Political Hypocrisy again - Senator admits gayness Voted against gay rights for 14 years

http://www.stumbleupon.com/su/AXgPC7/www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=124462513&ft=1&f=1014/r:t Riiiight. So a gay man votes against gay rights for 14 years. Why? Because his voting base would not have supported him otherwise. I mean..how hypocritical can you get? Why have we setup politics to be an arena where you must lie and cheat to get by? It's the case worldwide. (though this ZOMG I'm GAY! thing seems to happen mostly in the US...).

yeah this has been in the news here. I think you have to have been in Bakersfield to understand. It really belongs in West Texas and is mad that it has to associate with San Francisco ;) not that I am excusing anything. The homophobia that drives this, dunno how that gets cured, but my question is how you can be from there, be gay, and go into politics without foreseeing some sort of problem, is my question. ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more ----- ZOMG a  "Manhattan Madam," runs for governor... New York Attorney General Andrew Cuomo likely will win the nomination for Democratic candidate for governor. He is more popular than any other New York officeholder, with an approval rating of 67 percent last week, according to a Marist poll. Although, in a tidy completion of the political circle, Cuomo will have some competition from the "Manhattan Madam," Kristen Davis, who supplied Spitzer with prostitutes. Davis announced her candidacy for the governor<http://kristindavis2010.com/home>Monday. For a minimum campaign contribution of $100, supporters can "GET FOK'D," which stands for "Friend of Kristen Davis." http://kristindavis2010.com/home That's just classic!

"No, my reckless driving while drunk was not my fault. It is YOUR fault, people, for making me lie". Just a spineless politician trying to avoid the consequences of his actions by changing the subject. ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

Wow are you uninformed.  There are many countries where you can still be executed for engaging in homosexual acts, but we're barbarians right gelly? gay rights for 14 years. http://www.stumbleupon.com/su/AXgPC7/www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?s toryId=124462513&ft=1&f=1014/r:t Riiiight. So a gay man votes against gay rights for 14 years. Why? Because his voting base would not have supported him otherwise. I mean..how hypocritical can you get? Why have we setup politics to be an arena where you must lie and cheat to get by? It's the case worldwide. (though this ZOMG I'm GAY! thing seems to happen mostly in the US...).

Strawman!   Do I win "Spot the Logical Fallacy"? On Mar 8, 2010, at 3:44 PM, LRS Scout wrote: ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

How many other countries have the whole ZOMG I'm GAY! thing happening in politics? Come on..you have to admit we hear this whole "who's having sex with whom" thing from the US the most :-) Berlusconi is the closest I can recall from Italy, and that was because the guy had a string of mistresses..and he was the sugar daddy for a nubile 18 year old at her coming of age party. I think he had to go through Mistress 9 before the Italian press even began to take any notice. I mean like...there's no European or Asian version of this: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/28/outrage-documentary-activ_n_192476.html I also didn't say anything about being Barbaric...although I am sure you have a big high powered rifle somewhere in your closet and if you could you'd get an AA-12...to shoot rabbits with. (http://johnbv2.wordpress.com/2008/02/02/the-aa-12-worlds-most-powerful-shotgun/) ;-D *runs away in a zig zag fashion* On 8 March 2010 17:44, LRS Scout <lrsscout@gmail.com> wrote: > > Wow are you uninformed.  There are many countries where you can still be > executed for engaging in homosexual acts, but we're barbarians right gelly

> *runs away in a zig zag fashion* just lead your targets... ;-) -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable." - Carrie Fisher

( http://johnbv2.wordpress.com/2008/02/02/the-aa-12-worlds-most-powerful-shotgun/ ) Wow, that's really cool.

not really, typical American style of shooting, firing 20 or 30 shots where one would do. ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

I may disagree with a lot of stuff America does, but when it comes to war I'm 100% behind the idea of putting as much lead into the enemy so that as little lead as possible makes it into me. On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 9:16 PM, Larry C. Lyons <larryclyons@gmail.com>wrote: ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

I was taught that volume rarely equals marksmanship. This is very critical when you have to pack all ammo. If you look at some of the videos of Canadians and British forces in Afghanistan you'll see examples of such. You see similar videos of Americans, typically laying down a large volume of fire. I thinks that only the Special forces follow the marksmanship rule: 2 shots center of mass. ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

Well maybe if Britain shot a little more, instead of worrying about centers of mass and such....we'd still be one of their colonies :) On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 9:30 AM, Larry C. Lyons <larryclyons@gmail.com>wrote: ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

Speaking of Trinidad, and strange taboos on sex information, check out this guy's resume, and click on the Trinidad and Tabago pin. http://ow.ly/1g2nn now that's funny. Love this as a resume, btw. ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

That's very interesting. I'll pass it onto some people I know in the Ministry of Health and see what comes back. AFAIK there are several campaigns that specifically mention sex, HIV and Condom use that ran a year or so ago. On 9 March 2010 11:59, Jerry Johnson <jmiloj@gmail.com> wrote: ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

Yeah, I was really just using it as a segue to the resume, trying to hijack the thread. I would hire that guy in a second. ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

ha, that's awesome ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

YOu mean if the Americans didn't get uppity twice when Britain was taking on the rest of the world. Remember if it were not for the French navy and army, the US would have remained the 13 colonies. ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

Neither the Canadians ort British teach BRM in the manner you are stating.   The Conventional US Army (non-SF/Ranger/Airborne) doesn't shoot enough to get high accuracy, neither do conventional British or Canadian forces. The Special Operations forces in the Army, and the US Marines train to a far higher standard. Stop being snarky.  I worked with both the British and the Canadians in Afghanistan, while I was certainly impressed by individuals, as a group they are no better than we are. against gay rights for 14 years. I was taught that volume rarely equals marksmanship. This is very critical when you have to pack all ammo. If you look at some of the videos of Canadians and British forces in Afghanistan you'll see examples of such. You see similar videos of Americans, typically laying down a large volume of fire. I thinks that only the Special forces follow the marksmanship rule: 2 shots center of mass. > > I may disagree with a lot of stuff America does, but when it comes to war > I'm 100% behind the idea of putting as much lead into the enemy so that as > little lead as possible makes it into me. > > On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 9:16 PM, Larry C. Lyons <larryclyons@gmail.com>wrote: ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more ----- http://johnbv2.wordpress.com/2008/02/02/the-aa-12-worlds-most-powerful-shotg un/ ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

REally you mean like the 3rd Bat. PPCLI using aimed rounds while allied forces jsut sprayed and prayed? ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

Video, sources? against gay rights for 14 years. REally you mean like the 3rd Bat. PPCLI using aimed rounds while allied forces jsut sprayed and prayed? > > Neither the Canadians ort British teach BRM in the manner you are stating. > > The Conventional US Army (non-SF/Ranger/Airborne) doesn't shoot enough to > get high accuracy, neither do conventional British or Canadian forces. > > The Special Operations forces in the Army, and the US Marines train to a far > higher standard. > > Stop being snarky.  I worked with both the British and the Canadians in > Afghanistan, while I was certainly impressed by individuals, as a group they ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more ----- as ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more ----- http://johnbv2.wordpress.com/2008/02/02/the-aa-12-worlds-most-powerful-shotg ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

Lol Lol! Are you folks intentionally baiting? :-) On 9 March 2010 13:00, LRS Scout <lrsscout@gmail.com> wrote: > > Video, sources? >

He made a claim against the US Armed forces I'd like to see backed up.  I got out within a couple of years, he got out like 20 years ago.  I have fought in the conflict he is discussing, with the forces he is discussing. I'm calling bullshit. against gay rights for 14 years. Lol Lol! Are you folks intentionally baiting? :-) On 9 March 2010 13:00, LRS Scout <lrsscout@gmail.com> wrote: > > Video, sources? >

of course I am. I just feel like jerking people's chain today. Its another 2 pixeler day so I want to spread the love. ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

Bastard :) against gay rights for 14 years. of course I am. I just feel like jerking people's chain today. Its another 2 pixeler day so I want to spread the love. ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

Of course. On days liek this I just have to share. ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

What does "2 pixeler" mean? > Its another 2 pixeler day so I want to spread the love.

when I was doing training development, we had this one client who was never satisfied with anything. colours wrongs, buttons not in the right place etc. She always wanted the  buttons over to the left or right 1 or two pixels.  Finally we had her come in and show us exactly what was wrong. She brought in this antique laptop (64 colours and a 640 by 480 screen). opened up the training app and proceeded to measure the button positions with a ruler. When ever I have a similar day its a 2 pixeler. ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

Hahaha. That's amazing. I'm actually employed by a 2 pixeler. Wait, that's not funny... that's my life. On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 2:27 PM, Larry C. Lyons <larryclyons@gmail.com>wrote: ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

She had a ruler marked off in pixels? ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

> what was wrong. She brought in this antique laptop (64 colours and a > 640 by 480 screen). opened up the training app and proceeded to > measure the button positions with a ruler. I have worked with many designers over the years who ask me how many DPI "the web" is. -Cameron ....

On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Camer > I have worked with many designers over the years who ask me how many > DPI "the web" is. > How many holes does it take to fill the Albert Hall?

+1 on the Beatles reference. ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

> How many holes does it take to fill the Albert Hall? I was gonna ask Gel, but he told me his dixie wrecked, so I don't ask anymore. -Cameron ...

Photocopying documents for arbitration! Not fun! I is having a 2Pixeler Day!!! On 9 March 2010 15:56, Camer ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

> How many holes does it take to fill the Albert Hall? > 4,000 holes in Blackburn, Lancashire. -- With a little perseverance you can get things done Without a blind adherence that has conquered some

It's Larry's penis size measuring gauge .....but to be fair, Larry's monitor does have a pretty large dot pitch. :) /me dons my ferret proof underwear On Mar 9, 2010, at 1:16 PM, Medic wrote: ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

Google Christine Keeler. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_Keeler > > How many other countries have the whole ZOMG I'm GAY! thing happening > in politics? > Come on..you have to admit we hear this whole "who's having sex with > whom" thing from the US the most :-)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/34/CKeeler1.jpg mmmm.. oh my. I now think it is my duty to search Google Images and make comparisons with Marilyn Monroe. There goes my work tonight ;-) lol ! On 8 March 2010 20:47, Maureen <mamamaureen@gmail.com> wrote: > > Google Christine Keeler. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_Keeler

p.s. ... did you see what I did there? ^_^ *sneaks off* On 8 March 2010 21:58, Vivec <gel214th@gmail.com> wrote: ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

This is only a big story because: 1) He was drinking and driving, by the CAPITAL. 2) He was cheating on his wife and their 4 kids 3) He's gay, but has voted against every gay rights legislation that has come up THAT is why this story is interesting...not the ZOMG I'm Gay. You sure you're not the one still struggling with the "ZOMG, I'm Gay!" thing...? You seem singularly focused on it. ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

> So a gay man votes against gay rights for 14 years. > Why? The common factor between those "backwards" countries LRS Scout refers to and the US in it's repression of sexual freedom?  Religion. If someone wants to stay in the closet or be out, I don't care, that's their prerogative.  However, when you take a firm anti-gay stance like this guy, you'd better be straighter than a Chuck Norris kick to the jaw. -Cameron ...