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Chevy Volt ready for California HOV access, extra $1,500 in rebates

General Motors Co. said Thursday it has begun shipping low-emission Jerry Barnes 02/27/2012 10:15 PM
It's cheaper to pay a rebate on the electric car than to deal with the Maureen 02/27/2012 11:08 PM
<sarcasm> Larry C. Lyons 02/28/2012 08:30 AM
Doesn't electricity come from mostly coal burning power plants? Sam 02/28/2012 09:12 AM
> Doesn't electricity come from mostly coal burning power plants? GMoney 02/28/2012 09:16 AM
"Doesn't electricity come from mostly coal burning power plants?" Jerry Barnes 02/28/2012 09:37 AM
Not out here.  I've posted links demonstrating that before.  Maureen 02/28/2012 09:58 AM
It says half of the power comes from out of state coal burning plants. Sam 02/28/2012 10:38 AM
Yeah, cause 13 thousand is more than 28 thousand or 177 thousand every Maureen 02/28/2012 10:54 AM
Wow, why so obnoxious all the time? Sam 02/28/2012 11:08 AM
Ok...so he took math...not geography... Eric Roberts 02/28/2012 09:35 PM
yeah really, so what? Dana 02/28/2012 11:51 PM
I just spent $66 to fill up on about 14 gallons.  Bummer. Gruss Gott 02/29/2012 01:31 AM
Need to get a more efficient car. I just spent $50 on filling up the Larry C. Lyons 02/29/2012 08:19 AM
I generally spend about that much on a fill up here in Chicago...i do that Eric Roberts 02/29/2012 09:22 AM
Are you confused also? Sam 02/29/2012 10:05 AM
A couple of months ago I said oil was going to skyrocket and was called a liar. Sam 02/29/2012 10:06 AM
"I just spent $66 to fill up on about 14 gallons.  Bummer." Jerry Barnes 02/29/2012 02:08 PM
"It says half of the power comes from out of state coal burning plants." Jerry Barnes 02/29/2012 02:09 PM
----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more ----- GMoney 02/29/2012 02:25 PM
Hmm, seems like the Gingrich's answer to $2.50 a gallon is to get rid of Chu. Sam 02/29/2012 03:07 PM
I just bought a gently used 2007 BMW 325i with the 3 liter 6 banger. Medic 03/01/2012 10:45 AM
"That's because gas prices in this country are not based on the usual dynamic Jerry Barnes 03/01/2012 11:08 AM
That's an awesome car! 0_0 Vivec 03/01/2012 11:56 AM
I still prefer my MINI. Larry C. Lyons 03/01/2012 12:53 PM
Yes, I love it to bits. Those Germans think of everything, it's a Medic 03/01/2012 02:09 PM
Good thing, as I don't want you trying to take my car ;) Medic 03/01/2012 02:09 PM
I just filled up this morning...$75. Eric Roberts 03/01/2012 02:33 PM
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Eric Roberts < Cameron Childress 03/01/2012 02:37 PM
It costs me about 30USD to fill my tank. (BMW 320i) Vivec 03/01/2012 02:52 PM
Yeah, they're pretty hot cars. I drove a 2012 X1 with the four banger. Lots Medic 03/01/2012 03:02 PM
You'd have to pry this car out of my cold dead hands first. Best road Larry C. Lyons 03/01/2012 03:27 PM
That's the way I used to feel about my slammed civic. I haven't had a Medic 03/01/2012 04:17 PM
And in related news: Jerry Barnes 03/02/2012 09:30 PM

02/27/2012 10:15 PM
Author: Jerry Barnes Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/thread.cfm/threadid:34160#347550 General Motors Co. said Thursday it has begun shipping low-emission Chevrolet Volt models to California that qualify for a $1,500 state rebate and allow drivers to travel in the state's carpool lanes. GM expects the new qualifications to boost sales of the Volt in its most important market, and the company will soon begin an advertising and marketing blitz both to increase sales and further restore the image of its much-maligned hybrid-electric vehicle. http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/303778/20120223/chevy-volt-california-hov-sticker-rebate-carpool.htm Good deal.  If you buy a new Volt in CA, you can drive in the High Occupancy Lane with one person.  Throw in the state kicking in  $1500 and it's even better.  Good thing CA has money to burn. J - I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them. - Thomas Jefferson
02/27/2012 11:08 PM
Author: Maureen Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/thread.cfm/threadid:34160#347552 It's cheaper to pay a rebate on the electric car than to deal with the pollution from the gasoline and diesel engines.  Clean air is a precious commodity out here. > Good deal.  If you buy a new Volt in CA, you can drive in the High > Occupancy Lane with one person.  Throw in the state kicking in  $1500 and > it's even better.  Good thing CA has money to b
02/28/2012 08:30 AM
Author: Larry C. Lyons Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/thread.cfm/threadid:34160#347569 <sarcasm>      Well don't you know that all that pollution stuff is really pseudoscience, just like global warming. </sarcasm> ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----
02/28/2012 09:12 AM
Author: Sam Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/thread.cfm/threadid:34160#347573 Doesn't electricity come from mostly coal burning power plants? . > > It's cheaper to pay a rebate on the electric car than to deal with the > pollution from the gasoline and diesel engines.  Clean air is a > precious commodity out here.
02/28/2012 09:16 AM
Author: GMoney Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/thread.cfm/threadid:34160#347574 > Doesn't electricity come from mostly coal burning power plants? > > In Cali it comes from windmill farts.
02/28/2012 09:37 AM
Author: Jerry Barnes Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/thread.cfm/threadid:34160#347580 "Doesn't electricity come from mostly coal burning power plants?" Sure.  In other states.  CA can't make their own apparently, or enough. They need to change the name anyway.  It can't be the HOV lane. J - The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the larger centers has owned the Government ever since the days of Andrew Jackson. - FDR
02/28/2012 09:58 AM
Author: Maureen Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/thread.cfm/threadid:34160#347586 Not out here.  I've posted links demonstrating that before.  Almost all of the electricity used in Alameda County, where I currently live, comes from alternative energy sources.  Statewide, the most common fuels are Natural Gas, Hydro and Nuclear.  Coal is used, but in steadily reduced amounts. http://energyalmanac.ca.gov/electricity/electricity_generation.html > > Doesn't electricity come from mostly coal burning power plants?
02/28/2012 10:38 AM
Author: Sam Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/thread.cfm/threadid:34160#347596 It says half of the power comes from out of state coal burning plants. It also shows that coal is the fastest growing form of energy. . ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----
02/28/2012 10:54 AM
Author: Maureen Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/thread.cfm/threadid:34160#347599 Yeah, cause 13 thousand is more than 28 thousand or 177 thousand every day.  Did you even take math? > > It says half of the power comes from out of state coal burning plants. > It also shows that coal is the fastest growing form of energy.\
02/28/2012 11:08 AM
Author: Sam Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/thread.cfm/threadid:34160#347608 Wow, why so obnoxious all the time? I did take math. Because I took math I know that  72k is much higher than 30k. BTW, Intermountain Power Plant Utah is on of the largest coal-fired plants in the US . > > Yeah, cause 13 thousand is more than 28 thousand or 177 thousand every > day.  Did you even take math?
02/28/2012 09:35 PM
Author: Eric Roberts Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/thread.cfm/threadid:34160#347654 Ok...so he took math...not geography... rebates Wow, why so obnoxious all the time? I did take math. Because I took math I know that  72k is much higher than 30k. BTW, Intermountain Power Plant Utah is on of the largest coal-fired plants in the US . > > Yeah, cause 13 thousand is more than 28 thousand or 177 thousand every > day.  Did you even take math?
02/28/2012 11:51 PM
Author: Dana Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/thread.cfm/threadid:34160#347661 yeah really, so what? On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 6:24 PM, Eric Roberts < owner@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----
02/29/2012 01:31 AM
Author: Gruss Gott Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/thread.cfm/threadid:34160#347664 I just spent $66 to fill up on about 14 gallons.  Bummer. On Feb 27, 2012, at 7:14 PM, Jerry Barnes <criticalj@gmail.com> wrote: ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----
02/29/2012 08:19 AM
Author: Larry C. Lyons Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/thread.cfm/threadid:34160#347667 Need to get a more efficient car. I just spent $50 on filling up the Mini. Mind you that will last about a week and a half (35mpg combined so far). ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----
02/29/2012 09:22 AM
Author: Eric Roberts Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/thread.cfm/threadid:34160#347673 I generally spend about that much on a fill up here in Chicago...i do that about 3 - 4 times every 2 weeks.  I have an almost 80 mile round trip commute. rebates I just spent $66 to fill up on about 14 gallons.  Bummer. On Feb 27, 2012, at 7:14 PM, Jerry Barnes <criticalj@gmail.com> wrote: ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----
02/29/2012 10:05 AM
Author: Sam Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/thread.cfm/threadid:34160#347675 Are you confused also? . > > yeah really, so what?
02/29/2012 10:06 AM
Author: Sam Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/thread.cfm/threadid:34160#347676 A couple of months ago I said oil was going to skyrocket and was called a liar. Go figure . > > I just spent $66 to fill up on about 14 gallons.  Bummer
02/29/2012 02:08 PM
Author: Jerry Barnes Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/thread.cfm/threadid:34160#347691 "I just spent $66 to fill up on about 14 gallons.  Bummer." No doubt.  I feel your pain. Interestingly enough, gas consumption in the US continues to fall (seven straight weeks) and the prices continue to rise. J - We have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it. - Nancy Pelosi
02/29/2012 02:09 PM
Author: Jerry Barnes Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/thread.cfm/threadid:34160#347692 "It says half of the power comes from out of state coal burning plants." You're missing the main point.  It's okay for other states to pollute their air for CA's benefit. J - That Scott down there that's running for governor of Florida. Instead of running for governor of Florida, they ought to have him and shoot him. Put him against the wall and shoot him. - Rep. Paul Kanjorski, D-Pa.
02/29/2012 02:25 PM
Author: GMoney Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/thread.cfm/threadid:34160#347695 ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more ----- That's because gas prices in this country are not based on the usual dynamic of supply and demand. the usual culprit blamed for price hikes is "speculation". Gimme a fucking break.
02/29/2012 03:07 PM
Author: Sam Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/thread.cfm/threadid:34160#347698 Hmm, seems like the Gingrich's answer to $2.50 a gallon is to get rid of Chu. “But is the overall goal to get our price” of gasoline down, asked Nunnelee. “No, the overall goal is to decrease our dependency on oil, to build and strengthen our economy,” Chu replied. “We think that if you consider all these energy policies, including energy efficiency, we think that we can go a long way to becoming less dependent on oil and [diversifying] our supply and we’ll help the American economy and the American consumers.” . ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----
03/01/2012 10:45 AM
Author: Medic Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/thread.cfm/threadid:34160#347731 I just bought a gently used 2007 BMW 325i with the 3 liter 6 banger. It only takes 94 octane and costs me $82.00 to fill, which is 60 L, or about 13 gal. Lasts me about a week just driving to and from work. Ouch. ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----
03/01/2012 11:08 AM
Author: Jerry Barnes Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/thread.cfm/threadid:34160#347739 "That's because gas prices in this country are not based on the usual dynamic of supply and demand." So true.  Interesting that it has happened under two consecutive administrations ran by opposing parties. "the usual culprit blamed for price hikes is 'speculation'." It certainly is the boogey man.  I think it goes deeper than that. Speculation would be easy to fix. "Gimme a fucking break." Not at the pump. J - My vow shall be to pay the national debt, to prevent a monied aristocracy from growing up around our administration that must bend to its views, and ultimately destroy the liberty of our country. - Andrew Jackson
03/01/2012 11:56 AM
Author: Vivec Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/thread.cfm/threadid:34160#347753 That's an awesome car! 0_0 On 1 March 2012 11:44, Medic <hofmedic@gmail.com> wrote: ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----
03/01/2012 12:53 PM
Author: Larry C. Lyons Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/thread.cfm/threadid:34160#347755 I still prefer my MINI. On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Vivec <gel214th@gmail.com> wrote: ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----
03/01/2012 02:09 PM
Author: Medic Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/thread.cfm/threadid:34160#347757 Yes, I love it to bits. Those Germans think of everything, it's a pretty intelligent machine. She's thirsty though... very thirsty. On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Vivec <gel214th@gmail.com> wrote: ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----
03/01/2012 02:09 PM
Author: Medic Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/thread.cfm/threadid:34160#347758 Good thing, as I don't want you trying to take my car ;) On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Larry C. Lyons <larryclyons@gmail.com>wrote: ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----
03/01/2012 02:33 PM
Author: Eric Roberts Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/thread.cfm/threadid:34160#347759 I just filled up this morning...$75. rebates I just bought a gently used 2007 BMW 325i with the 3 liter 6 banger. It only takes 94 octane and costs me $82.00 to fill, which is 60 L, or about 13 gal. Lasts me about a week just driving to and from work. Ouch. ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----
03/01/2012 02:37 PM
Author: Cameron Childress Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/thread.cfm/threadid:34160#347761 On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Eric Roberts < owner@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > I just filled up this morning...$75. My fill ups are $50 on average - will generally last me a couple of weeks. 3-4 weeks if I am only driving to/from work and nowhere else. -Cameron ...
03/01/2012 02:52 PM
Author: Vivec Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/thread.cfm/threadid:34160#347763 It costs me about 30USD to fill my tank. (BMW 320i) As for fuel consumption in the BMW, the new 2012 328i with the 4 cylinder twin turbo engine has more power and better mpg than the older models. I think it's pushing over 245hp with a sub 6 second 0 - 60mph time.
03/01/2012 03:02 PM
Author: Medic Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/thread.cfm/threadid:34160#347765 Yeah, they're pretty hot cars. I drove a 2012 X1 with the four banger. Lots of power but not that awesome low throaty torque sound of the 6. On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Vivec <gel214th@gmail.com> wrote: ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----
03/01/2012 03:27 PM
Author: Larry C. Lyons Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/thread.cfm/threadid:34160#347768 You'd have to pry this car out of my cold dead hands first. Best road car I've driven. The advertising tag line is "with go-kart handling" is an understatement. On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 2:08 PM, Medic <hofmedic@gmail.com> wrote: ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----
03/01/2012 04:17 PM
Author: Medic Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/thread.cfm/threadid:34160#347778 That's the way I used to feel about my slammed civic. I haven't had a chance to put this car through it's paces with the summer rubber yet. Another few weeks and I can take the snows off and start pushing it harder. Can't wait. Though I can likely blow $80 in a single joy ride. ha. On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 3:27 PM, Larry C. Lyons <larryclyons@gmail.com>wrote: ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----
03/02/2012 09:30 PM
Author: Jerry Barnes Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/thread.cfm/threadid:34160#347859 And in related news: GM laying off 1300 due to low Volt sales ( http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/gm-laying-1300-due-low-volt-sales/406771 ) Summary:  It's the media's fault. GM temporarily halts production of Volt ( http://thehill.com/blogs/transportation-report/automobiles/213889-gm-halting-production-of-chevy-volt ) Summary:  GM needs to make production meet demand. J - If once the people become inattentive to the public affairs, you and I, and Congress and Assemblies, Judges and Governors, shall all become wolves. It seems to be the law of our general nature, in spite of individual exceptions. - Thomas Jefferson
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