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Santorum's outbursts - insight into what he truly believes?

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02/27/2012 05:56 PM

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2012/02/the-nausea-of-santorum.html http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2012/02/what-kind-of-catholic-is-santorum.html "I am relieved [Santorum] is at least candid. For now we can see in plain view the religious fanaticism that has destroyed one of the major parties in this country, a destruction that is perilous for any workable politics. It must be defeated - and not by electing a plastic liar and panderer like Romney. But by nominating Santorum and defeating him by such a margin that this theo-political Frankenstein, which threatens both genuine faith and civil politics, is dispatched once and for all." [Santorum] "may well believe that man cannot actually destroy the earth through such violence as global warming, for the perfectly orthodox theological reason that the earth will come to an end (or be renewed) only when Christ comes again to judge the living and the dead. In other words, global warming can?t exist because it is not in God?s providential plan: the Lord will decide when the earth expires. " This has no business in forming the laws and determining decisions for the largest - and militarily the only- superpower in the world. " There can be no absolute separation of church and state, let alone a desire to keep it so; and in their necessary interactions, the church must always prevail, or it is a violation of the First Amendment, and an attack on religious freedom. The church's teachings are also, according to theoconservatism, integral to the founding of the United States. Since constitutional rights are endowed from the Creator, and the Creator is the Judeo-Christian one, the notion of a neutral public square, embraced by liberals and those once called conservatives, is an attack on America. America is a special nation because of this unique founding on the Judeo-Christian God. It must therefore always be guided by God's will, and that will is self-evident to anyone, Catholic or Protestant, atheist or Mormon, Jew or Muslim, from natural law." Santorum's own words that the Separation of Church and State makes him want to throw up. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/26/santorum-church-and-state_n_1302246.html It will only take one of these guys to become President of the US for the whole thing to come crashing down, just as is feared (and unfortunately so far proven) with the extremists in Egypt and other parts of the world. I see this religious/racial extremism in my own country's politics as well though it is more subtle and it worries me.

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02/27/2012 06:56 PM

Sounds like James Watt all over again. Only more obnoxious and holier than thou. ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

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02/27/2012 08:02 PM

Senator Santorum scares me - more than Bachmann. I think he is just as bat-shit crazy as Bachmann, but, he actually has a shot at getting the nomination. I don't think he would win, but then again, I didn't think President Obama would either. ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

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02/27/2012 08:11 PM

I'm really hoping that that frothy mix gets the nomination. Aside from all the fun with his name and the opportunities for glitter bombing him, it would present a very clear set of differences. That said just look at the agenda he's advocating, Bans on contraception, abortion. He's stated a number of times he wants to eliminate public schooling. Seriously what is it with the current crop of Republican candidates they just keep getting more and more batsh*t crazy. Are they trying for a Carter and Mondale election? With the republicans having the wacko nominee? Even Romney is getting loonier and loonier, and he's the Republican establishment's annointed one. ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

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02/27/2012 10:03 PM

Santorum has no chance of winning. It's Romney's all of the way unless there is a brokered convention.  Even if it is brokered, Santorum is out (imagine a Jeb Bush/Sarah Palin ticket - the howls that would be heard across the country). J - Thanks to TV and for the convenience of TV, you can only be one of two kinds of human beings, either a liberal or a conservative. - Kurt Vonnegut

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02/28/2012 12:46 AM

Gingrich was in SF the other day promising $2.50 gas. On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 5:11 PM, Larry C. Lyons <larryclyons@gmail.com>wrote: ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

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02/28/2012 02:04 AM

If Gingrich knows how to get gas prices down to $2.50 a gallon he should tell us how, instead of forcing people to elect him to find out.  If he really cared about this country, he wouldn't sit silent while the people suffer.  Since he isn't explaining how he would accomplish this, I suspect it is just rhetoric and hot air. > > Gingrich was in SF the other day promising $2.50 gas.

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02/28/2012 02:51 AM

well *yeah* ... Maybe that did need to be said on this list but you didn't think I *believed* him did you?LOL I remember when he was in congress ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

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02/28/2012 09:16 AM

"If Gingrich knows how to get gas prices down to $2.50 a gallon he should tell us how, instead of forcing people to elect him to find out.  If he really cared about this country, he wouldn't sit silent while the people suffer.  Since he isn't explaining how he would accomplish this, I suspect it is just rhetoric and hot air." I don' like Gingrich.  Never had.  I will not vote for him. However, if he did spill the beans about 2.50 gas and was something that would actually work, do you really think anyone making policy would listen? J - The problem is not that people are taxed too little, the problem is that government spends too much. - Ronald Reagan

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02/28/2012 09:52 AM

I think if he got the message to the electorate and it was viable, those making policy would have no choice but to respond. > However, if he did spill the beans about 2.50 gas and was something that > would actually work, do you really think anyone making policy would listen?

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02/28/2012 09:52 AM

You missed the context. Newt had just found Jose's Mexican Food Truck, where a 2 pound bean burrito is only $2.50. Trust me, there will be plenty of gas at that price. ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

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02/28/2012 10:01 AM

About time to invent a fart collector.  Put it in the car seat and eat more beans. > > You missed the context. > > Newt had just found Jose's Mexican Food Truck, where a 2 pound bean burrito > is only $2.50. > > Trust me, there will be plenty of gas at that price.

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02/28/2012 12:29 PM

IIRC, McCain did the same thing with Bin Laden. "I know how to get him, you just have to elect me to find out," or words to that effect. ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

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03/01/2012 08:59 AM

"I think if he got the message to the electorate and it was viable, those making policy would have no choice but to respond." You have a lot more confidence in the electorate than I do.  In my opinion, they seem more impressed with sound bites than content. J - "I refuse to leave our children with a debt that they cannot repay." - Barrack Obama "We cannot simply spend as we please and defer the consequences." - Barrack Obama

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02/27/2012 08:13 PM

Just when you thought Bush/Cheney was full of shit and Santorum is what it says he is when you google his name... Mitt Romney remembers Golden Jubilee...a parade that happened 9 months before he was born.  I am guessing that was the day his parents did it (it was 9 months before he was born) and he just had a really good memory...even as a zygote LOL... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/27/mitt-romney-remembers-golden-jubile e_n_1305110.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000009 Senator Santorum scares me - more than Bachmann. I think he is just as bat-shit crazy as Bachmann, but, he actually has a shot at getting the nomination. I don't think he would win, but then again, I didn't think President Obama would either. ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more ----- workable politics. ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more ----- God's providential plan: ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more ----- attack on America. ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more ----- of the world. > > I see this religious/racial extremism in my own country's politics as > well though it is more subtle and it worries me. > >

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02/27/2012 10:05 PM

And then to top that off...Wyoming legislators, picturing the downfall of America are voting on a Doomsday bill... http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/27/10520804-wyoming-lawmaker-intro duces-doomsday-bill The best part is the Commission they are setting up to look into this is also looking into buying an aircraft carrier...keep in mind this is Wyoming...  Gotta love Republicans... Just when you thought Bush/Cheney was full of shit and Santorum is what it says he is when you google his name... Mitt Romney remembers Golden Jubilee...a parade that happened 9 months before he was born.  I am guessing that was the day his parents did it (it was 9 months before he was born) and he just had a really good memory...even as a zygote LOL... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/27/mitt-romney-remembers-golden-jubile e_n_1305110.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000009 Senator Santorum scares me - more than Bachmann. I think he is just as bat-shit crazy as Bachmann, but, he actually has a shot at getting the nomination. I don't think he would win, but then again, I didn't think President Obama would either. ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more ----- workable politics. ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more ----- God's providential plan: ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more ----- attack on America. ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more ----- of the world. > > I see this religious/racial extremism in my own country's politics as > well though it is more subtle and it worries me. > >


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