Issue: Change row color on mouse over in Netscape 4 7

Hello Everyone: I’ve spent too many hours on this I hit a wall. I’m using the code below to alternate row color for my table and when you mouse over each row it should change the background color for the row. It works in IE 5+ and Netscape 6+ but I can’t get it to work in Netscape 4.7 any ideas? <TR valign="top" bgcolor="###iif(currentrow MOD 2,DE('BFCCE6'),DE('D8DFE1'))#" onmouseover="this.style.backgroundColor='##FAF7B8'; window.status='My Window Message';return true;" onmouseout="this.style.backgroundColor='###iif(currentrow MOD 2,DE('BFCCE6'),DE('D8DFE1'))#'; window.status=''; return true;"> Bonus Question: I’m working within a framed page it possible when the user mouse’s over the row to send a value to a window.status for Netscape 4.7? Regards, James Blaha

Netscape 4 does not support changing table background colors like that... -- jon mailto:jonhall@ozline.net Tuesday, December 17, 2002, 1:17:33 PM, you wrote: JB> Hello Everyone: JB> I’ve spent too many hours on this I hit a wall. I’m using the code below JB> to alternate row color for my table and when you mouse over each row it JB> should change the background color for the row. It works in IE 5+ and JB> Netscape 6+ but I can’t get it to work in Netscape 4.7 any ideas? JB> <TR valign="top" JB> bgcolor="###iif(currentrow MOD 2,DE('BFCCE6'),DE('D8DFE1'))#" JB> onmouseover="this.style.backgroundColor='##FAF7B8'; window.status='My JB> Window Message';return true;" JB> onmouseout="this.style.backgroundColor='###iif(currentrow MOD JB> 2,DE('BFCCE6'),DE('D8DFE1'))#'; window.status=''; return true;"> JB> Bonus Question: I’m working within a framed page it possible when the JB> user mouse’s over the row to send a value to a window.status for JB> Netscape 4.7? JB> Regards, JB> James Blaha JB>

Jon, Thanks for the post, I guess I'm stuck on this one. Regards, James Blaha j >Netscape 4 does not support changing table background colors like >that... > >   >

You won't get it to work, NS 4.7's CSS and DHTML support is very weak. I'm also real sure that you can't use an onMouseOver event on a TR or a TD in 4.7 However, from a philosophical perspective (and I don't mean to get OT or cause a furor), if your users are about average as far as browser stats, I wouldn't even bother to offer anything beyond a basic, presentable layout in NS4.x since they are a very small minority (<5% on our site).  But that's just me, I love browsers with solid CSS support :-) Pete ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

>get it to work in Netscape 4.7 any ideas? Forget about it ? http://theregister.co.uk/content/6/28601.html - "most popular browsers on the web are ... 4.  Netscape Navigator 4.0  1.1%" -- Thomas C "Does google know ?"

I'm not sure, but does nutscrape 4.7 even support dhtml?  I'm not sure it supports the onmouseover/onmouseout events...   Why bother?  Nutscrape 4.xx users are fast on the decline, so if you make it look okay for them and great for everyone else, don't worry about it... There's a tonne of sites that forego features when nutscrape users hit their sites.  Just the way it works.  If you use a crappy, four year old browser, you don't deserve the right to see the eye candy.  What's next, rollovers in Lynx? Let the flames begin! Hello Everyone: I've spent too many hours on this I hit a wall. I'm using the code below to alternate row color for my table and when you mouse over each row it should change the background color for the row. It works in IE 5+ and Netscape 6+ but I can't get it to work in Netscape 4.7 any ideas? <TR valign="top" bgcolor="###iif(currentrow MOD 2,DE('BFCCE6'),DE('D8DFE1'))#" onmouseover="this.style.backgroundColor='##FAF7B8'; window.status='My Window Message';return true;" onmouseout="this.style.backgroundColor='###iif(currentrow MOD 2,DE('BFCCE6'),DE('D8DFE1'))#'; window.status=''; return true;"> Bonus Question: I'm working within a framed page it possible when the user mouse's over the row to send a value to a window.status for Netscape 4.7? Regards, James Blaha

Costas Piliotis writes: >snip< > If you use a crappy, four year old browser, > you don't deserve the right to see the eye candy.  What's next, rollovers in > Lynx? > > Let the flames begin! sorry for a meaningless post...but i just had to LOL @ rollovers in Lynx :) but for the record, i happen to agree 100%.  Well, maybe 99.8%.  I'm not terribly concerned with NS 4.x...and I don't have any intention of trying to apply styles or DHTML to my pages that will be functional in 4.x...but I do try to make sure it doesn't break the page.  I'm willing to forego the eye candy aspect...but try to keep functionality. Just my $0.02 (still LOL @ rollovers in Lynx...dunno why it's so funny, but it is) :)

I actually think it's getting to be a good time to force them to upgrade. There was a time where websites started coming along that had a minimum Nutscrape 4/IE 4 requirement.  Why not take a moment and raise the bar to IE 5 / Nutscrape 6 /Opera 6 / Mozilla 1.0...  Makes sense to me... You won't get it to work, NS 4.7's CSS and DHTML support is very weak. I'm also real sure that you can't use an onMouseOver event on a TR or a TD in 4.7 However, from a philosophical perspective (and I don't mean to get OT or cause a furor), if your users are about average as far as browser stats, I wouldn't even bother to offer anything beyond a basic, presentable layout in NS4.x since they are a very small minority (<5% on our site).  But that's just me, I love browsers with solid CSS support :-) Pete ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

Costas Piliotis wrote: > I actually think it's getting to be a good time to force them to upgrade. > There was a time where websites started coming along that had a minimum > Nutscrape 4/IE 4 requirement.  Why not take a moment and raise the bar to IE > 5 / Nutscrape 6 /Opera 6 / Mozilla 1.0...  Makes sense to me... Why not raise it to HTML 4 Strict, CSS Level 1 Core and DOM Level 1? Jochem

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Yeah, you will not get it to work in Netscape 4.x.  The only way to swap background colors effect to work in Netscape 4.x is to make each table row a <LAYER> and then use document.write on an onmouseover event to rewrite the contents of the layer with a different color.  VERY painful.  You might want to look at the nav-bar solution we developed for www.frbatlanta.org (visit using netscape 4, then do view-source) to get a sense of what real PAIN is like! Regards, Steve Drucker CEO Fig Leaf Software w. www.figleaf.com p. (877) FIG-LEAF ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

Steve, Thanks for your input its greatly appreciated. I'll be sure to check out our your site you noted. Have a great holiday! Regards, James Blaha Steve Drucker wrote: ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

Steve, Ouch! I checked out the site that code is painful. Would you happen to have any simplified code that demonstrates this using a table? I need to create a table with this option your using. Thanks again and great job on the site! -JB Steve Drucker wrote: ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----