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Author: Jochem van Dieten
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:23783#119535
Svee, Eric wrote:
> I'm not clear how this is different than SVG--vector-based graphics
> created from XML files that are also capable of being animated . . .
> Plus, it's an open standard as opposed to Flash.
>
> Could someone explain the difference?
SVG is pretty limited in functionality compared to Flash. Not that you
can't do very cool things with it, for instance, whenever I need to make
graphs on the fly with only a few thousand points SVG is my first choice.
But none of the RIA stuff is in SVG. If I have to construct an
*application* that integrates with a database bakend (for instance to do
time management [1]), SVG is out of the question.
So from my understanding, it isn't really conceptually different, you
just get all the Flash functionality that SVG doesn't have, and
undoubtedly it will integrate nicely with the rest of the products from
Macromedia.
Jochem
[1] http://www.macromedia.com/software/dataconnection/demo/
Author: Adrocknaphobia Jones
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:23783#119526
Thanks for the info.
Adam Wayne Lehman
Web Systems Developer
Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health
Distance Education Division
We are fast waking up to the immense opportunities offered by Flash.
Having sweated blood many hours contorting JS and DHTML and all sorts of
convolutions Flash-CF-XML in a Fusebox_Layouts (with FB4.0 almost upon
us) Framework is really opening up so many opportunities. Great stuff
MM.
Kind Regards - Mike Brunt
Original Message -----------------------
Cool. So from what Mike says here
"He showed a Flash based input form with multiple sections. He then
showed the code used to build it, which was written entirely in XML. Not
only was the entire Flash application created from the XML file, but so
was all of the databinding (SOAP Based), ActionScript and StyleSheets
(yes, Cascading Style Sheets)."
This means it'll be easiy to hook it to CF with the cfxml tag. (Which
is fast becoming my favorite new tag)
Candace K. Cottrell, Web Developer
The Children's Medical Center
One Children's Plaza
Dayton, OH 45404
937-641-4293
http://www.childrensdayton.org
cottrellc@childrensdayton.org
>>> dkml@supremegraphics.com 5/9/2003 11:55:52 AM >>>
From Mike Chamber's Blog...
http://www.markme.com/mesh/archives/001970.cfm
> To anyone not under NDA... what's up with Royale? I was hoping
someone
> could shed a little more light on the subject. Maybe compile all
known
> facts and rumors.
>
> Here is a short article on infoWorld titled "Interview: Macromedia
CEO
> discusses upcoming Royale tool". Yet they ask only one question
about
> Royale and don't get much of an answer.
>
> http://www.infoworld.com/article/03/05/08/HNburgessint_1.html
>
> Burgess also touches briefly on it during the recent Macromedia 4th
> Quarter report. Being that it's due to come out within about 6
months,
> there has got to be some more info about it.
>
> And for cf-talk argument # 4:
>
> IDGNS: And now to wrap up with a question pundits and analysts like
to
> ask companies with cutting-edge technology: When is Microsoft going
to
> acquire you?
>
> Burgess: We're good partners; we're not up for sale. There are
millions
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Author: Christian Cantrell
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:23783#119523
The thing to keep in mind is that Macromedia is interested in enabling
Rich Internet Application development, not simply animation (we've got
that pretty well covered), so there is a lot more involved than just
describing vector based graphics in XML. There are two things that are
tricky about RIAs:
1. Initially constructing them.
2. Exchanging data between them and the server once they are built.
Flash and Flash Remoting address these issues in one way today. Royale
will address them in a new way in the not-so-distant future.
If you are familiar with Flash and you like the graphical nature of the
Flash authoring tool, FR is great, and you're all set. If you are
primarily a programmer and feel uncomfortable with a visual/graphical
tool like Flash, you will like what you see with Royale.
As Rob says, "It's essentially Flash for programmers."
Christian
On Friday, May 9, 2003, at 12:16 PM, Svee, Eric wrote:
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Author: Mike Brunt
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:23783#119509
We are fast waking up to the immense opportunities offered by Flash. Having
sweated blood many hours contorting JS and DHTML and all sorts of convolutions
Flash-CF-XML in a Fusebox_Layouts (with FB4.0 almost upon us) Framework is really
opening up so many opportunities. Great stuff MM.
Kind Regards - Mike Brunt
Original Message -----------------------
Cool. So from what Mike says here
"He showed a Flash based input form with multiple sections. He then
showed the code used to build it, which was written entirely in XML. Not
only was the entire Flash application created from the XML file, but so
was all of the databinding (SOAP Based), ActionScript and StyleSheets
(yes, Cascading Style Sheets)."
This means it'll be easiy to hook it to CF with the cfxml tag. (Which
is fast becoming my favorite new tag)
Candace K. Cottrell, Web Developer
The Children's Medical Center
One Children's Plaza
Dayton, OH 45404
937-641-4293
http://www.childrensdayton.org
cottrellc@childrensdayton.org
>>> dkml@supremegraphics.com 5/9/2003 11:55:52 AM >>>
From Mike Chamber's Blog...
http://www.markme.com/mesh/archives/001970.cfm
> To anyone not under NDA... what's up with Royale? I was hoping
someone
> could shed a little more light on the subject. Maybe compile all
known
> facts and rumors.
>
> Here is a short article on infoWorld titled "Interview: Macromedia
CEO
> discusses upcoming Royale tool". Yet they ask only one question
about
> Royale and don't get much of an answer.
>
> http://www.infoworld.com/article/03/05/08/HNburgessint_1.html
>
> Burgess also touches briefly on it during the recent Macromedia 4th
> Quarter report. Being that it's due to come out within about 6
months,
> there has got to be some more info about it.
>
> And for cf-talk argument # 4:
>
> IDGNS: And now to wrap up with a question pundits and analysts like
to
> ask companies with cutting-edge technology: When is Microsoft going
to
> acquire you?
>
> Burgess: We're good partners; we're not up for sale. There are
millions
----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----
Author: Bryan F. Hogan
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:23783#119502
Ah! I blogged this same idea a few weeks ago. I don't know, but I have a
sneaky feeling that one will write a SVG xml file and then it will be
dynamically generate into Flash's code base. So instead of requiring a SVG
plug-in you will only require a flash plugin.
I'm not clear how this is different than SVG--vector-based graphics
created from XML files that are also capable of being animated . . .
Plus, it's an open standard as opposed to Flash.
Could someone explain the difference? It's touched on in Chamber's Blog
but not explicit enough for me . . .
Thanks
>From Mike Chamber's Blog...
http://www.markme.com/mesh/archives/001970.cfm
----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----
Author: Svee, Eric
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:23783#119500
I'm not clear how this is different than SVG--vector-based graphics
created from XML files that are also capable of being animated . . .
Plus, it's an open standard as opposed to Flash.
Could someone explain the difference? It's touched on in Chamber's Blog
but not explicit enough for me . . .
Thanks
From Mike Chamber's Blog...
http://www.markme.com/mesh/archives/001970.cfm
----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----
Author: Candace Cottrell
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:23783#119499
Cool. So from what Mike says here
"He showed a Flash based input form with multiple sections. He then
showed the code used to build it, which was written entirely in XML. Not
only was the entire Flash application created from the XML file, but so
was all of the databinding (SOAP Based), ActionScript and StyleSheets
(yes, Cascading Style Sheets)."
This means it'll be easiy to hook it to CF with the cfxml tag. (Which
is fast becoming my favorite new tag)
Candace K. Cottrell, Web Developer
The Children's Medical Center
One Children's Plaza
Dayton, OH 45404
937-641-4293
http://www.childrensdayton.org
cottrellc@childrensdayton.org
>>> dkml@supremegraphics.com 5/9/2003 11:55:52 AM >>>
From Mike Chamber's Blog...
http://www.markme.com/mesh/archives/001970.cfm
> To anyone not under NDA... what's up with Royale? I was hoping
someone
> could shed a little more light on the subject. Maybe compile all
known
> facts and rumors.
>
> Here is a short article on infoWorld titled "Interview: Macromedia
CEO
> discusses upcoming Royale tool". Yet they ask only one question
about
> Royale and don't get much of an answer.
>
> http://www.infoworld.com/article/03/05/08/HNburgessint_1.html
>
> Burgess also touches briefly on it during the recent Macromedia 4th
> Quarter report. Being that it's due to come out within about 6
months,
> there has got to be some more info about it.
>
> And for cf-talk argument # 4:
>
> IDGNS: And now to wrap up with a question pundits and analysts like
to
> ask companies with cutting-edge technology: When is Microsoft going
to
> acquire you?
>
> Burgess: We're good partners; we're not up for sale. There are
millions
----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----
Author: David K
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:23783#119496
From Mike Chamber's Blog...
http://www.markme.com/mesh/archives/001970.cfm
----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----
Author: Adrocknaphobia Jones
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:23783#119483
To anyone not under NDA... what's up with Royale? I was hoping someone
could shed a little more light on the subject. Maybe compile all known
facts and rumors.
Here is a short article on infoWorld titled "Interview: Macromedia CEO
discusses upcoming Royale tool". Yet they ask only one question about
Royale and don't get much of an answer.
http://www.infoworld.com/article/03/05/08/HNburgessint_1.html
Burgess also touches briefly on it during the recent Macromedia 4th
Quarter report. Being that it's due to come out within about 6 months,
there has got to be some more info about it.
And for cf-talk argument # 4:
IDGNS: And now to wrap up with a question pundits and analysts like to
ask companies with cutting-edge technology: When is Microsoft going to
acquire you?
Burgess: We're good partners; we're not up for sale. There are millions
of customers out there who want us to remain independent.
Adam Wayne Lehman
Web Systems Developer
Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health
Distance Education
Division
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