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The tide is high
Author: Michael Dinowitz
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/thread.cfm/threadid:9447#86673
I'm being deluged with spam at the moment. The lists have blocked over 100 in
the last 20 minutes or so and my black hole account has done likewise. What the
hell is going on? Is it be nice to spammers day today?
Michael Dinowitz
Finding technical solutions to the problems you didn't know you had yet
Author: Michael Dinowitz
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/thread.cfm/threadid:9447#86675
And a chunk of the spam is virus spam that's being sent through nasa.gov. Anyone
here at nasa and can get their machines cleaned?
> I'm being deluged with spam at the moment. The lists have blocked over 100
in
> the last 20 minutes or so and my black hole account has done likewise. What
the
> hell is going on? Is it be nice to spammers day today?
>
> Michael Dinowitz
> Finding technical solutions to the problems you didn't know you had
yet
Author: Dan Phillips \(CFXHosting.com\)
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/thread.cfm/threadid:9447#86676
I've gotten some reports from customers that they are getting the same
message every 30 seconds and it seems to be a virus. All of my email
accounts are getting Spam just as they normally would. I'm guessing that
maybe the spammers are making up for extra time since the Blackout.
Dan Phillips
www.CFXHosting.com
1-866-239-4678
dphillips@cfxhosting.com
Do you want complete ColdFusion Administrator access? RDS? Terminal
Server?- CFX-Advanced VPS -
http://www.cfxhosting.com/Plans/s_cfxadvancedVPS.cfm
I'm being deluged with spam at the moment. The lists have blocked over
100 in the last 20 minutes or so and my black hole account has done
likewise. What the hell is going on? Is it be nice to spammers day
today?
Michael Dinowitz
Finding technical solutions to the problems you didn't know you had yet
Author: Michael Dinowitz
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/thread.cfm/threadid:9447#86678
And the virus posters as well. I'm getting a lot of government 'true' senders,
as well as others who I'd expect to have some real protection. My tools are
showing me exactly who's sending what and I'm bouncing the messages back with
warnings about them, but....
Looks like its time to rewrite the tools some more to add in a virus category
and special processing for it. Till now, viruses are labeled as spam to be
reported. A label of virus to be reported will be more exact.
Of course, I can be prosecuted for posting up the sites that spam me and who I
block, but that's another thread. :)
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Author: William Wheatley
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/thread.cfm/threadid:9447#86680
where is it aganist the law to tell people who is spamming you??
> And the virus posters as well. I'm getting a lot of government 'true'
senders,
> as well as others who I'd expect to have some real protection. My tools
are
> showing me exactly who's sending what and I'm bouncing the messages back
with
> warnings about them, but....
> Looks like its time to rewrite the tools some more to add in a virus
category
> and special processing for it. Till now, viruses are labeled as spam to be
> reported. A label of virus to be reported will be more exact.
> Of course, I can be prosecuted for posting up the sites that spam me and
who I
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Author: Doug White
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/thread.cfm/threadid:9447#86683
According to the SANS and other lists that I participate in, there is a huge
increase taking place. Part of the reason is a ton of open proxy compromised
systems ended up getting either taken off-line or fixed due to the Mblaster
infection, and the spammers are scouring the entire net looking for vulnerable
systems with which to install proxies and spew the spam. It seems they are
finding a number of candidates, and WindowsXP seems to be the most vulnerable
system.
But in the past 7 days, my spam traps have seen a 50 fold increase in spam spew.
Mostly from open proxies in Brazil, China, Korea, and some in Japan.
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| I'm being deluged with spam at the moment. The lists have blocked over 100 in
| the last 20 minutes or so and my black hole account has done likewise. What
the
| hell is going on? Is it be nice to spammers day today?
|
| Michael Dinowitz
| Finding technical solutions to the problems you didn't know you had yet
|
|
Author: Michael Dinowitz
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/thread.cfm/threadid:9447#86684
Check out the thread titles "we're in trouble". my spam page, which posts the
domains who have spammed me and who are blocked can cause a damage to the
reputation of the companies involved as well as point out to spammers where an
open relay may be. This falls under the discussion in that thread.
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Author: Jim Davis
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/thread.cfm/threadid:9447#86686
Consider yourself (somewhat) lucky... I'm currently dealing with a bug
that retrieves the same messages many, many times... including spam.
I've gotten 7,000 messages in the last few hours. ;^)
But it does seem like a particularly heavy day - for viruses and well.
I usually get two or three a week, and this morning Norton has already
nabbed at least 10.
Jim Davis
> I'm being deluged with spam at the moment. The lists have blocked over
100
> in
> the last 20 minutes or so and my black hole account has done likewise.
> What the
> hell is going on? Is it be nice to spammers day today?
>
> Michael Dinowitz
> Finding technical solutions to the problems you didn't know you had
yet
Author: Ben Doom
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/thread.cfm/threadid:9447#86689
Hmm. They probably used a metric antivirus on an english virus. Remember,
folks, Bugbear requires a 3/8" socket!
-- Ben Doom
Programmer & General Lackey
Moonbow Software, Inc
: -----Original Message-----
:
: Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 11:11 AM
: To: CF-Community
: Subject: Re: The tide is high
:
:
: And a chunk of the spam is virus spam that's being sent through
: nasa.gov. Anyone
: here at nasa and can get their machines cleaned?
:
:
: > I'm being deluged with spam at the moment. The lists have
: blocked over 100 in
: > the last 20 minutes or so and my black hole account has done
: likewise. What
: the
: > hell is going on? Is it be nice to spammers day today?
: >
: > Michael Dinowitz
: > Finding technical solutions to the problems you didn't know you had yet
: >
: >
:
Author: Kevin Graeme
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/thread.cfm/threadid:9447#86691
Is that an email client bug perhaps? Sounds very similar to one that I know
is in Outlook.
-Kevin
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Author: Critz
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/thread.cfm/threadid:9447#86695
oi Doug!!
we are getting nailed with this apparently...
http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.sobig.f@mm.html
--
------------------------------------
Tuesday, August 19, 2003, 11:34:23 AM, you wrote:
DW> According to the SANS and other lists that I participate in, there is a
huge
DW> increase taking place. Part of the reason is a ton of open proxy
compromised
DW> systems ended up getting either taken off-line or fixed due to the
Mblaster
DW> infection, and the spammers are scouring the entire net looking for
vulnerable
DW> systems with which to install proxies and spew the spam. It seems they
are
DW> finding a number of candidates, and WindowsXP seems to be the most
vulnerable
DW> system.
DW> But in the past 7 days, my spam traps have seen a 50 fold increase in spam
spew.
DW> Mostly from open proxies in Brazil, China, Korea, and some in Japan.
DW> ======================================
DW> Stop spam on your domain, use our gateway!
DW> For hosting solutions http://www.clickdoug.com
DW> ISP rated: http://www.forta.com/cf/isp/isp.cfm?isp_id=772
DW> ======================================
DW> If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done!
DW> ----- Original Message -----
DW> From: "Michael Dinowitz" <mdinowit@houseoffusion.com>
DW> To: "CF-Community" <cf-community@houseoffusion.com>
DW> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 10:07 AM
DW> Subject: The tide is high
DW> | I'm being deluged with spam at the moment. The lists have blocked over
100 in
DW> | the last 20 minutes or so and my black hole account has done likewise.
What
DW> the
DW> | hell is going on? Is it be nice to spammers day today?
DW> |
DW> | Michael Dinowitz
DW> | Finding technical solutions to the problems you didn't know you had yet
DW> |
DW> |
DW>
Author: Jim Davis
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/thread.cfm/threadid:9447#86700
I'm thinking it is on my side, although it coincided with my Host
switching email servers. That may just have triggered it tho (I don't
see multiple messages on the server).
But I do use Outlook... any KB references off the top of your head?
Jim Davis
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bug
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well.
> > I usually get two or three a week, and this morning Norton has
already
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over
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likewise.
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had
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Author: Kevin Graeme
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/thread.cfm/threadid:9447#86703
I found one once, but I don't seem to have it bookmarked. I did find this
though:
http://www.slipstick.com/addins/mail.htm#dupes
-Kevin
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Author: Kevin Graeme
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/thread.cfm/threadid:9447#86705
Ah ha! Here it is:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;292249
We too had this problem suddenly show up when we switched email servers.
We're using Courier. From what I read in the Courier support forum (and I
use the word "support" loosely since it's open source), it appears that
Courier isn't as forgiving about MS's errors as some other email servers may
be.
-Kevin
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Author: William Wheatley
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/thread.cfm/threadid:9447#86706
They would have a hard time proving anything because its all fact so don't
sweat it
> Check out the thread titles "we're in trouble". my spam page, which posts
the
> domains who have spammed me and who are blocked can cause a damage to the
> reputation of the companies involved as well as point out to spammers
where an
----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----
tools
> > are
> > > showing me exactly who's sending what and I'm bouncing the
messages
back
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to be
> > > reported. A label of virus to be reported will be more exact.
> > > Of course, I can be prosecuted for posting up the sites that spam
me
and
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same
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that
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over
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yet
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Author: jon hall
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/thread.cfm/threadid:9447#86709
I'm seeing this as well. My spam folder has 25 emails in the last 2.5
hours containing the subjects, Wicked Screensaver, Approved, Details,
Your Application, and Thank You! All with the same content, different
email addresses, but from the same ip address (156.80.190.78). While
typing this I just received two from a different ip.
I also got this message today...
Your message dated Tue, 19 Aug 2003 12:10:06 --0400 with subject "Re: Wicked
screensaver" has been submitted to the moderator of the ETHICS list: Michael
Blakenship <michael1@UGA.EDU>.
Apparently some kind of bounce, but seeing as I did a virus scan two
days ago and don't use Outlook I'm fairly sure I'm not infected. I'm
scanning now to make sure though. Looks like another Klez...
--
jon
mailto:jonhall@ozline.net
Tuesday, August 19, 2003, 11:10:58 AM, you wrote:
DPCc> I've gotten some reports from customers that they are getting the same
DPCc> message every 30 seconds and it seems to be a virus. All of my email
DPCc> accounts are getting Spam just as they normally would. I'm guessing that
DPCc> maybe the spammers are making up for extra time since the Blackout.
DPCc> Dan Phillips
DPCc> www.CFXHosting.com
DPCc> 1-866-239-4678
DPCc> dphillips@cfxhosting.com
DPCc> Do you want complete ColdFusion Administrator access? RDS? Terminal
DPCc> Server?- CFX-Advanced VPS -
DPCc> http://www.cfxhosting.com/Plans/s_cfxadvancedVPS.cfm
DPCc> -----Original Message-----
DPCc
DPCc> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 11:07 AM
DPCc> To: CF-Community
DPCc> Subject: The tide is high
DPCc> I'm being deluged with spam at the moment. The lists have blocked over
DPCc> 100 in the last 20 minutes or so and my black hole account has done
DPCc> likewise. What the hell is going on? Is it be nice to spammers day
DPCc> today?
DPCc> Michael Dinowitz
DPCc> Finding technical solutions to the problems you didn't know you had yet
DPCc>
Author: jon hall
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/thread.cfm/threadid:9447#86715
Apparently it's Sobig.E
http://news.com.com/2100-1002_3-5065494.html
--
jon
mailto:jonhall@ozline.net
Tuesday, August 19, 2003, 2:07:02 PM, you wrote:
jh> I'm seeing this as well. My spam folder has 25 emails in the last 2.5
jh> hours containing the subjects, Wicked Screensaver, Approved, Details,
jh> Your Application, and Thank You! All with the same content, different
jh> email addresses, but from the same ip address (156.80.190.78). While
jh> typing this I just received two from a different ip.
jh> I also got this message today...
jh> Your message dated Tue, 19 Aug 2003 12:10:06 --0400 with subject "Re:
Wicked
jh> screensaver" has been submitted to the moderator of the ETHICS list:
Michael
jh> Blakenship <michael1@UGA.EDU>.
jh> Apparently some kind of bounce, but seeing as I did a virus scan two
jh> days ago and don't use Outlook I'm fairly sure I'm not infected. I'm
jh> scanning now to make sure though. Looks like another Klez...
Author: Dan Phillips \(CFXHosting.com\)
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/thread.cfm/threadid:9447#86716
Sounds like a Virus that would only send viagra spam
</cf_rimshot>
Dan Phillips
www.CFXHosting.com
1-866-239-4678
dphillips@cfxhosting.com
Do you want complete ColdFusion Administrator access? RDS? Terminal
Server?- CFX-Advanced VPS -
http://www.cfxhosting.com/Plans/s_cfxadvancedVPS.cfm
Apparently it's Sobig.E
http://news.com.com/2100-1002_3-5065494.html
--
jon
mailto:jonhall@ozline.net
Tuesday, August 19, 2003, 2:07:02 PM, you wrote:
jh> I'm seeing this as well. My spam folder has 25 emails in the last
jh> 2.5 hours containing the subjects, Wicked Screensaver, Approved,
jh> Details, Your Application, and Thank You! All with the same content,
jh> different email addresses, but from the same ip address
jh> (156.80.190.78). While typing this I just received two from a
jh> different ip.
jh> I also got this message today...
jh> Your message dated Tue, 19 Aug 2003 12:10:06 --0400 with subject
jh> "Re: Wicked screensaver" has been submitted to the moderator of the
jh> ETHICS list: Michael Blakenship <michael1@UGA.EDU>.
jh> Apparently some kind of bounce, but seeing as I did a virus scan two
jh> days ago and don't use Outlook I'm fairly sure I'm not infected. I'm
jh> scanning now to make sure though. Looks like another Klez...
Author: Sandy Clark
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/thread.cfm/threadid:9447#86731
I've gotten a whole lot of bounced messages from people claiming I have a
virus.
But I don't have the virus. I've checked for the virus both through my
anti-virus software and also manually using the info from Symantec. In
addition I have a firewall on my machine that alerts me whenever anything
trys to come in or go out and has to be manually authorized.
Somehow my name got onto the list and is now making its rounds. But getting
all these bounced messages is driving me crazy (especially since they are
from domains where I have no contacts that I know of (yale.edu,
deltacollege.edu, etc.). Its weird.
Sandy
I'm seeing this as well. My spam folder has 25 emails in the last 2.5
hours containing the subjects, Wicked Screensaver, Approved, Details,
Your Application, and Thank You! All with the same content, different
email addresses, but from the same ip address (156.80.190.78). While
typing this I just received two from a different ip.
I also got this message today...
Your message dated Tue, 19 Aug 2003 12:10:06 --0400 with subject "Re: Wicked
screensaver" has been submitted to the moderator of the ETHICS list: Michael
Blakenship <michael1@UGA.EDU>.
Apparently some kind of bounce, but seeing as I did a virus scan two
days ago and don't use Outlook I'm fairly sure I'm not infected. I'm
scanning now to make sure though. Looks like another Klez...
--
jon
mailto:jonhall@ozline.net
Tuesday, August 19, 2003, 11:10:58 AM, you wrote:
DPCc> I've gotten some reports from customers that they are getting the same
DPCc> message every 30 seconds and it seems to be a virus. All of my email
DPCc> accounts are getting Spam just as they normally would. I'm guessing
that
DPCc> maybe the spammers are making up for extra time since the Blackout.
DPCc> Dan Phillips
DPCc> www.CFXHosting.com
DPCc> 1-866-239-4678
DPCc> dphillips@cfxhosting.com
DPCc> Do you want complete ColdFusion Administrator access? RDS? Terminal
DPCc> Server?- CFX-Advanced VPS -
DPCc> http://www.cfxhosting.com/Plans/s_cfxadvancedVPS.cfm
DPCc> -----Original Message-----
DPCc
DPCc> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 11:07 AM
DPCc> To: CF-Community
DPCc> Subject: The tide is high
DPCc> I'm being deluged with spam at the moment. The lists have blocked over
DPCc> 100 in the last 20 minutes or so and my black hole account has done
DPCc> likewise. What the hell is going on? Is it be nice to spammers day
DPCc> today?
DPCc> Michael Dinowitz
DPCc> Finding technical solutions to the problems you didn't know you had
yet
DPCc>
Author: Ben Doom
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/thread.cfm/threadid:9447#86735
I'm guessing that someone with you in their contacts is infected. The virus
is sending as you instead of them, since that makes it less likely that
someone will tell the victim he's infected.
-- Ben Doom
Programmer & General Lackey
Moonbow Software, Inc
: -----Original Message-----
:
: Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 4:08 PM
: To: CF-Community
: Subject: RE: The tide is high
:
:
: I've gotten a whole lot of bounced messages from people claiming I have a
: virus.
:
: But I don't have the virus. I've checked for the virus both through my
: anti-virus software and also manually using the info from Symantec. In
: addition I have a firewall on my machine that alerts me whenever anything
: trys to come in or go out and has to be manually authorized.
:
: Somehow my name got onto the list and is now making its rounds.
: But getting
: all these bounced messages is driving me crazy (especially since they are
: from domains where I have no contacts that I know of (yale.edu,
: deltacollege.edu, etc.). Its weird.
:
: Sandy
:
: -----Original Message-----
:
: Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 2:07 PM
: To: CF-Community
: Subject: Re: The tide is high
:
:
: I'm seeing this as well. My spam folder has 25 emails in the last 2.5
: hours containing the subjects, Wicked Screensaver, Approved, Details,
: Your Application, and Thank You! All with the same content, different
: email addresses, but from the same ip address (156.80.190.78). While
: typing this I just received two from a different ip.
:
: I also got this message today...
:
: Your message dated Tue, 19 Aug 2003 12:10:06 --0400 with subject
: "Re: Wicked
: screensaver" has been submitted to the moderator of the ETHICS
: list: Michael
: Blakenship <michael1@UGA.EDU>.
:
: Apparently some kind of bounce, but seeing as I did a virus scan two
: days ago and don't use Outlook I'm fairly sure I'm not infected. I'm
: scanning now to make sure though. Looks like another Klez...
:
: --
: jon
: mailto:jonhall@ozline.net
:
: Tuesday, August 19, 2003, 11:10:58 AM, you wrote:
: DPCc> I've gotten some reports from customers that they are
: getting the same
: DPCc> message every 30 seconds and it seems to be a virus. All of my email
: DPCc> accounts are getting Spam just as they normally would. I'm guessing
: that
: DPCc> maybe the spammers are making up for extra time since the Blackout.
:
: DPCc> Dan Phillips
: DPCc> www.CFXHosting.com
: DPCc> 1-866-239-4678
: DPCc> dphillips@cfxhosting.com
:
: DPCc> Do you want complete ColdFusion Administrator access? RDS? Terminal
: DPCc> Server?- CFX-Advanced VPS -
: DPCc> http://www.cfxhosting.com/Plans/s_cfxadvancedVPS.cfm
:
: DPCc> -----Original Message-----
: DPCc
: DPCc> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 11:07 AM
: DPCc> To: CF-Community
: DPCc> Subject: The tide is high
:
:
: DPCc> I'm being deluged with spam at the moment. The lists have
: blocked over
: DPCc> 100 in the last 20 minutes or so and my black hole account has done
: DPCc> likewise. What the hell is going on? Is it be nice to spammers day
: DPCc> today?
:
: DPCc> Michael Dinowitz
: DPCc> Finding technical solutions to the problems you didn't know you had
: yet
:
:
: DPCc>
:
:
Author: Mike Townend
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/thread.cfm/threadid:9447#86736
We are having the same probs here...
Receiving bounces which we never sent with "Standard virus subjects"
containing pif attachments...
We *know* we never sent them as these email address's only ever appear on
the front of our site...
Looks like theres a harvester out there collecting and sending from those
addresses :(
I've gotten a whole lot of bounced messages from people claiming I have a
virus.
But I don't have the virus. I've checked for the virus both through my
anti-virus software and also manually using the info from Symantec. In
addition I have a firewall on my machine that alerts me whenever anything
trys to come in or go out and has to be manually authorized.
Somehow my name got onto the list and is now making its rounds. But getting
all these bounced messages is driving me crazy (especially since they are
from domains where I have no contacts that I know of (yale.edu,
deltacollege.edu, etc.). Its weird.
Sandy
I'm seeing this as well. My spam folder has 25 emails in the last 2.5 hours
containing the subjects, Wicked Screensaver, Approved, Details, Your
Application, and Thank You! All with the same content, different email
addresses, but from the same ip address (156.80.190.78). While typing this I
just received two from a different ip.
I also got this message today...
Your message dated Tue, 19 Aug 2003 12:10:06 --0400 with subject "Re: Wicked
screensaver" has been submitted to the moderator of the ETHICS list: Michael
Blakenship <michael1@UGA.EDU>.
Apparently some kind of bounce, but seeing as I did a virus scan two days
ago and don't use Outlook I'm fairly sure I'm not infected. I'm scanning now
to make sure though. Looks like another Klez...
--
jon
mailto:jonhall@ozline.net
Tuesday, August 19, 2003, 11:10:58 AM, you wrote:
DPCc> I've gotten some reports from customers that they are getting the
DPCc> same message every 30 seconds and it seems to be a virus. All of
DPCc> my email accounts are getting Spam just as they normally would.
DPCc> I'm guessing
that
DPCc> maybe the spammers are making up for extra time since the
DPCc> Blackout.
DPCc> Dan Phillips
DPCc> www.CFXHosting.com
DPCc> 1-866-239-4678
DPCc> dphillips@cfxhosting.com
DPCc> Do you want complete ColdFusion Administrator access? RDS?
DPCc> Terminal
DPCc> Server?- CFX-Advanced VPS -
DPCc> http://www.cfxhosting.com/Plans/s_cfxadvancedVPS.cfm
DPCc> -----Original Message-----
DPCc
DPCc> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 11:07 AM
DPCc> To: CF-Community
DPCc> Subject: The tide is high
DPCc> I'm being deluged with spam at the moment. The lists have blocked over
DPCc> 100 in the last 20 minutes or so and my black hole account has done
DPCc> likewise. What the hell is going on? Is it be nice to spammers day
DPCc> today?
DPCc> Michael Dinowitz
DPCc> Finding technical solutions to the problems you didn't know you had
yet
DPCc>
Author: Michael Dinowitz
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/thread.cfm/threadid:9447#86738
In the case in question the person was reporting fact as well. Truth doesn't
seem to matter here, just damage to reputation. Go.com can come after me for
claiming (truthfully or not) that they pass spam. comcast can have me arrested
for claiming that they are one of the biggest spam networks that affect my
systems. All true, but that doesn't save me from being some guys wife in prison.
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Author: Ian Skinner
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/thread.cfm/threadid:9447#86742
Arrested? I could see a lot of trouble, but surly this would be a civil
case. They could sue the pants off you and send your finances back to the
stone age making sure you never make a penny for yourself again. Doubly bad,
since they can do this whether they win or not by just making the cost of
Defending yourself too high. But Jail? Can someone be jailed for losing a
civil case?
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Ian Skinner
Web Programmer
BloodSource
Sacramento, CA
In the case in question the person was reporting fact as well. Truth doesn't
seem to matter here, just damage to reputation. Go.com can come after me for
claiming (truthfully or not) that they pass spam. comcast can have me
arrested
for claiming that they are one of the biggest spam networks that affect my
systems. All true, but that doesn't save me from being some guys wife in
prison.
> They would have a hard time proving anything because its all fact so don't
> sweat it
> > Check out the thread titles "we're in trouble". my spam page, which
posts
> the
> > domains who have spammed me and who are blocked can cause a damage to
the
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'true'
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email
> > > > > accounts are getting Spam just as they normally would.
I'm
guessing
> that
> > > > > maybe the spammers are making up for extra time since
the
Blackout.
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Terminal
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done
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had
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Author: Kevin Graeme
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/thread.cfm/threadid:9447#86743
No, no. You can't be some guy's wife in prison. It's a Federal law, and you
know that Bush doesn't permit gay marraige. ;-)
-Kevin
> In the case in question the person was reporting fact as well. Truth
doesn't
> seem to matter here, just damage to reputation. Go.com can come after me
for
> claiming (truthfully or not) that they pass spam. comcast can have me
arrested
> for claiming that they are one of the biggest spam networks that affect my
> systems. All true, but that doesn't save me from being some guys wife in
prison.
>
> > They would have a hard time proving anything because its all fact so
don't
> > sweat it
> > > Check out the thread titles "we're in trouble". my spam page,
which
posts
> > the
> > > domains who have spammed me and who are blocked can cause a damage
to
the
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'true'
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messages
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virus
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spam
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me
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the
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email
> > > > > > accounts are getting Spam just as they normally
would. I'm
guessing
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Blackout.
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Terminal
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blocked
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done
> > > > > > likewise. What the hell is going on? Is it be nice
to spammers
day
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had
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Author: Michael Dinowitz
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/thread.cfm/threadid:9447#86745
Read the story to see how this guy, who was doing something that might fall
under civil as well got nailed as federal.
http://www.securityfocus.com/columnists/179
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Author: Larry C. Lyons
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/thread.cfm/threadid:9447#86747
>Arrested? I could see a lot of trouble, but surly this would be a civil
>case.
If someone busted me over a good deed I'd be a bit surly too.
>They could sue the pants off you and send your finances back to the
>stone age making sure you never make a penny for yourself again. Doubly bad,
>since they can do this whether they win or not by just making the cost of
>Defending yourself too high. But Jail? Can someone be jailed for losing a
>civil case?
>
I did hear that Ashcroft and his friends in the Shrub administration
have been wanted to bring back debtors prison.
larry
--
Larry C. Lyons
========================================================
Life is Complex. It has both real and imaginary parts.
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Chaos, Panic and Disorder. My work here is done.
Author: Michael Dinowitz
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/thread.cfm/threadid:9447#86751
> Looks like theres a harvester out there collecting and sending from those
> addresses :(
Last night the server was heavily (and I mean heavily) hit by a bot from
hinet.net. It failed due to poor programming on the bots side and security on
mine, but I'm betting that it was scooping email addresses off of web pages (or
at least trying). If others check their logs, they may see the same in the last
24 hours or so.
Author: Sandy Clark
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/thread.cfm/threadid:9447#86754
I just did a search through my logs for hinet.net and found them as well.
Looks like they got to me from my entry last week in Sean Corfield's blog.
> Looks like theres a harvester out there collecting and sending from those
> addresses :(
Last night the server was heavily (and I mean heavily) hit by a bot from
hinet.net. It failed due to poor programming on the bots side and security
on
mine, but I'm betting that it was scooping email addresses off of web pages
(or
at least trying). If others check their logs, they may see the same in the
last
24 hours or so.
Author: Tim Heald
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/thread.cfm/threadid:9447#86756
I just started getting stacks of sobig alerts from speakeasy.
Looks like we made a list somewhere :)
Goodies
Tim
I just did a search through my logs for hinet.net and found them as well.
Looks like they got to me from my entry last week in Sean Corfield's blog.
> Looks like theres a harvester out there collecting and sending from those
> addresses :(
Last night the server was heavily (and I mean heavily) hit by a bot from
hinet.net. It failed due to poor programming on the bots side and security
on
mine, but I'm betting that it was scooping email addresses off of web pages
(or
at least trying). If others check their logs, they may see the same in the
last
24 hours or so.
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