Survey: Open Source ColdFusion Stuff (was "Looking for Cold Fusion Forum similar to FuseTalk")

[I know that this may be considered off-topic - but then again it may be considered on-topic.  Anyway, it's the weekend and traffic is light...] My last post on this subject got me to thinking: why isn't there more CF Open source?  How do you guys approach the topic: 1) I won't place my code in OpenSource, it's mine and I should be paid for it!  Open-source is for hippies. 2) I might consider it, but all of my best stuff was written for clients and they own it. 3) I rarely do anything big or important enough to consider a release. 4) Almost everything I do is very specific to my (or my client's) business. 5) I would like to, but I don't have the time to manage a project. 6) I keep meaning too, but I never seem to find the time to convert my client-specific stuff to a generic version and write docs. 7) I already open source (or at least make available unencrypted copies of) at least some things.  (This would include submitting unencrypted files to the developer's exchange) 8) Everything is open-sourced!  The GPL adorns every file that leaves my workstation! 9) Something else? In general I find that most of time I fall in (6) and (7).  There's a lot I would like to make available, but very little time to "package" it for public consumption.  This is also why all of my "releases" have been small (custom tags, specific techniques, etc) - I may be proud of the big stuff but I just can't find the time put it in a nice wrapper. CF has hundreds and hundreds (and hundreds) of small things (tags, UDFs, CFCs, sample apps, etc) but VERY few large, full-featured apps available (although, oddly, we do have at least ten or so open app frameworks). Why don't we have many full-featured (and open) forums, CMSs, Blogs, Security systems, inventory managers, shopping carts, and so on?  We do have a LOT of parts for them - just very few complete ones. Why is that? Jim Davis

Hey Jim, I'd say I mainly fall into the "not enough time" camp, but I also do mainly custom applications for clients (so alot of what I do is not really geared for mass use as it's so specific). HTH Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. t. 250.920.8830 e. bryan@electricedgesystems.com --------------------------------------------------------- Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com --------------------------------------------------------- Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder & Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com   [I know that this may be considered off-topic - but then again it may be   considered on-topic.  Anyway, it's the weekend and traffic is light...]   My last post on this subject got me to thinking: why isn't there more CF   Open source?  How do you guys approach the topic:   1) I won't place my code in OpenSource, it's mine and I should be paid   for it!  Open-source is for hippies.   2) I might consider it, but all of my best stuff was written for clients   and they own it.   3) I rarely do anything big or important enough to consider a release.   4) Almost everything I do is very specific to my (or my client's)   business.   5) I would like to, but I don't have the time to manage a project.   6) I keep meaning too, but I never seem to find the time to convert my   client-specific stuff to a generic version and write docs.   7) I already open source (or at least make available unencrypted copies   of) at least some things.  (This would include submitting unencrypted   files to the developer's exchange)   8) Everything is open-sourced!  The GPL adorns every file that leaves my   workstation!   9) Something else?   In general I find that most of time I fall in (6) and (7).  There's a   lot I would like to make available, but very little time to "package" it   for public consumption.  This is also why all of my "releases" have been   small (custom tags, specific techniques, etc) - I may be proud of the   big stuff but I just can't find the time put it in a nice wrapper.   CF has hundreds and hundreds (and hundreds) of small things (tags, UDFs,   CFCs, sample apps, etc) but VERY few large, full-featured apps available   (although, oddly, we do have at least ten or so open app frameworks).   Why don't we have many full-featured (and open) forums, CMSs, Blogs,   Security systems, inventory managers, shopping carts, and so on?  We do   have a LOT of parts for them - just very few complete ones.   Why is that?   Jim Davis

How about setting up a little poll somewhere? Maybe even an Opensource one ^_^ hee hee -Gel My last post on this subject got me to thinking: why isn't there more CF Open source?  How do you guys approach the topic: 1) I won't place my code in OpenSource, it's mine and I should be paid for it!  Open-source is for hippies. 2) I might consider it, but all of my best stuff was written for clients and they own it. 3) I rarely do anything big or important enough to consider a release. 4) Almost everything I do is very specific to my (or my client's) business. 5) I would like to, but I don't have the time to manage a project. 6) I keep meaning too, but I never seem to find the time to convert my client-specific stuff to a generic version and write docs. 7) I already open source (or at least make available unencrypted copies of) at least some things.  (This would include submitting unencrypted files to the developer's exchange) 8) Everything is open-sourced!  The GPL adorns every file that leaves my workstation! 9) Something else?

#5...I'd be happy to contribute to a worthwhile project., but I dont have enough time (or project management experience) to dedicate to managing a project. Almost all of the successful open source projects have some kind of corporate sponsorship, even if the original source was developed for a specific business reason, then open sourced, or a corporation wants to take advantage of the free labor. FarCry, Mozilla, Linux, OpenOffice, MySQL, etc., all have corporations backing them in one way or another to help manage the direction of the project. Who in the CF world has the motivation to invest the resources necessary? Another barrier is that CF itself is closed source, and developers have no clear cut guarantee that the platform will exist in the future. Unlike with PHP where developers know it will exist, or .Net where developers know MS isn't going anywhere. -- mailto:jonhall@ozline.net Saturday, October 11, 2003, 1:55:14 PM, you wrote: JD> [I know that this may be considered off-topic - but then again it may be JD> considered on-topic.  Anyway, it's the weekend and traffic is light...] JD> My last post on this subject got me to thinking: why isn't there more CF JD> Open source?  How do you guys approach the topic: JD> 1) I won't place my code in OpenSource, it's mine and I should be paid JD> for it!  Open-source is for hippies. JD> 2) I might consider it, but all of my best stuff was written for clients JD> and they own it. JD> 3) I rarely do anything big or important enough to consider a release. JD> 4) Almost everything I do is very specific to my (or my client's) JD> business. JD> 5) I would like to, but I don't have the time to manage a project. JD> 6) I keep meaning too, but I never seem to find the time to convert my JD> client-specific stuff to a generic version and write docs. JD> 7) I already open source (or at least make available unencrypted copies JD> of) at least some things.  (This would include submitting unencrypted JD> files to the developer's exchange) JD> 8) Everything is open-sourced!  The GPL adorns every file that leaves my JD> workstation! JD> 9) Something else? JD> In general I find that most of time I fall in (6) and (7).  There's a JD> lot I would like to make available, but very little time to "package" it JD> for public consumption.  This is also why all of my "releases" have been JD> small (custom tags, specific techniques, etc) - I may be proud of the JD> big stuff but I just can't find the time put it in a nice wrapper. JD> CF has hundreds and hundreds (and hundreds) of small things (tags, UDFs, JD> CFCs, sample apps, etc) but VERY few large, full-featured apps available JD> (although, oddly, we do have at least ten or so open app frameworks). JD> Why don't we have many full-featured (and open) forums, CMSs, Blogs, JD> Security systems, inventory managers, shopping carts, and so on?  We do JD> have a LOT of parts for them - just very few complete ones. JD> Why is that? JD> Jim Davis JD>