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Author: Rick Faircloth
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:19642#99921
Thanks, guys... :o)
Rick
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Multiple instances are almost as easy to set up as form fields. You
just call the tag 1x, 2x, 3x... Whatever. It's a non-issue.
Another thing you can do is standardize your tag call into an include.
Say a most-of-screen version for your page text, with all of the toolbar
trimmings, and a cut-down one that's suitable for smaller/simpler
fields.
Its dirt-simple to customize a toolbar. Just remove the title of the
thing you don't want. Play with it for five minutes and you'll know
everything you need to.
--Matt Robertson--
MSB Designs, Inc.
http://mysecretbase.com
The biggest question I would have in using it is how
to use it with multiple text fields to edit on a single page.
e.g., if a client has an announcements page and has,
say, Title, Teaser, and Text fields, and all are separate
fields in a database, would I have to set up 3 instances
of AE on that page...one for each field?
Rick
<><
Nope. Its just a single-domain license. I have to say I really like
AE3. AE 2.5 worked fine, but had a few rough edges. Mostly associated
with what happened when you tried to paste in from other editors (read:
Word). They did a great job of fixing that up, and adding just enough
new good stuff to improve the product without bloating it.
I hate to say it, but I've just about abandoned manual content placement
in favor of cms-type stuff driven by ActivEdit.
--Matt Robertson--
MSB Designs, Inc.
http://mysecretbase.com
Looks good and easy to use.
Does $100 buy unlimited use of the product?
Rick
<><
ActivEdit from CFDEV (www.cfdev.com) is VERY good. If only they would
invoice me so I can buy it! :)
==
Peter Tilbrook
Project Officer
Strategic Development
Australian Building Codes Board
Department of Industry, Tourism and Resources
GPO Box 9839
CANBERRA ACT 2601
AUSTRALIA
E-Mail: peter.tilbrook@abcb.gov.au
Telephone: (02) 6213 6731
Mobile: 0439 401 823
Facsimile: (02) 6213 7287
"Kay Smoljak" <kay@perthweb.com.au> wrote in message
news:000901c2a16d$76f6ace0$0a00a8c0@blackhalo...
> Take a look at Massimo's xhtmleditor -
>
http://www.macromedia.com/software/dreamweaver/special/extensions/#xhtml
_edi
tor
>
> It doesn't have all the features of some of the others, but it
produces
beautiful code, links to your stylesheet, and it's free.
The extension above still has at least a bug or two. A later version is
available on DRK 1 and the editor is still evolving into something
better
Massimo
Author: Matt Robertson
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:19642#99852
Multiple instances are almost as easy to set up as form fields. You
just call the tag 1x, 2x, 3x... Whatever. It's a non-issue.
Another thing you can do is standardize your tag call into an include.
Say a most-of-screen version for your page text, with all of the toolbar
trimmings, and a cut-down one that's suitable for smaller/simpler
fields.
Its dirt-simple to customize a toolbar. Just remove the title of the
thing you don't want. Play with it for five minutes and you'll know
everything you need to.
--Matt Robertson--
MSB Designs, Inc.
http://mysecretbase.com
The biggest question I would have in using it is how
to use it with multiple text fields to edit on a single page.
e.g., if a client has an announcements page and has,
say, Title, Teaser, and Text fields, and all are separate
fields in a database, would I have to set up 3 instances
of AE on that page...one for each field?
Rick
<><
Nope. Its just a single-domain license. I have to say I really like
AE3. AE 2.5 worked fine, but had a few rough edges. Mostly associated
with what happened when you tried to paste in from other editors (read:
Word). They did a great job of fixing that up, and adding just enough
new good stuff to improve the product without bloating it.
I hate to say it, but I've just about abandoned manual content placement
in favor of cms-type stuff driven by ActivEdit.
--Matt Robertson--
MSB Designs, Inc.
http://mysecretbase.com
Looks good and easy to use.
Does $100 buy unlimited use of the product?
Rick
<><
ActivEdit from CFDEV (www.cfdev.com) is VERY good. If only they would
invoice me so I can buy it! :)
==
Peter Tilbrook
Project Officer
Strategic Development
Australian Building Codes Board
Department of Industry, Tourism and Resources
GPO Box 9839
CANBERRA ACT 2601
AUSTRALIA
E-Mail: peter.tilbrook@abcb.gov.au
Telephone: (02) 6213 6731
Mobile: 0439 401 823
Facsimile: (02) 6213 7287
"Kay Smoljak" <kay@perthweb.com.au> wrote in message
news:000901c2a16d$76f6ace0$0a00a8c0@blackhalo...
> Take a look at Massimo's xhtmleditor -
>
http://www.macromedia.com/software/dreamweaver/special/extensions/#xhtml
_edi
tor
>
> It doesn't have all the features of some of the others, but it
produces
beautiful code, links to your stylesheet, and it's free.
The extension above still has at least a bug or two. A later version is
available on DRK 1 and the editor is still evolving into something
better
Massimo
Author: John Lucas
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:19642#99826
I wouldn't set up a separate instance for title...use a text field.
For a teaser and a text field, then you'd need a separate instance
unless you just wanted a short 2-line teaser with no html....then use a
textarea.
It isn't a big issue with using more than one instance. Besides, you'd
have to use more than one instance of any other form field type to
accomplish the same.
As far as the support goes, in our experience we got replies and a
phone call within an hour when we were having an issue with AE
John
The biggest question I would have in using it is how
to use it with multiple text fields to edit on a single page.
e.g., if a client has an announcements page and has,
say, Title, Teaser, and Text fields, and all are separate
fields in a database, would I have to set up 3 instances
of AE on that page...one for each field?
Rick
<><
Nope. Its just a single-domain license. I have to say I really like
AE3. AE 2.5 worked fine, but had a few rough edges. Mostly associated
with what happened when you tried to paste in from other editors (read:
Word). They did a great job of fixing that up, and adding just enough
new good stuff to improve the product without bloating it.
I hate to say it, but I've just about abandoned manual content placement
in favor of cms-type stuff driven by ActivEdit.
--Matt Robertson--
MSB Designs, Inc.
http://mysecretbase.com
Looks good and easy to use.
Does $100 buy unlimited use of the product?
Rick
<><
ActivEdit from CFDEV (www.cfdev.com) is VERY good. If only they would
invoice me so I can buy it! :)
==
Peter Tilbrook
Project Officer
Strategic Development
Australian Building Codes Board
Department of Industry, Tourism and Resources
GPO Box 9839
CANBERRA ACT 2601
AUSTRALIA
E-Mail: peter.tilbrook@abcb.gov.au
Telephone: (02) 6213 6731
Mobile: 0439 401 823
Facsimile: (02) 6213 7287
"Kay Smoljak" <kay@perthweb.com.au> wrote in message
news:000901c2a16d$76f6ace0$0a00a8c0@blackhalo...
> Take a look at Massimo's xhtmleditor -
>
http://www.macromedia.com/software/dreamweaver/special/extensions/#xhtml
_edi
tor
>
> It doesn't have all the features of some of the others, but it
produces
beautiful code, links to your stylesheet, and it's free.
The extension above still has at least a bug or two. A later version is
available on DRK 1 and the editor is still evolving into something
better
Massimo
Author: Rick Faircloth
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:19642#99780
The biggest question I would have in using it is how
to use it with multiple text fields to edit on a single page.
e.g., if a client has an announcements page and has,
say, Title, Teaser, and Text fields, and all are separate
fields in a database, would I have to set up 3 instances
of AE on that page...one for each field?
Rick
<><
Nope. Its just a single-domain license. I have to say I really like
AE3. AE 2.5 worked fine, but had a few rough edges. Mostly associated
with what happened when you tried to paste in from other editors (read:
Word). They did a great job of fixing that up, and adding just enough
new good stuff to improve the product without bloating it.
I hate to say it, but I've just about abandoned manual content placement
in favor of cms-type stuff driven by ActivEdit.
--Matt Robertson--
MSB Designs, Inc.
http://mysecretbase.com
Looks good and easy to use.
Does $100 buy unlimited use of the product?
Rick
<><
ActivEdit from CFDEV (www.cfdev.com) is VERY good. If only they would
invoice me so I can buy it! :)
==
Peter Tilbrook
Project Officer
Strategic Development
Australian Building Codes Board
Department of Industry, Tourism and Resources
GPO Box 9839
CANBERRA ACT 2601
AUSTRALIA
E-Mail: peter.tilbrook@abcb.gov.au
Telephone: (02) 6213 6731
Mobile: 0439 401 823
Facsimile: (02) 6213 7287
"Kay Smoljak" <kay@perthweb.com.au> wrote in message
news:000901c2a16d$76f6ace0$0a00a8c0@blackhalo...
> Take a look at Massimo's xhtmleditor -
>
http://www.macromedia.com/software/dreamweaver/special/extensions/#xhtml
_edi
tor
>
> It doesn't have all the features of some of the others, but it
produces
beautiful code, links to your stylesheet, and it's free.
The extension above still has at least a bug or two. A later version is
available on DRK 1 and the editor is still evolving into something
better
Massimo
Author: Matt Robertson
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:19642#99748
Nope. Its just a single-domain license. I have to say I really like
AE3. AE 2.5 worked fine, but had a few rough edges. Mostly associated
with what happened when you tried to paste in from other editors (read:
Word). They did a great job of fixing that up, and adding just enough
new good stuff to improve the product without bloating it.
I hate to say it, but I've just about abandoned manual content placement
in favor of cms-type stuff driven by ActivEdit.
--Matt Robertson--
MSB Designs, Inc.
http://mysecretbase.com
Looks good and easy to use.
Does $100 buy unlimited use of the product?
Rick
<><
ActivEdit from CFDEV (www.cfdev.com) is VERY good. If only they would
invoice me so I can buy it! :)
==
Peter Tilbrook
Project Officer
Strategic Development
Australian Building Codes Board
Department of Industry, Tourism and Resources
GPO Box 9839
CANBERRA ACT 2601
AUSTRALIA
E-Mail: peter.tilbrook@abcb.gov.au
Telephone: (02) 6213 6731
Mobile: 0439 401 823
Facsimile: (02) 6213 7287
"Kay Smoljak" <kay@perthweb.com.au> wrote in message
news:000901c2a16d$76f6ace0$0a00a8c0@blackhalo...
> Take a look at Massimo's xhtmleditor -
>
http://www.macromedia.com/software/dreamweaver/special/extensions/#xhtml
_edi
tor
>
> It doesn't have all the features of some of the others, but it
produces
beautiful code, links to your stylesheet, and it's free.
The extension above still has at least a bug or two. A later version is
available on DRK 1 and the editor is still evolving into something
better
Massimo
Author: Michael Greenberg
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:19642#99744
Not to bash CFdev Peter. I love their product and I have deployed their
product using CF,JSP,and PHP, but they have the worst support in the world.
I left a message from them after 2 emails and I didnt get a call back from
them for 3 weeks.
I do love their product though :)
Thanks,
Michael
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http://www.macromedia.com/software/dreamweaver/special/extensions/#xhtml_edi
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Author: Rick Faircloth
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:19642#99743
Looks good and easy to use.
Does $100 buy unlimited use of the product?
Rick
<><
ActivEdit from CFDEV (www.cfdev.com) is VERY good. If only they would
invoice me so I can buy it! :)
==
Peter Tilbrook
Project Officer
Strategic Development
Australian Building Codes Board
Department of Industry, Tourism and Resources
GPO Box 9839
CANBERRA ACT 2601
AUSTRALIA
E-Mail: peter.tilbrook@abcb.gov.au
Telephone: (02) 6213 6731
Mobile: 0439 401 823
Facsimile: (02) 6213 7287
"Kay Smoljak" <kay@perthweb.com.au> wrote in message
news:000901c2a16d$76f6ace0$0a00a8c0@blackhalo...
> Take a look at Massimo's xhtmleditor -
>
http://www.macromedia.com/software/dreamweaver/special/extensions/#xhtml_edi
tor
>
> It doesn't have all the features of some of the others, but it produces
beautiful code, links to your stylesheet, and it's free.
The extension above still has at least a bug or two. A later version is
available on DRK 1 and the editor is still evolving into something better
Massimo
Author: Tilbrook, Peter
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:19642#99741
ActivEdit from CFDEV (www.cfdev.com) is VERY good. If only they would
invoice me so I can buy it! :)
==
Peter Tilbrook
Project Officer
Strategic Development
Australian Building Codes Board
Department of Industry, Tourism and Resources
GPO Box 9839
CANBERRA ACT 2601
AUSTRALIA
E-Mail: peter.tilbrook@abcb.gov.au
Telephone: (02) 6213 6731
Mobile: 0439 401 823
Facsimile: (02) 6213 7287
"Kay Smoljak" <kay@perthweb.com.au> wrote in message
news:000901c2a16d$76f6ace0$0a00a8c0@blackhalo...
> Take a look at Massimo's xhtmleditor -
>
http://www.macromedia.com/software/dreamweaver/special/extensions/#xhtml_edi
tor
>
> It doesn't have all the features of some of the others, but it produces
beautiful code, links to your stylesheet, and it's free.
The extension above still has at least a bug or two. A later version is
available on DRK 1 and the editor is still evolving into something better
Massimo
Author: Massimo, Tiziana e Federica
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:19642#99724
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it all the time. I'd be very interested in your pro version, what price
range (even ballpark?) do you think it will be in?
The price should be pretty good, stay tuned :-)
Massimo
Author: Massimo, Tiziana e Federica
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:19642#99723
"Kay Smoljak" <kay@perthweb.com.au> wrote in message
news:000901c2a16d$76f6ace0$0a00a8c0@blackhalo...
> Take a look at Massimo's xhtmleditor -
>
http://www.macromedia.com/software/dreamweaver/special/extensions/#xhtml_edi
tor
>
> It doesn't have all the features of some of the others, but it produces
beautiful code, links to your stylesheet, and it's free.
The extension above still has at least a bug or two. A later version is
available on DRK 1 and the editor is still evolving into something better
Massimo
Author: Kay Smoljak
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:19642#99690
Cantrell, Adam wrote:
> I'd like to see an editor that only defines classes in a div or a span, and
> which provides a default style sheet. The extent of the html would be very
> simple <a>, <br />, <hr /> and XHTML compliant. One
problem I see with this
> is pulling in word documents, or old HTML with tables and invalid markup.
Take a look at Massimo's xhtmleditor -
http://www.macromedia.com/software/dreamweaver/special/extensions/#xhtml_editor
It doesn't have all the features of some of the others, but it produces beautiful
code, links to your stylesheet, and it's free.
Kay.
--
Kay Smoljak
----------------------------
http://kay.smoljak.com
Author: Kay Smoljak
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:19642#99689
Massimo, Tiziana e Federica wrote:
> Yes, I had the same concerns and I came out with a custom solution:
>
> http://hh212167-174.chicagowebs.com/cfxhtml/
>
> I am still working on a few details, but you should get the picture
Hi Massimo,
That looks great. I was just plugging your DWMX extension version, we use it all
the time. I'd be very interested in your pro version, what price range (even
ballpark?) do you think it will be in?
Kay.
--
Kay Smoljak
----------------------------
http://kay.smoljak.com
Author: Kevin Graeme
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:19642#99569
Yep, that's the rub. We're looking at big content repositories as well and
it does seem like the longer we continue to make stuff in other formats, the
bigger the job will be to convert it to something like XML.
-Kevin
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Author: Cantrell, Adam
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:19642#99556
Problem is pulling in either word or other text documents or older html
documents from the database. There's no way a text-editor would know how to
properly transform that format into our own custom XML. I'm afraid that will
still have to be a manual process.
XHTML seems like a better step, as from what I believe it's just an 'XML
standard that happens to have the syntax of html'.
Adam.
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Author: Kevin Graeme
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:19642#99522
Wouldn't that be XML?
-Kevin
...
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Author: Cantrell, Adam
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:19642#99439
Hey thanks Pete, you guys make a good product. We're now using version 3
with stylesheets and custom classes - huge improvement. We've taken out the
style toolbars that would allow you to change size/color/font, and have
replaced them with a set of standard classes.
The problem now though is pulling in all of the content that was created
with 2.5. There is still a great deal of <font> and other static styles
which don't really give our content a consistent feel (at least looking at
the source it doesn't). Word documents are much better, but still heavily
garbled with unsightly markup - even after filtering. I understand that this
may be a limitation of the MS provided "word filter".
So thanks for improving the product, we did choose yours for a reason. I'd
just like to see a solid format for storing content long-term and still
being able to change its presentation 10 years down the road if needed. The
goal is to have our content people focusing on their substantive areas of
expertise, and not the technical aspects of "why do I have to paste this
into notepad and then redo all of the styles again?". That has been a huge
process for them - converting a bunch of old dreamweaver code into
ActiveEdit, and you can imagine the looks I got when I told them we were
upgrading to version 3. All I could say was that it was for their own good
:|
Hopefully my original msg wasn't taken as being overly critical of your
guys' product, was more of a general complaint towards the common markup
woes that we still all have to deal with for some reason :)
Adam.
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Author: Joshua Miller
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:19642#99420
I've used SiteObjects soEditor for a few years now (previously EZEdit)
and I tend to disagree with Krieg's assessment ... I think it's quite a
nice tool - and you can't beat the price!
Thanks,
Joshua Miller
> Bleeaghhh... steaming pile of code turds.
Wow Krieg, thanks for the nice compliment. :)
---
Don Bellamy
SiteObjects, Inc.
http://www.siteobjects.com/
Tel (517) 324-4227 ext 100
Fax (517) 324-4267
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Author: Pete Freitag
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:19642#99401
Adam, in ActivEdit 3.0 we added a bunch of regular expressions, and parsers
to clean up Word content pasted into the control, it's not perfect but it
does get rid of lots of extraneous markup when you paste from Word. Are you
using Version 3?
As for the HTML that ActivEdit generates (actually it's the ActiveX control
that generates the HTML in most cases), it is valid HTML 3.2. Many people
prefer XHTML output these days, and we do have a CFX tag that will convert
HTML 3.2 or 4 into XHTML or vise versa, if your interested let me know. The
next version of ActivEdit will address these issues further.
You can also set a stylesheet for use within activedit via the stylesheet
attribute.
_____________________________________________
Pete Freitag
CTO, CFDEV.COM
http://www.cfdev.com/
I'd like to see an editor that only defines classes in a div or a span, and
which provides a default style sheet. The extent of the html would be very
simple <a>, <br />, <hr /> and XHTML compliant. One problem I
see with this
is pulling in word documents, or old HTML with tables and invalid markup.
We're currently using ActiveEdit, and even though it's working well, I have
this really uneasy feeling about the HTML it's producing. It just completely
goes against the concept of separating content from style, but I just can't
think of a suitable alternative to doing it this way until we can:
a. Go through all of our old content stripping out all of the markup, and
then restylizing it using the new editor's classes.
b. Make the decision to never paste word documents, or old html into the
editor without first "cleansing" it in notepad, and then restylizing it
within the editor.
That would be a complete administrative nightmare.
Is anyone else feeling the same concerns, and has anyone taken measures to
address this? I'd be interested in hearing what you did.
Adam.
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Author: Don Bellamy
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:19642#99397
> Bleeaghhh... steaming pile of code turds.
Wow Krieg, thanks for the nice compliment. :)
---
Don Bellamy
SiteObjects, Inc.
http://www.siteobjects.com/
Tel (517) 324-4227 ext 100
Fax (517) 324-4267
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Author: Massimo, Tiziana e Federica
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:19642#99381
> I'd like to see an editor that only defines classes in a div or a span,
and
> which provides a default style sheet. The extent of the html would be very
> simple <a>, <br />, <hr /> and XHTML compliant. One
problem I see with
this
> is pulling in word documents, or old HTML with tables and invalid markup.
>
> Is anyone else feeling the same concerns, and has anyone taken measures to
> address this? I'd be interested in hearing what you did.
Yes, I had the same concerns and I came out with a custom solution:
http://hh212167-174.chicagowebs.com/cfxhtml/
I am still working on a few details, but you should get the picture
----------------------------
Massimo Foti
Team Macromedia Volunteer for Dreamweaver
http://www.macromedia.com/go/team
----------------------------
Author: Rob Rohan
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:19642#99380
That is a *nice* product
:)
Bleeaghhh... steaming pile of code turds.
It's a case of "you get what you pay for."
Personally, my money would be on
http://www.editlive.com/product/editliveforjava/default.asp
Although a bit pricey, it takes care of cross-platform nastiness much
more efficiently than just about any other editor I've seen.
I've not seen any other editors that have impressed me so much. Most
all have major issues on Macs, or require horrendous workarounds to
function upon it. Certainly soEditor provides no solution, since it's
IE/Win only.
Timothy Heald wrote:
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Author: Cantrell, Adam
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:19642#99375
I'd like to see an editor that only defines classes in a div or a span, and
which provides a default style sheet. The extent of the html would be very
simple <a>, <br />, <hr /> and XHTML compliant. One problem I
see with this
is pulling in word documents, or old HTML with tables and invalid markup.
We're currently using ActiveEdit, and even though it's working well, I have
this really uneasy feeling about the HTML it's producing. It just completely
goes against the concept of separating content from style, but I just can't
think of a suitable alternative to doing it this way until we can:
a. Go through all of our old content stripping out all of the markup, and
then restylizing it using the new editor's classes.
b. Make the decision to never paste word documents, or old html into the
editor without first "cleansing" it in notepad, and then restylizing it
within the editor.
That would be a complete administrative nightmare.
Is anyone else feeling the same concerns, and has anyone taken measures to
address this? I'd be interested in hearing what you did.
Adam.
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Author: Kreig Zimmerman
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:19642#99372
Bleeaghhh... steaming pile of code turds.
It's a case of "you get what you pay for."
Personally, my money would be on
http://www.editlive.com/product/editliveforjava/default.asp
Although a bit pricey, it takes care of cross-platform nastiness much
more efficiently than just about any other editor I've seen.
I've not seen any other editors that have impressed me so much. Most
all have major issues on Macs, or require horrendous workarounds to
function upon it. Certainly soEditor provides no solution, since it's
IE/Win only.
Timothy Heald wrote:
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Author: Joshua Miller
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:19642#99361
Fair enough.
Joshua Miller
Head Programmer / IT Manager
Garrison Enterprises Inc.
www.garrisonenterprises.net
webmaster@garrisonenterprisesdigital.com
(704) 569-9044 ext. 254
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I can't recommend anything. We have looked at everything and not found
one to our likely. We created a rich text editor in Flash that's
interface is different than one would expect to get around the issues in
Flash. However, I'm not happy with it either. IMHO, Flash-based editors
could be much better if Macromedia designed the text component slightly
different.
Matt Liotta
President & CEO
Montara Software, Inc.
http://www.montarasoftware.com/
888-408-0900 x901
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> All of the Flash-based editors seem to suffer from the same problem;
> they support a limited amount of HTML. While it is understandable that
a
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directory;
> > disallow editing of scripts/includes/forms/ or even anything but
text;
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any
> > existing page, or make anything from scratch. And you can define a
> file
> > size limit to how large of a graphic can be used on a page (in KB,
not
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Author: Matt Liotta
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:19642#99360
I can't recommend anything. We have looked at everything and not found
one to our likely. We created a rich text editor in Flash that's
interface is different than one would expect to get around the issues in
Flash. However, I'm not happy with it either. IMHO, Flash-based editors
could be much better if Macromedia designed the text component slightly
different.
Matt Liotta
President & CEO
Montara Software, Inc.
http://www.montarasoftware.com/
888-408-0900 x901
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> All of the Flash-based editors seem to suffer from the same problem;
> they support a limited amount of HTML. While it is understandable that
a
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permissions.
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directory;
> > disallow editing of scripts/includes/forms/ or even anything but
text;
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any
> > existing page, or make anything from scratch. And you can define a
> file
> > size limit to how large of a graphic can be used on a page (in KB,
not
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Author: Joshua Miller
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:19642#99357
I've used soEditor before (EZ-Edit I believe it used to be?) - and
that's what I still use actually. I know there's a new version, I'm
going to weigh it in as well. I've always been happy with it - but I'm
building a large-scale application that's going to support many thousand
users and before I go jump into anything I want to evaluate a few of
them.
Trying to be more conservative about my decision making - LOL
Joshua Miller
Head Programmer / IT Manager
Garrison Enterprises Inc.
www.garrisonenterprises.net
webmaster@garrisonenterprisesdigital.com
(704) 569-9044 ext. 254
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You should look at soEditor also.
http://www.siteobjects.com/pages/order.cfm?object=65&method=viewCart
Tim
I would think that given those abilities that integrating it into an
intranet security context would provide functionality for permissions.
Personally, I'd rather have something that lets me control file/edit
permissions and simply sticks to editing capabilities. I want a
super-form-control more than a content manager - I'll handle the content
management as it applies to my specific application.
Is there a version of the DRK2 Rich Text Editor online anywhere that I
could try before I buy? I'd like to be able to make an informed decision
before jumping into something.
Although from the looks of ActivEdit it's going to be hard to beat.
Joshua Miller
Head Programmer / IT Manager
Garrison Enterprises Inc.
www.garrisonenterprises.net webmaster@garrisonenterprisesdigital.com
(704) 569-9044 ext. 254
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There are built-in controls to limit users to a particular directory;
disallow editing of scripts/includes/forms/ or even anything but text;
allow or disallow the ability to assign css styles, and disable the
<font> tag and even inline css styles. You can limit users to only edit
pages, create pages based on templates, , create pages by copying any
existing page, or make anything from scratch. And you can define a file
size limit to how large of a graphic can be used on a page (in KB, not
dimensions.)
That's pretty much what you can control. You can create groups of users
with different permissions. Other than that, it's not really extensible
for permissions from what I can see.
-Kevin
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Author: Joshua Miller
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:19642#99356
So what do you recommend Matt?
Joshua Miller
Head Programmer / IT Manager
Garrison Enterprises Inc.
www.garrisonenterprises.net
webmaster@garrisonenterprisesdigital.com
(704) 569-9044 ext. 254
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All of the Flash-based editors seem to suffer from the same problem;
they support a limited amount of HTML. While it is understandable that a
400kB plug-in can't render every bit of HTML, it isn't cool that the
text component all these editors are based on strips away HTML it
doesn't understand.
Matt Liotta
President & CEO
Montara Software, Inc.
http://www.montarasoftware.com/
888-408-0900 x901
> I would think that given those abilities that integrating it into an
> intranet security context would provide functionality for permissions.
> Personally, I'd rather have something that lets me control file/edit
> permissions and simply sticks to editing capabilities. I want a
> super-form-control more than a content manager - I'll handle the
content
> management as it applies to my specific application.
>
> Is there a version of the DRK2 Rich Text Editor online anywhere that I
> could try before I buy? I'd like to be able to make an informed
decision
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> Garrison Enterprises Inc.
>
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If
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edit
> pages, create pages based on templates, , create pages by copying any
> existing page, or make anything from scratch. And you can define a
file
> size limit to how large of a graphic can be used on a page (in KB, not
> dimensions.)
>
> That's pretty much what you can control. You can create groups of
users
> with different permissions. Other than that, it's not really
extensible
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it
> > is? For example. if I wanted to limit the html editing controls my
> > users had (no fonts or colours, for example, or only stylesheet
> > classes) could I do this? Or say I wanted to change the colour of
the
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Author: Timothy Heald
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:19642#99354
You should look at soEditor also.
http://www.siteobjects.com/pages/order.cfm?object=65&method=viewCart
Tim
I would think that given those abilities that integrating it into an
intranet security context would provide functionality for permissions.
Personally, I'd rather have something that lets me control file/edit
permissions and simply sticks to editing capabilities. I want a
super-form-control more than a content manager - I'll handle the content
management as it applies to my specific application.
Is there a version of the DRK2 Rich Text Editor online anywhere that I
could try before I buy? I'd like to be able to make an informed decision
before jumping into something.
Although from the looks of ActivEdit it's going to be hard to beat.
Joshua Miller
Head Programmer / IT Manager
Garrison Enterprises Inc.
www.garrisonenterprises.net
webmaster@garrisonenterprisesdigital.com
(704) 569-9044 ext. 254
************************************************************************
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dissemination, distribution or copying is strictly prohibited. If you
have received this e-mail in error please delete it immediately and
advise us by return e-mail to postmaster@garrisonenterprisesdigital.com
************************************************************************
*************
There are built-in controls to limit users to a particular directory;
disallow editing of scripts/includes/forms/ or even anything but text;
allow or disallow the ability to assign css styles, and disable the
<font> tag and even inline css styles. You can limit users to only edit
pages, create pages based on templates, , create pages by copying any
existing page, or make anything from scratch. And you can define a file
size limit to how large of a graphic can be used on a page (in KB, not
dimensions.)
That's pretty much what you can control. You can create groups of users
with different permissions. Other than that, it's not really extensible
for permissions from what I can see.
-Kevin
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Author: Matt Liotta
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:19642#99353
All of the Flash-based editors seem to suffer from the same problem;
they support a limited amount of HTML. While it is understandable that a
400kB plug-in can't render every bit of HTML, it isn't cool that the
text component all these editors are based on strips away HTML it
doesn't understand.
Matt Liotta
President & CEO
Montara Software, Inc.
http://www.montarasoftware.com/
888-408-0900 x901
> I would think that given those abilities that integrating it into an
> intranet security context would provide functionality for permissions.
> Personally, I'd rather have something that lets me control file/edit
> permissions and simply sticks to editing capabilities. I want a
> super-form-control more than a content manager - I'll handle the
content
> management as it applies to my specific application.
>
> Is there a version of the DRK2 Rich Text Editor online anywhere that I
> could try before I buy? I'd like to be able to make an informed
decision
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> Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual
sender,
> except where the sender states them to be the views of
> Garrison Enterprises Inc.
>
> This e-mail is intended only for the individual or entity to which it
is
> addressed and contains information that is private and confidential.
If
> you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any
> dissemination, distribution or copying is strictly prohibited. If you
> have received this e-mail in error please delete it immediately and
> advise us by return e-mail to
postmaster@garrisonenterprisesdigital.com
>
************************************************************************
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edit
> pages, create pages based on templates, , create pages by copying any
> existing page, or make anything from scratch. And you can define a
file
> size limit to how large of a graphic can be used on a page (in KB, not
> dimensions.)
>
> That's pretty much what you can control. You can create groups of
users
> with different permissions. Other than that, it's not really
extensible
----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----
it
> > is? For example. if I wanted to limit the html editing controls my
> > users had (no fonts or colours, for example, or only stylesheet
> > classes) could I do this? Or say I wanted to change the colour of
the
----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----
Author: Joshua Miller
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:19642#99349
I would think that given those abilities that integrating it into an
intranet security context would provide functionality for permissions.
Personally, I'd rather have something that lets me control file/edit
permissions and simply sticks to editing capabilities. I want a
super-form-control more than a content manager - I'll handle the content
management as it applies to my specific application.
Is there a version of the DRK2 Rich Text Editor online anywhere that I
could try before I buy? I'd like to be able to make an informed decision
before jumping into something.
Although from the looks of ActivEdit it's going to be hard to beat.
Joshua Miller
Head Programmer / IT Manager
Garrison Enterprises Inc.
www.garrisonenterprises.net
webmaster@garrisonenterprisesdigital.com
(704) 569-9044 ext. 254
************************************************************************
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Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender,
except where the sender states them to be the views of
Garrison Enterprises Inc.
This e-mail is intended only for the individual or entity to which it is
addressed and contains information that is private and confidential. If
you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any
dissemination, distribution or copying is strictly prohibited. If you
have received this e-mail in error please delete it immediately and
advise us by return e-mail to postmaster@garrisonenterprisesdigital.com
************************************************************************
*************
There are built-in controls to limit users to a particular directory;
disallow editing of scripts/includes/forms/ or even anything but text;
allow or disallow the ability to assign css styles, and disable the
<font> tag and even inline css styles. You can limit users to only edit
pages, create pages based on templates, , create pages by copying any
existing page, or make anything from scratch. And you can define a file
size limit to how large of a graphic can be used on a page (in KB, not
dimensions.)
That's pretty much what you can control. You can create groups of users
with different permissions. Other than that, it's not really extensible
for permissions from what I can see.
-Kevin
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