical media to a friend, but you cannot make a copy for yourself (tape, mp3, backup cd) and then lend it to a friend (keeping one for yourself). And the friend cannot make a copy while they are borrowing it. Of course, I have a similar problem. A lot of my CDs are marked with "not for resale", even though I bought them used at record stores (like Strawberries) and at garage sales. I am not sure exactly what the legal status of those is. On 11/16/05, Dana <dana.tierney@gmail.com> wrote: > really? Why not? I can lend a book, a sweater or a floppy disk to a friend. > I suppose you are going to say it's like software, and you can't use it > without installing it... >  Dana

You can lend the original purchased version, you cannot lend a burned copy. You own the CD but the performance rights remain with the label. This is actually really complicated legally, I'll see if I can get a better explanation.. Scott A. Stewart ColdFusion Developer GNSI 11820 Parklawn Dr Rockville, MD 20852 (301) 770-9610   really? Why not? I can lend a book, a sweater or a floppy disk to a friend. I suppose you are going to say it's like software, and you can't use it without installing it... Dana On 11/16/05, Sam <sammycode@gmail.com> wrote:

this is what happens :( Complying with copyright laws     Musical compositions and sound recordings are creative works that are protected by the copyright laws of the United States (title 17, U.S. Code) and other countries. Under U.S. law, the owner of a copyright has the exclusive right to (and to authorize others to) reproduce the work, use parts of the work in a new creation, distribute the work in whole or in part, and to publicly display or perform the work (including on web pages and through webcasting). With few exceptions, it is illegal to reproduce, distribute or broadcast a sound recording without the permission of the copyright owner. It is your responsibility to comply with the copyright laws when you become a webcaster.     There have been recent amendments to the copyright law regarding webcasting of sound recordings. These new provisions allow webcasting under the terms of a statutory license, as a way to help webcasters get permission without having to go to each sound recording's owner. The statutory license, however, has strict requirements that you must follow. Some of these requirements include the payment of license fees, limitations on the number of songs from the same album or artist that may be played in a three hour period (called the sound recording performance complement); a prohibition on publishing advance playlists; and a requirement to identify the song, artist and album on the website. There are other requirements as well. The Recording Industry Association of America provides quite a bit of information on copyright law as it applies to webcasting, and both ASCAP and BMI have created license agreements that they are willing to grant to webcasters that they believe conform to the provisions of the new copyright rules for webcasting. For additional information on the statutory license and other aspects of webcasting, please visit the following sites:         * The U.S. Copyright Office         * The Recording Industry Association of America - particularly http://www.riaa.com/weblic/weblic.htm         * ASCAP - particularly http://www.ascap.com/weblicense/webintro.html         * BMI - particularly http://www.bmi.com/iama/webcaster/index.asp     If you are uncertain about what you can and cannot do, we suggest you check with the copyright owner or the owner's representatives (such as through the organizations above), or consult a lawyer. and with that WFKNRD is down :( fuck. On 11/16/05, Tony <tonyweeg@gmail.com> wrote: