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Pete Freitag
10/23/2002 12:23 PM

There are two free editors for Java that are very popular, and very good. Eclipse: http://www.eclipse.org Forte/NetBeans: http://www.sun.com/ http://www.netbeans.org/ (forte is built with netbeans by sun, they have a free version, and a commercial version) Some Java books I like include: Thinking in Java, By Bruce Eckel CodeNotes for J2EE, by Gregory Brill The CodeNotes book is not very indepth, it's about the size of a novel, but it can bring you up to speed on J2EE very quickly, and that's why I like it. Other recommendations include using tutorials there are lots of them at http://java.sun.com/ Use the JavaDoc documentation a lot. Start playing with Java in ColdFusion with <cfobject> _____________________________________________ Pete Freitag CTO, CFDEV.COM http://www.cfdev.com/ Hello all, Sorry for the somewhat off topic post, but as I have noticed many people on this list have gotten into J2EE (Java) stuff. Does anyone have any good book reccomendations to get me started down that path? I have some basic OOP experience, but none with Java, so any help would be awesome. Also, any preferred Development Environments / Editors? Thanks all for any help you might provide, -chris.alvarado [ application developer ] 4 Guys Interactive, Inc. http://www.4guys.com "We create websites that make you a hero."

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Kola Oyedeji
10/23/2002 12:45 PM

Hi Sorry to jump on someone else's thread but does anyone know if any of these IDEs have pop up help like coldfusion studio? I'm looking for an editor Which will help me gain some more familiarity with the built in class libraries. A really good book on Java is "justJava"by Peter Van der Lin (I think that's how you spell his name) Thanks Kola >> There are two free editors for Java that are very popular, and very good. >> >> Eclipse: http://www.eclipse.org >> Forte/NetBeans: http://www.sun.com/ http://www.netbeans.org/ (forte is >> built >> with netbeans by sun, they have a free version, and a commercial version) ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more ----- novel, >> but >> it can bring you up to speed on J2EE very quickly, and that's why I like >> it. >> >> Other recommendations include using tutorials there are lots of them at ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more ----- people ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more ----- any ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

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Mosh Teitelbaum
10/23/2002 02:25 PM

I've used Borland JBuilder and Visual SlickEdit.  Both of them provide popup help, code completion, on the fly compilation, etc.  Personally, I preferred JBuilder, even though it was pretty slow.  But it's, IMO, a very good Java IDE. You can also check out JEdit.  I don't remember though if it provides the popups. -- Mosh Teitelbaum evoch, LLC Tel: (301) 625-9191 Fax: (301) 933-3651 Email: mosh.teitelbaum@evoch.com WWW: http://www.evoch.com/ ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

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Pete Freitag
10/23/2002 06:36 PM

I just came across this site today: http://www.joegrip.com/ Uses flash movies to teach you Java. _____________________________________________ Pete Freitag CTO, CFDEV.COM http://www.cfdev.com/ Hello all, Sorry for the somewhat off topic post, but as I have noticed many people on this list have gotten into J2EE (Java) stuff. Does anyone have any good book reccomendations to get me started down that path? I have some basic OOP experience, but none with Java, so any help would be awesome. Also, any preferred Development Environments / Editors? Thanks all for any help you might provide, -chris.alvarado [ application developer ] 4 Guys Interactive, Inc. http://www.4guys.com "We create websites that make you a hero."

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Rick Faircloth
10/24/2002 11:42 AM

Great!  Finally, interactive tutorials with the *printed* material included online!  It's like attending an expensive MM class, then having the printed material to take home as a reference! Only it costs thousands less!  And you can *attend* the class as often as you like for 6 months! Sure wish Ben Forta would create materials like this *online* for his new books!  (How about it Ben, and other authors? This *is* the way to go. How can it be that when learning about programming for online presentation, we *still* are directed to a bookshelf instead of online for information?) He's got the right idea...use Flash with audio/visual/interactive presentation, make the printed material available online, and charge for the course! Go, Joe! Rick <>< I just came across this site today: http://www.joegrip.com/ Uses flash movies to teach you Java. _____________________________________________ Pete Freitag CTO, CFDEV.COM http://www.cfdev.com/ Hello all, Sorry for the somewhat off topic post, but as I have noticed many people on this list have gotten into J2EE (Java) stuff. Does anyone have any good book reccomendations to get me started down that path? I have some basic OOP experience, but none with Java, so any help would be awesome. Also, any preferred Development Environments / Editors? Thanks all for any help you might provide, -chris.alvarado [ application developer ] 4 Guys Interactive, Inc. http://www.4guys.com "We create websites that make you a hero."

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Chris Montgomery
10/24/2002 12:43 AM

Wednesday, October 23, 2002, 5:39:06 PM, Pete Freitag wrote: PF> I just came across this site today: PF> http://www.joegrip.com/ PF> Uses flash movies to teach you Java. Very interesting site. When I first looked at one of the free tutorials, I thought it was done in Qarbon Viewlets (missed your comment about it using flash movies - duh). The price is not bad and for someone just starting out learning Java, looks like a good investment. Thanks for the tip. Chris Montgomery        monty @ airtightweb.com -- Airtight Web Services   http://www.airtightweb.com Web Development, Web Project Management, Software Sales 210-490-3249/888-745-7603


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