Have you been hacked you might want to check

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/20/fbi-internet-july_n_1441260.html?ref=fb&src=sp&comm_ref=false If you have been hacked, according to the FBI, you won't have internet access after July 9th...

sounds a bit far fetched to me. the address of the registrant of the domain is some house in Cupertino, CA. ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

This is what I see when I go to that site: Service Unavailable. Please try again later. ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

Maybe it got hacked. ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

It's probably getting bombed with requests...same thing happeend when they opened up the 1940 census... On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Brian Thornton <Brian@cfdeveloper.com>wrote: ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

yes but some house in Cupertino? It sounds a bit too much like a scam. ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

It is a private (meaning civilian volunteer) working group who runs this site. Much like the group that solved the confliker worm. It appears (according to all of the major security blogs, including norton and others) to be a valid and recommended tool. (although all of the for-pay virus protection companies, as always, points out how by paying them money, they neednt worry about such things) ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

I would rather have a virus than install any of the for pay virus protection, especially the POS called Norton. > (although all of the for-pay virus protection companies, as always, > points out how by paying them money, they neednt worry about such > things)

Lots of companies are based in houses in Silicon Valley including - for quite a while - Facebook. > > yes but some house in Cupertino? It sounds a bit too much like a scam.

Paul Vixie is an expert on DNS. I have not particularly checked this story, but I have seen it several times already in very reputable venues. I am not sure what seems far-fetched, but the DNS Changer scam is real and was mentioned several times in the outcry over SOPA. Estonia is par for the course. Counterfeit websites are routine. Turning off the virus software is usual. The site works fine for me. To all the Norton-haters out there, amen. I like Avira. If you try it make sure you get it from a site you know, like CNET, as there are or at least were counterfeits of their site also. ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

> Paul Vixie is an expert on DNS.  I have not particularly checked > this story, but I have seen it several times already in very reputable > venues. I am not sure what seems far-fetched, but the DNS > Changer scam is real and was mentioned several times in the > outcry over SOPA. As someone who ran a DNS services company for over a decade and continues to follow DNS very closely, I can second that Paul is considered a hero/expert in the DNS community and was called in to set up DNS resolvers so that when the scammer's name servers were taken down it would continue to transparently work for all those infected. They have been wanting to take those offline but there are still hundreds of thousands of people who's computers are still set by the malware to use those resolvers.  They will be coming offline soon, however, so there has been a big push to get those infected systems fixed to minimize the support load on ISPs when tens of thousands of customers suddenly call to report their Internet isn't working anymore. -Justin

On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 11:40 PM, Justin Scott <leviathan@darktech.org>wrote: ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more ----- Is it just me, or did the Feds actually do good by the citizens in this case???? Now it's time for citizens to own a little responsibility and get their shit cleaned up. Props to the FBI for setting up these temp servers.

> Is it just me, or did the Feds actually do good by the citizens in > this case???? Now it's time for citizens to own a little responsibility > and get their shit cleaned up. Props to the FBI for setting up these > temp servers. I believe they had good intentions to try and keep things working transparently in the background, yes, and that is the primary reason they've been delaying shutting them down.  They recognized that if they didn't do something then more than half a million people (some in government departments) would swarm their respective help-desks with calls about the Internet being broken.  Instead, they've tried to stem that tide and get the word out to correct your DNS settings if you're infected and the numbers still using those servers have steadily dropped, and it's time to pull the plug on the rest. On the other hand, the distrusting side of me knows that it would be a very simple matter to log all of those DNS requests (host requested, origin IP and a timestamp) which could be used to spy on what people are doing online to a degree (e.g. which domains you're visiting, when, and how often).  Do I believe that is what's happening?  No, but it's a possibility that can't be ignored.  They did the right thing as long as their intentions are pure.  The fact that they brought in an outside expert to implement the system is a testament to that to some degree. -Justin

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Justin Scott <leviathan@darktech.org>wrote: ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more ----- yeah, that's a good point.

exactly. This is pretty much my take on the situation also. ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

Amazing...isn't it? On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 11:40 PM, Justin Scott <leviathan@darktech.org>wrote: ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more ----- Is it just me, or did the Feds actually do good by the citizens in this case???? Now it's time for citizens to own a little responsibility and get their shit cleaned up. Props to the FBI for setting up these temp servers.