infographic on drug use and society

The conclusions are not what I expected: http://thomaskleppesto.tumblr.com/post/26149335063/the-relative-dangers-of-drugs-what-the-science-says -- Larry C. Lyons web: http://www.lyonsmorris.com/lyons LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/larryclyons

I've always maintained that clean psychedelics and mdma had little or no real damage potential.  The pot one is surprising. On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Larry C. Lyons <larryclyons@gmail.com>wrote: ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

think of it, what's the most popular way of consuming weed? - its the smoking part that can be as damaging as cigarettes ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

I think with legality vaporizer prices would plummet in the face of increased production and demand. On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Larry C. Lyons <larryclyons@gmail.com>wrote: ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

still if you have to buy infrastructure to get a buzz, then its not going to be all that successful. People will always choose the cheapest way. ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

I may be a barbarian but I prefer to smoke. On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 12:08 PM, Larry C. Lyons <larryclyons@gmail.com>wrote: ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

I disagree...you ever see the crap people buy to make bars in their homes? Eric Roberts Owner/Developer Three Ravens Consulting owner@threeravensconsulting.com http://www.threeravensconsulting.com tel: 630-881-1515 still if you have to buy infrastructure to get a buzz, then its not going to be all that successful. People will always choose the cheapest way. > > I think with legality vaporizer prices would plummet in the face of > increased production and demand. > > On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Larry C. Lyons <larryclyons@gmail.com>wrote: ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

but you don't need it to get buzzed. ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

No...but they still buy it...  You also don't need all of this stuff to get buzzed...you can use a $2 pack of rolling papers.  As someone stated earlier, as it gets more prolific, the costs will go down greatly. Eric Roberts Owner/Developer Three Ravens Consulting owner@threeravensconsulting.com http://www.threeravensconsulting.com tel: 630-881-1515 but you don't need it to get buzzed. ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more ----- way. ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

Another popular way of using it is using a vaporizer. That method doesn't have the same dangers as smoking it.  Neither does eating it. Eric Roberts Owner/Developer Three Ravens Consulting owner@threeravensconsulting.com http://www.threeravensconsulting.com tel: 630-881-1515 think of it, what's the most popular way of consuming weed? - its the smoking part that can be as damaging as cigarettes > > I've always maintained that clean psychedelics and mdma had little or > no real damage potential.  The pot one is surprising. > > On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Larry C. Lyons <larryclyons@gmail.com>wrote: ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

Medical marijuana users have moved away from smoking.  Vapes and candy are easier and don't have the side effects.  I also get Kind Caps, which are a gel cap of with 500 mgs of sativa.  Kills the nausea quickly, which is the main reason I use cannabis.  The only problem I have with any use is a lack of concentration after taking it.  It seems to disconnect my ability to have linear thought.  So I definitely think that no one should use it while driving or operating heavy machinery.  But that is no different from alcohol and the laws against that are already in place. The politics behind drug laws are fascinating. Hemp is illegal because of the lobbying by Dupont, which wanted to replace the use of hemp rope with nylon rope.  The legal status has nothing to do with the dangers of the drug. LSD is illegal because Leary's results with treating alcoholics panicked the booze manufacturers, and the experiment where he gave it to the Harvard divinity students and many of them had religious epiphanies didn't make the Catholic Church very happy. > > Another popular way of using it is using a vaporizer. That method doesn't > have the same dangers as smoking it.  Neither does eating it.

That's only part of it.  William Randolph Hurst also owed major stock in lumber companies that he bought paper from for his newspaper empire.  He was friends with the US attorney General and convinced him that marihuana was bad mojo and convinced him to back the push to make it illegal.  Other backers were the cotton industry.  Nowadays you can add to that Big Pharma. Newspaper mogul William Randolph Hearst's empire of newspapers began publishing what is known as "Yellow journalism", demonizing the cannabis plant and putting emphasis on connections between cannabis and violent crime.[39] Several scholars argue that the goal was to destroy the hemp industry,[40][41][42] largely as an effort of Hearst, Andrew Mellon and the Du Pont family.[40][42] They argue that with the invention of the decorticator hemp became a very cheap substitute for the paper pulp that was used in the newspaper industry.[40][43] They also believe that Hearst felt that this was a threat to his extensive timber holdings. Mellon was Secretary of the Treasury and the wealthiest man in America and had invested heavily in nylon, DuPont's new synthetic fiber, and considered its success to depend on its replacement of the traditional resource, hemp.[40][44][45][46][47][48][49][50] According to other researchers there were other things than hemp more important for DuPont in the mid-1930s: to finish the product (nylon) before its German competitors, to start plants for nylon with much larger capacity, etc.[51] From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_history_of_cannabis_in_the_United_States Eric Roberts Owner/Developer Three Ravens Consulting owner@threeravensconsulting.com http://www.threeravensconsulting.com tel: 630-881-1515 Medical marijuana users have moved away from smoking.  Vapes and candy are easier and don't have the side effects.  I also get Kind Caps, which are a gel cap of with 500 mgs of sativa.  Kills the nausea quickly, which is the main reason I use cannabis.  The only problem I have with any use is a lack of concentration after taking it.  It seems to disconnect my ability to have linear thought.  So I definitely think that no one should use it while driving or operating heavy machinery.  But that is no different from alcohol and the laws against that are already in place. The politics behind drug laws are fascinating. Hemp is illegal because of the lobbying by Dupont, which wanted to replace the use of hemp rope with nylon rope.  The legal status has nothing to do with the dangers of the drug. LSD is illegal because Leary's results with treating alcoholics panicked the booze manufacturers, and the experiment where he gave it to the Harvard divinity students and many of them had religious epiphanies didn't make the Catholic Church very happy. > > Another popular way of using it is using a vaporizer. That method > doesn't have the same dangers as smoking it.  Neither does eating it.

I am not surprised a bit on the result for pot.  There hasn't been 1 recorded incident that I have seen that the cause of death was an overdose of pot or pot poisoning.  I can also relate from experienced...as a youth not only did I inhale, but I inhaled a lot.  I can remember one time we smoked so much one night that my lungs refused to let me smoke more and there was not overdosing or negative side effects. Eric Roberts Owner/Developer Three Ravens Consulting owner@threeravensconsulting.com http://www.threeravensconsulting.com tel: 630-881-1515 I've always maintained that clean psychedelics and mdma had little or no real damage potential.  The pot one is surprising. On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Larry C. Lyons <larryclyons@gmail.com>wrote: ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

One of the tests for drug lethality is to take a sample of lab rats and gradually increase the dosage until approximately 50% of the sample dies from an overdose (LD50). For weed there is no real LD50. ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Larry C. Lyons <larryclyons@gmail.com>wrote: > One of the tests for drug lethality is to take a sample of lab rats > and gradually increase the dosage until approximately 50% of the > sample dies from an overdose (LD50). For weed there is no real LD50. > http://www.energyfiend.com/death-by-caffeine

Awesome! Eric Roberts Owner/Developer Three Ravens Consulting owner@threeravensconsulting.com http://www.threeravensconsulting.com tel: 630-881-1515 Want a signature like this? On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Larry C. Lyons <larryclyons@gmail.com>wrote: > One of the tests for drug lethality is to take a sample of lab rats > and gradually increase the dosage until approximately 50% of the > sample dies from an overdose (LD50). For weed there is no real LD50. > http://www.energyfiend.com/death-by-caffeine

Interesting.  Dropped it on my Facebook. -Cameron On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Larry C. Lyons <larryclyons@gmail.com>wrote: > The conclusions are not what I expected: > > > http://thomaskleppesto.tumblr.com/post/26149335063/the-relative-dangers-of-drugs-what-the-science-says > >

On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Larry C. Lyons <larryclyons@gmail.com>wrote: ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more ----- This dude has been to one too many raves,