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>>Re: I have the need to enter data from a lengthy data entry form, with 120 fields (many of them are Y/N fields). I am moving this to a web based data entry process, and want to know what ideas or strategies to keep in mind for developing an interface for such a lengthy form. Should I spread it over several data entry pages, and commit the information to the database upon the submission of each page? Should I just let it be a lengthy single data entry page? TIA Tim>> Hi...I am in the same predicament for converting a form to a web based form with a DB backend. Any suggestions on what tools to use? Also, someone mentioned NeuroMancer-What is it? I can't find anything on the search engines. Thanks! CF-Talk          28-Apr-04             Issue:966 In this issue:      Breaking Up Data Entry Form vs. leaving it long      Breaking Up Data Entry Form vs. leaving it long      CFMX 6.1 / IIS 6 custom 403.6 error      CFMX and FOP      CFMX and FOP      CFMX and FOP      CFX Java Classes      CFX Java Classes      Database Connection      Diagramming tools [OT]      Outputting html using coldfusion!?      Outputting html using coldfusion!?      Outputting html using coldfusion!?      Outputting html using coldfusion!?      Outputting html using coldfusion!?      Outputting html using coldfusion!?      sql question      sql question      sql question      sql question      sql question      sql question      Test if Secure Connection      Test if Secure Connection      Test if Secure Connection      Test if Secure Connection      Test if Secure Connection      Test if Secure Connection      Why am I not getting a comma-delimited list?      Why am I not getting a comma-delimited list?      Why am I not getting a comma-delimited list?      Why am I not getting a comma-delimited list?      Why am I not getting a comma-delimited list?      Why am I not getting a comma-delimited list?      Why am I not getting a comma-delimited list?      Why am I not getting a comma-delimited list?      Why am I not getting a comma-delimited list?      Why am I not getting a comma-delimited list?      Why am I not getting a comma-delimited list?      Why am I not getting a comma-delimited list?      Why am I not getting a comma-delimited list?      Why am I not getting a comma-delimited list?      Why am I not getting a comma-delimited list?      Why am I not getting a comma-delimited list? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Subject: Breaking Up Data Entry Form vs. leaving it long From: "Steve Nelson" <m@secretagents.com> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 22:29:07 -0400 Thread: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm/method=messages&threadid=321 51&forumid=4#161534 With 120 fields, I'd break it up to multiple pages. Primarily so that someone doesn't lose their work if something breaks half way through the process. But that's just personal opinion/experience there is not technical reason you couldn't have that many fields. If you do go the route of 120+ fields, you might consider the Client/Server JS gateway http://www.pengoworks.com/workshop/js/gateway/ With that, you could submit the individual field values as the user went from one field to another. All without changes pages. That way you could have a single page but treat it like a lot of little pages. Not my favorite solution, but it would work. Steve Nelson   _____ Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 11:50 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Breaking Up Data Entry Form vs. leaving it long I have the need to enter data from a lengthy data entry form, with 120 fields (many of them are Y/N fields). I am moving this to a web based data entry process, and want to know what ideas or strategies to keep in mind for developing an interface for such a lengthy form. Should I spread it over several data entry pages, and commit the information to the database upon the submission of each page? Should I just let it be a lengthy single data entry page? TIA Tim   _____   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Subject: Breaking Up Data Entry Form vs. leaving it long From: Thomas Chiverton <thomas.chiverton@bluefinger.com> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 10:04:29 +0100 Thread: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm/method=messages&threadid=321 51&forumid=4#161548 > fields, you might consider the Client/Server JS gateway > http://www.pengoworks.com/workshop/js/gateway/ With that, you could submit NeuroMancer is smaller, faster... -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer Tel: +44(0)1749 834997 email: tom.chiverton@bluefinger.com BlueFinger Limited Underwood Business Park Wookey Hole Road, WELLS. BA5 1AF Tel: +44 (0)1749 834900 Fax: +44 (0)1749 834901 web: www.bluefinger.com Company Reg No: 4209395 Registered Office: 2 Temple Back East, Temple Quay, BRISTOL. BS1 6EG. *** This E-mail contains confidential information for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately. You should not use, disclose, distribute or copy this communication if received in error. No binding contract will result from this e-mail until such time as a written document is signed on behalf of the company. BlueFinger Limited cannot accept responsibility for the completeness or accuracy of this message as it has been transmitted over public networks.*** ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Subject: CFMX 6.1 / IIS 6 custom 403.6 error From: "Miller, Michael R. C. (Annandale)" <millmrc@ispec.com> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 16:29:20 -0400 Thread: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm/method=messages&threadid=321 84&forumid=4#161509 Hi Fellow CF'ers, I'm building out a new app and server using Win2K3 and CFMX 6.1 and am having difficulty with the mechanism I've used successfully for years to collect and validate inbound requests to an IP address restricted site. I've have a custom 403.6 (IP address forbidden) cfm page that send me an email whenever a new IP address hits my site. This is configed via the IIS properties for the site. This has worked great on every version /combo of IIS and CF until I switched to Win2K3. Now despite the proper mapping (I've tried every IIS reconfiguration imaginable!)of the custom error to the url - I still get the default error message as invoked by the shdocloc.dll. I'm almost at the point where I'm considering changing the page coding to (gasp!) ASP... Anybody else doing anything similar? Note that this same CFM page works if it's a 404 error...Likely just an odd glitch with Win2K3 and the new security model... Michael ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Subject: CFMX and FOP From: me@robrohan.com Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 13:05:50 -0700 (PDT) Thread: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm/method=messages&threadid=321 83&forumid=4#161506 On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 15:55:19 -0400, "Whittingham, P" wrote: ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more ----- createObject("java","org.apache.fop.apps.Driver").init()/> ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more ----- It can, but it's a bit more involved then that. I have a custom tag called cfx_treebeard that'll do it for you. Since you sent me that cool email I'll give it to you if you want - when I get home.        O      CH3 H3C   ||     /    \ /   \   N     N     \/       |     |    //    //\   / \  //   O    N     N        |       CH3 http://treebeard.sourceforge.net http://ashpool.sourceforge.net ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Subject: CFMX and FOP From: Doug James <jamesd@musc.edu> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 16:04:28 -0400 Thread: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm/method=messages&threadid=321 83&forumid=4#161507 Patrick, I wish I could help with your question but please keep the list updated on your progress on getting pdf through FOP. Thanks! Doug Whittingham, P wrote: >Hi All, > >  Can cfmx create a pdf using fop with the following code??? Also, if yes, is cfmx apache web server a production server or what??? > ><cfset variables.driver = createObject("java","org.apache.fop.apps.Driver").init()/> ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more ----- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Subject: CFMX and FOP From: "Qasim Rasheed" <qasimrasheed@myrealbox.com> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 16:09:51 -0400 Thread: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm/method=messages&threadid=321 83&forumid=4#161508 This is a nice blog entry on this topic. Hope it helps you http://www.talkingtree.com/blog/index.cfm?data=20040322 Qasim Hi All,   Can cfmx create a pdf using fop with the following code??? Also, if yes, is cfmx apache web server a production server or what??? <cfset variables.driver = createObject("java","org.apache.fop.apps.Driver").init()/> <cfset variables.driver.setRenderer(Driver.RENDER_PDF)/> or <cfset variables.driver.setRenderer(Driver.RENDER_RTF)/> TIA, Patrick Whittingham United Space Alliance AES - Data Warehouse (321) 799-5918   _____   _____   _____   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Subject: CFX Java Classes From: Daryl Walsh <darylwalsh@ureach.com> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 18:20:08 -0400 Thread: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm/method=messages&threadid=321 88&forumid=4#161528 Anyone know of a way, or if it's even possible, to reload changes to a java class behind a CFX tag without resarting CF Server? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Subject: CFX Java Classes From: "Barney Boisvert" <lists@audiencecentral.com> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 15:26:47 -0700 Thread: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm/method=messages&threadid=321 88&forumid=4#161529 Jrun will accept an option that allows it to do so.  Check http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/ts/documents/tn18228.htm Under "Dynamic class reloading" about half way down Cheers, barneyb > Anyone know of a way, or if it's even possible, to reload > changes > to a java class behind a CFX tag without resarting CF Server? > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Subject: Database Connection From: Barbara Langston <barbara.a.langston1@jsc.nasa.gov> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 16:59:45 -0400 Thread: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm/method=messages&threadid=321 86&forumid=4#161519 I'm using Dreamweaver MX 2004 to connect to a remote CF server.  I've set up my site and can edit the CF code, but when I try to set up the RDS login information, I get this error:  The URL specified for this site's testing server may be incorrect, or the testing server may be incorrectly configured. I have entered the correct URL for my site, and I'm sure CF server is running.  I'm using an FTP setup for the site definition, which has one IP address, and the SQL Server has a different IP address.  How can I get this to work so I can take full advantage of Dreamweaver MX? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Subject: Diagramming tools [OT] From: me@robrohan.com Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 13:00:53 -0700 (PDT) Thread: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm/method=messages&threadid=321 77&forumid=4#161505 > >Nathan C. Smith wrote: > > > > > I'm looking for an inexpensive diagramming tool for ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more ----- I use Dia (on linux - works on windows now I think), and if you don't fear java argouml is pretty powerful (really good for java development works for other types as well but I like Dia is for non java projects) both are free and open source btw Dia: http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia/ argouml: http://argouml.tigris.org/        O      CH3 H3C   ||     /    \ /   \   N     N     \/       |     |    //    //\   / \  //   O    N     N        |       CH3 http://treebeard.sourceforge.net http://ashpool.sourceforge.net ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Subject: Outputting html using coldfusion!? From: Jordon Bedwell <jordonbedwell@coldfusionzone.com> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 03:03:25 -0400 Thread: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm/method=messages&threadid=321 89&forumid=4#161541 Ok.  I am used to php and i like to make dynamic teamplates.  I was wondering if there is a way i can output html using cfm.  Similer to $content on php! I have tried already and here is what I can up with, but its not working out right for me! Index.cfm <cfinclude template="Includes/Include.CFM"> <cfscript> writeOutput =('#$Start_Html#'); writeOutput =('#$Header_Info#'); </cfscript> include.cfm <cfinclude template="Start_Html.CFM"> <cfinclude template="Header_Info.CFM"> start_html.cfm <cfscript> $Start_Html = ('<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">;'); </cfscript> header_info.cfm <cfscript> $Header_Info = ('<head>'); $Header_Info = $Header_Info & ('Cybercom * . Com'); $Header_Info = $Header_Info & ('</head>'); </cfscript> I have this funny feeling im programming something wrong in index.  But who knows.  Im still a newbie and im trying to do advanced things (at least in my eyes they are)! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Subject: Outputting html using coldfusion!? From: "Paul Vernon" <paul.vernon@web-architect.co.uk> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 08:27:42 +0100 Thread: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm/method=messages&threadid=321 89&forumid=4#161542 There are much better ways of doing what you want to achieve but this fixes your code..... Paul Index.cfm <cfinclude template="Includes/Include.CFM"> <cfscript>     writeOutput =(Start_Html);     writeOutput =(Header_Info); </cfscript> include.cfm <cfinclude template="Start_Html.CFM"> <cfinclude template="Header_Info.CFM"> start_html.cfm <cfscript>     Start_Html = "<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC ""-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN"" ""http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd"">;"; </cfscript> header_info.cfm <cfscript>     Header_Info = "<head><title>Cybercom * . Com</title></head>"; </cfscript> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Subject: Outputting html using coldfusion!? From: "Pascal Peters" <ppeters@lrt.be> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 09:31:15 +0200 Thread: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm/method=messages&threadid=321 89&forumid=4#161543 CF is not script based but tag based. The logic is different: Index.cfm <cfinclude template="Includes/Include.cfm"> Include.cfm <cfinclude template="Start_Html.cfm"> <cfinclude template="Header_Info.cfm"> Start_Html.cfm <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">; Header_Info.cfm <head> Cybercom * . Com </head> A few more remarks: Variable names have to start with a letter and can only contain letters, digits and underscores (no $ allowed). In CFMX, you don't have to stick to that rule, but then you have to reference them differently. WriteOutput is a function, but you really don't need it. You can do <cfoutput>#var#</cfoutput>. You don't need parentheses when assignin values to a variable: <cfset var = "myvalue"> I would recommend purchasing a book on CF and reading it first. There is also a CF-newbie list on houseoffusion. The things you are trying to do are VERY basic. There is nothing advanced about it. Pascal Peters Certified ColdFusion MX Advanced Developer Macromedia Certified Instructor LR Technologies Av. E. De Mot, 19 1000 BRUSSELS, BELGIUM Tel: +32 2 639 68 70 Fax: +32 2 639 68 99 ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more ----- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Subject: Outputting html using coldfusion!? From: Stephen Moretti <stephen@cfmaster.co.uk> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 09:05:20 +0100 Thread: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm/method=messages&threadid=321 89&forumid=4#161544 ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more ----- Quick fix to Paul's code.  Probably an early morning typo ;) writeoutput(start_html); writeoutput(Header_Info); No equals sign required.   As Pascal said writeoutput is a function, so needs parameters passed rather than variables assigned. Also, you can throw away start_html.cfm and Header_Info.cfm and just put the two variable assignments for start_html and header_info directly into include.cfm. As both Pascal and Paul have said, what you are doing is not very complicated and the code you have here is massively over complicated.  I would suggest that not only do you get hold of a book on CF, but  I would also recommend looking to the various application development methods, such as fusebox, Mach-ii, black box etc. and either pick one or design your own to help ensure that you build well structured, efficient, managable web applications. All the best with learning CF. Regards Stephen ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Subject: Outputting html using coldfusion!? From: Jordon Bedwell <jordonbedwell@coldfusionzone.com> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 04:37:03 -0400 Thread: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm/method=messages&threadid=321 89&forumid=4#161546 Im doing this to create a template system for a site.  So that users can define a template they want and include specific variables. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Subject: Outputting html using coldfusion!? From: Thomas Chiverton <thomas.chiverton@bluefinger.com> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 09:50:49 +0100 Thread: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm/method=messages&threadid=321 89&forumid=4#161547 > I was > wondering if there is a way i can output html using cfm.   Output HTML with ColdFusion ? No, sorry can't be done :-) -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer Tel: +44(0)1749 834997 email: tom.chiverton@bluefinger.com BlueFinger Limited Underwood Business Park Wookey Hole Road, WELLS. BA5 1AF Tel: +44 (0)1749 834900 Fax: +44 (0)1749 834901 web: www.bluefinger.com Company Reg No: 4209395 Registered Office: 2 Temple Back East, Temple Quay, BRISTOL. BS1 6EG. *** This E-mail contains confidential information for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately. You should not use, disclose, distribute or copy this communication if received in error. No binding contract will result from this e-mail until such time as a written document is signed on behalf of the company. BlueFinger Limited cannot accept responsibility for the completeness or accuracy of this message as it has been transmitted over public networks.*** ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Subject: sql question From: "Tony Weeg" <tony@revolutionwebdesign.com> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 23:07:55 -0400 Thread: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm/method=messages&threadid=320 61&forumid=4#161535 select *, Datepart(m,eventDate) as myMonth from schedule s inner join scheduleEventType st on st.id = s.eventTypeId where myMonth = 1 order by eventDate this tells me that I have an invalid column, my month... how would I do this correctly so that I only get dates in january? thanks!! ....tony r e v o l u t i o n w e b d e s i g n tony@revolutionwebdesign.com www.revolutionwebdesign.com its only looks good to those who can see bad as well -anonymous ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Subject: sql question From: Phillip Beazley <pb-mls@onvix.com> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 23:12:47 -0400 Thread: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm/method=messages&threadid=320 61&forumid=4#161536 At 11:07 PM 4/27/2004, you wrote: ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more ----- Try this: select * from schedule s inner join scheduleEventType st on st.id = s.eventTypeId where Datepart('m', s.eventDate) = 1 order by eventDate -- Phillip Beazley Onvix -- Website Hosting, Development & E-commerce Visit http://www.onvix.com/ or call 727-578-9600. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Subject: sql question From: "Tony Weeg" <tony@navtrak.net> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 23:15:56 -0400 Thread: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm/method=messages&threadid=320 61&forumid=4#161537 gratzie, phil. ....tony Tony Weeg sr. web applications architect navtrak, inc. tony@navtrak.net 410.548.2337 www.navtrak.net At 11:07 PM 4/27/2004, you wrote: ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more ----- Try this: select * from schedule s inner join scheduleEventType st on st.id = s.eventTypeId where Datepart('m', s.eventDate) = 1 order by eventDate -- Phillip Beazley Onvix -- Website Hosting, Development & E-commerce Visit http://www.onvix.com/ or call 727-578-9600. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Subject: sql question From: "Samuel R. Neff" <srnlists@speakeasy.net> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 23:18:44 -0400 Thread: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm/method=messages&threadid=320 61&forumid=4#161538 select *, Datepart(m,eventDate) as myMonth from schedule s inner join scheduleEventType st on st.id = s.eventTypeId where Datepart(m,eventDate) = 1 order by eventDate ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more ----- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Subject: sql question From: "Tony Weeg" <tony@navtrak.net> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 23:21:29 -0400 Thread: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm/method=messages&threadid=320 61&forumid=4#161539 that'll work too, but truth be told, I really don't need the myMonth column name, with the where clause as it is...thanks tho' ....tony Tony Weeg sr. web applications architect navtrak, inc. tony@navtrak.net 410.548.2337 www.navtrak.net select *, Datepart(m,eventDate) as myMonth from schedule s inner join scheduleEventType st on st.id = s.eventTypeId where Datepart(m,eventDate) = 1 order by eventDate ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more ----- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Subject: sql question From: Phillip Beazley <pb-mls@onvix.com> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 23:21:34 -0400 Thread: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm/method=messages&threadid=320 61&forumid=4#161540 At 11:15 PM 4/27/2004, you wrote: >gratzie, phil. De nada... -- Phillip Beazley Onvix -- Website Hosting, Development & E-commerce Visit http://www.onvix.com/ or call 727-578-9600. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Subject: Test if Secure Connection From: "Westin, Ken" <west7202@pacificu.edu> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 14:05:41 -0700 Thread: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm/method=messages&threadid=321 87&forumid=4#161521 Is there a way to test if a connection is secure running CFMX on Linux using Apache? Thanks - Ken ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Subject: Test if Secure Connection From: Shawn Regan <ShawnR@pts1.com> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 14:14:57 -0700 Thread: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm/method=messages&threadid=321 87&forumid=4#161524 Are you talking SSL? Shawn Is there a way to test if a connection is secure running CFMX on Linux using Apache? Thanks - Ken   _____   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Subject: Test if Secure Connection From: "Westin, Ken" <west7202@pacificu.edu> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 17:03:36 -0700 Thread: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm/method=messages&threadid=321 87&forumid=4#161530 Yes I am talking SSL and Doh! I just answered my own question, there are two ways I discovered: 1. CGI.Secure - On Apache it returns null if it is not secure and "on" if it is 2. CGI.PORT - In most cases if it is 443 it is secure I should probably check my books before I ask the list. Sorry folks, but hey if anyone else was wondering there you go. Subject: Test if Secure Connection From: Shawn Regan <ShawnR@pts1.com> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 14:14:57 -0700 Thread: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm/method=messages&threadid =32187&forumid=4#161524 Are you talking SSL? Shawn ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Subject: Test if Secure Connection From: "Cameron Childress" <cameronc@mindspring.com> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 18:21:28 -0700 Thread: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm/method=messages&threadid=321 87&forumid=4#161531 > 2. CGI.PORT - In most cases if it is 443 it is secure Most but not all.  I would not use this as a definitive test. -Cameron ----------------- Cameron Childress Sumo Consulting Inc http://www.sumoc.com --- land:  858.509.3098 cell:  678.637.5072 aim:   cameroncf email: cameronc@mindspring.com Yes I am talking SSL and Doh! I just answered my own question, there are two ways I discovered: 1. CGI.Secure - On Apache it returns null if it is not secure and "on" if it is 2. CGI.PORT - In most cases if it is 443 it is secure I should probably check my books before I ask the list. Sorry folks, but hey if anyone else was wondering there you go. Subject: Test if Secure Connection From: Shawn Regan <ShawnR@pts1.com> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 14:14:57 -0700 Thread: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm/method=messages&threadid =32187&forumid=4#161524 Are you talking SSL? Shawn ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Subject: Test if Secure Connection From: "Barney Boisvert" <lists@audiencecentral.com> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 18:36:51 -0700 Thread: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm/method=messages&threadid=321 87&forumid=4#161532 If you control the server, then you can configure it to only accept HTTPS on port 443, thereby making the test definitive.  Not going to work if you're distributing the app, but if you control hosting then you're set. Cheers, barneyb > Subject: RE: Test if Secure

Were the 1,400 lines of entirely unrelated text really necessary to ask this question?  Between this and the replies, there were around 14,000 lines of unrelated text used to accomplish about 10 lines of conversation.  I'm not one to normally complain about netiquette,  but this is a little on the crazy side of inconsiderate (thunderbird, for one, crashed about 3 times trying to read or reply to this digest which had these 10 other digests included in it) sighing, -Jeff ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more ----- <*entire included (and entirely unrelated) digest snipped*>

I've added a new feature to the list to bounce any post over 100 lines. This should prevent people from accidently posting digests or replies of replies of replies, etc. As for the post that started this, I'll have it cleaned next. Lets drop it now. Thanks