ColdFusion MX on OSX -- fully compatible? Why not production?

Is CFMX for J2EE on OSX fully compatible with other CFMX versions?  I thought one of the reasons it wasn't officially ported earlier was lack of Verity support on OSX--has that been solved?  I didn't see very much detail in Christian's article or the FAQ. Can anyone comment on why there is no production version available?  Is it technical, qa, support, something else? Thanks, Sam

> Is CFMX for J2EE on OSX fully compatible with other CFMX versions?  I > thought one of the reasons it wasn't officially ported > earlier was lack > of Verity support on OSX--has that been solved?  I didn't see > very much > detail in Christian's article or the FAQ. ask and ye shall receive. Christian just posted some additional info on his weblog: http://markme.com/cantrell/weblog/index.cfm?d=7&y=2003&m=1 > Can anyone comment on why there is no production version > available?  Is > it technical, qa, support, something else? well, one of the primary reasons is that almost all of the feedback we received on CFMX for OS X was specifically for a development, and not production version. hope that helps... mike chambers mesh@macromedia.com

Mike, Thanks for that link.  I think the unsupported features should be clearly documented somewhere; at least in the FAQ.  Just my $0.02. Best regards, Sam

AFAIK, Verity is the only missing component on Mac OS X.  It should be   noted that Verity is also not available on some other CFMX for J2EE   platforms. The Apache connector, Consuming and Publishing Web Services all work.   (These were the major problems with the port). Verity requires a platform specific binary & it does not exist for the   Mac. Verity would be the first choice, but it is possible to satisfy   full-text indexing/search by other means:     combination of CF programs and db capability.     Glimpse, Open-Source, available in Perl, approximates much of   Verity's capability. I personally don't feel that lack of Verity is a show stopper -- but it   would be much better with it. If MM is able to create enough interest for CFMX on the Mac, it would   seem logical that Verity would have a similar opportunity. I am told that it is not a technical issue, but a business case issue,   that is the reason why there is no production version (of CFMX) for the   Mac. Someone who wants to run some stress tests has 30-days of unlimited IP   access to CF -- it would be interesting to see some performance   results.  (I read somewhere that Apple rewrote some of the Sun JVM   1.3.1 to improve performance). I think that this is a smart move by MM.   They get a new bunch of CFMX   developers who will write apps that require servers on some platform.     MM gets to test a new Market without a significant investment in   support. If there is little interest, they have risked little.  If there is   great interest, then they will have a proven  product ready to sell.   HTH Dick On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 04:47 PM, Samuel Neff wrote: ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

Oh, and like there isn't now going to be a lot of aggitation for a production server ... now that the door is open ... MM couldn't see that coming, could it? Mike Chambers wrote: ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

We're just waiting for lots of you to say you'll pay money for it ;-) Supporting it for development is easy for the company, and lets you guys play with it immediately.  Believe me, if there's enough interest in paying for production copies we're listening very closely! Now go play with it and tell us what you think. -Spike (Washburn)

Spike Is there some central contact or person to contact -- we want to be sure that any potential Mac production users appear (as rather large blips) on Macromedia's radar screen? Dick On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 05:58 AM, Spike Washburn wrote: ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

Awesome! > Is CFMX for J2EE on OSX fully compatible with other CFMX versions?  I > thought one of the reasons it wasn't officially ported > earlier was lack > of Verity support on OSX--has that been solved?  I didn't see > very much > detail in Christian's article or the FAQ. ask and ye shall receive. Christian just posted some additional info on his weblog: http://markme.com/cantrell/weblog/index.cfm?d=7&y=2003&m=1 > Can anyone comment on why there is no production version > available?  Is > it technical, qa, support, something else? well, one of the primary reasons is that almost all of the feedback we received on CFMX for OS X was specifically for a development, and not production version. hope that helps... mike chambers mesh@macromedia.com

I promise not to say a word -- going to go haunt some ASP & PHP lists, No, No, don't throw me into that briar patch!  -- Br'er Rabbit, Song of   the South On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 05:49 PM, Owens, Howard wrote: ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

Dick, Thanks for your insight.  True Verity is only a show-stopper if you need it, but we use it quite a lot. Doesn't Jakarta have an open-source Java based full-text search engine? That would be easier to integrate into CFMX than a Perl based one. Might even be possible to rewrite the Verity CF tags to seamlessly support it with standard CFML. I'm actually really surprised there is no full-text search as part of the J2EE standard.  Seems like a glaring omission since almost every web site has a full-text search.  Perhaps I overlooked a major section of the API.  :-) Best regards, Sam

On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 06:22 PM, Samuel Neff wrote: ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more ----- Mmmm.... I am an old Glimpse programmer -- habits die hard! It appears that you are right on! http://jakarta.apache.org/lucene/docs/index.html Lucene is written entirely in Java, Open-Source and available now! --- even has stemming! Should be easy to integrate with CFMX for J2EE! Cool! Dick ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

There's Lucene. http://jakarta.apache.org/lucene/docs/index.html. Then you have to add something that can parse Word/PDF/whatever you need to parse. Lucene only includes HTML parser as a demo. That's when things like POI http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/index.html which can manipulate many office documents. Sorta. There's some other things buried along with these. As an alternative, you could use MS-SQL server which can full-text index a lot of things :) Yeah -- just what you OSX folks want to do ;) Regards, John Paul Ashenfelter CTO/Transitionpoint ashenfelterj@transitionpoint.com ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

John AFAIK, Sybase_ASE whis is available on OS S (and shares a common   heritage with MS-SQL-Server) has full text indexing. Does Oracle9i (also available for OS X). Dick On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 06:55 PM, John Paul Ashenfelter wrote: ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

Is it just a coincidence that your last name contains the word "Apple" in it? :-) Matthew Small IT Supervisor Showstopper National Dance Competitions 3660 Old Kings Hwy Murrells Inlet, SC 29576 843-357-1847 http://www.showstopperonline.com Spike Is there some central contact or person to contact -- we want to be sure that any potential Mac production users appear (as rather large blips) on Macromedia's radar screen? Dick On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 05:58 AM, Spike Washburn wrote: ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 09:11 AM, Matthew Small wrote: > Is it just a coincidence that your last name contains the word "Apple" > in it? :-) > > Yeah,  They both (the Beatles and Apple computer) stole my name --- :) Dick AppleBaum P.S. I've been around a lot longer that either of those young upstarts!

http://www.macromedia.com/support/email/wishform/ please make sure to include the time frame you are looking to deploy OS X in production servers. mike chambers mesh@macromedia.com ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

Anyone have a script to get Jrun/Apache to play nicely together without having to use a port number? It'd be nice to see a FAQ on setting up Apache/Jrun/CFMXJ2EE on OSX with a shellscript for starting the whole conglomerate on boot. I'll host it if anyone wants to contribute. Joshua Miller Head Programmer / IT Manager Garrison Enterprises Inc. www.garrisonenterprises.net webmaster@garrisonenterprisesdigital.com (704) 569-9044 ext. 254 ************************************************************************ ************* Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender states them to be the views of Garrison Enterprises Inc. This e-mail is intended only for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and contains information that is private and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please delete it immediately and advise us by return e-mail to postmaster@garrisonenterprisesdigital.com ************************************************************************ ************* On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 09:11 AM, Matthew Small wrote: > Is it just a coincidence that your last name contains the word "Apple" > in it? :-) > > Yeah,  They both (the Beatles and Apple computer) stole my name --- :) Dick AppleBaum P.S. I've been around a lot longer that either of those young upstarts!

You can just run: /Applications/JRun4/bin/wsconfig It's a nice GUI to configure Apache to sit on top of JRun and CFMX. Is that what you were looking for? Note: Make sure JRun is running before you run the script.  Also, you   have run Apache as root (using sudo) since by default, it will listen   on port 80. Christian On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 12:40 PM, Joshua Miller wrote: ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

/Applications/JRun4/bin/wsconfig follow the gui then http://127.0.0.1/cfusion/..... where cfusion is the CFMX context under the server you connected to   Apache BTW,  you can connect a cluster the same way -- you first need to: 1) create multiple JRun Server instances 2) deploy CFMX under each 3) Cluster them with the JMC as buddys 4) Connect them to apache by cluster name Voila! Dick On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 09:40 AM, Joshua Miller wrote: ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

Josh As dick told me yesterday /Applications/Jrun4/bin/wsconfig does the apache connection As for the jrun on bootup, I've made a script to do it, so contact me off list and ill email you it. Ryan