FW: Medical examiner: Only marijuana found in system of Fla Man in face-chewing attack

I guess he just had a very bad case of the munchies. http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/medical-examiner-only-marijuana-found-in-system-of-fla-man-in-face-chewing-attack/2012/06/27/gJQAlMET7V_story.html MIAMI ? Lab tests detected only marijuana in the system of a Florida man shot while chewing another man?s face, the medical examiner said Tuesday, ruling out other street drugs including the components typically found in the stimulants known as bath salts. There has been much speculation about what drugs, if any, would lead to the bizarre behavior that authorities said Rudy Eugene exhibited before and during the gruesome attack that left the other man horribly disfigured. A Miami police union official had suggested that Eugene, who was shot and killed by an officer, was probably under the influence of bath salts. The Miami-Dade County Medical Examiner said in a news release that the toxicology detected marijuana, but it didn?t find any other street drugs, alcohol or prescription drugs. Eugene also tested negative for adulterants commonly mixed with street drugs. The department ruled out the most common components found in bath salts, which mimic the effects of cocaine or methamphetamine and have been associated with bizarre crimes in recent months. An outside forensic toxicology lab, which took a second look at the results, also confirmed the absence of bath salts, synthetic marijuana and LSD. Messages left with the medical examiner?s office for comment were not immediately returned. It?s not clear what led to the May 26 attack on Ronald Poppo, a 65-year-old homeless man who remains hospitalized. Eugene?s friends and family have said he was religious, not violent and that he didn?t drink or do drugs harder than marijuana. ?There?s no answer for it, not really,? Eugene?s younger brother, Marckenson Charles, said in an interview. ?Anybody who knew him knows this wasn?t the person we knew him to be. Whatever triggered him, there is no answer for this.? Surveillance video from a nearby building shows Eugene stripping Poppo and pummeling him, before appearing to hunch over and lie on top of him. The police officer who shot Eugene to death said he growled at the officer when he told him to stop. Charles, Eugene?s brother, said the family does not plan to pursue any legal action against the police for shooting Eugene. ?They used the force they felt was necessary, even if we don?t agree with that,? he said. He said that Eugene has been buried. Shortly before the attack, a person driving on the MacArthur Causeway told a 911 dispatcher a ?completely naked man? was on top of one of the light poles on the causeway and ?acting like Tarzan.? Still, police have said little about what may prompted Eugene to attack Poppo. Poppo has undergone several surgeries and remains hospitalized. His left eye was removed, but doctors said earlier this month they were trying to find a way to restore vision in his right eye. He will need more surgeries before he can explore the options for reconstructing his face, doctors have said. A message left with the hospital was not immediately returned. Poppo?s family has said it had no contact with him for more than 30 years and thought he was dead. Eugene?s girlfriend, meanwhile, has said he never showed any signs of violence. Yovonka Bryant said she and Eugene often read the Bible and the Quran together, and often watched a religious television program in the mornings. She said she never saw Eugene drink and only saw him smoke marijuana once at a party. ___ Associated Press writer Jennifer Kay contributed to this report. Copyright 2012 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rew

That's just bizarre....total mental breakdown of some kind? On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 5:57 PM, Larry C. Lyons <larryclyons@gmail.com>wrote: ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

The article notes that there are many synthetic drugs which they do not have the ability to test for. On 28 June 2012 08:21, GMoney <gm0n3y06@gmail.com> wrote: > > That's just bizarre....total mental breakdown of some kind?

Maybe......anyone read "The Cell" by Stephen King? This reminds me of that. On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 7:27 AM, Vivec <gel214th@gmail.com> wrote: ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 8:21 AM, GMoney <gm0n3y06@gmail.com> wrote: > That's just bizarre....total mental breakdown of some kind? My two cents... He was hypnotized to become a zombie

Reefer Madness!!! It was all true. > On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 8:21 AM, GMoney <gm0n3y06@gmail.com> wrote: > >> That's just bizarre....total mental breakdown of some kind?

no hypnosis won't do that. Listening to Rush Limbaugh on the other hand... (well that would make me want to gnaw my face off to escape). On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 8:42 AM, Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions <casey@uberwebsitesolutions.com> wrote: ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 9:34 AM, Larry C. Lyons <larryclyons@gmail.com>wrote: > no hypnosis won't do that. Listening to Rush Limbaugh on the other > hand... (well that would make me want to gnaw my face off to escape). > Yeah, I'd go all Van Gogh and cut my ears off!

I did  some work in hypnosis during grad school - http://www.lyonsmorris.com/lyons/absStudy/index.htm On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 10:04 AM, Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions <casey@uberwebsitesolutions.com> wrote: ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

The whole point of Bath Salts are that they are made using compounds that are specifically engineered to avoid detection using traditional drug tests. So, I'm not sure what "tests" they used. I'd not expect a standard test panel to always detect these evolving drugs. -Cameron On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 6:57 PM, Larry C. Lyons <larryclyons@gmail.com>wrote: > I guess he just had a very bad case of the munchies. > ...

Obviously, the attacker had all kinds of problems.  And while the story is interesting in a gross kind of way, was it really something that should have garnered national attention for over a month?  If bath salts were not detected, why did the MSM go crazy about them within 48 hours of the attack? Marketing of course.  The pharmaceuticals need bath salts removed as competition for their existing drugs as well as their new ones in the pipeline. J - It isn?t that liberals are ignorant; it?s that they know so much that isn?t so. - Ronald Reaga