Email Problem

Has anyone been able to get CF to create the headers that will tell Outlook to send a Read receipt or even a Delivery Receipt (server side)? I am using the following parameters but not working. I have outlook set to ask for return receipts and I get nothing. <CFMAILPARAM name="X-RCPT-TO" value="myemail@mail.com"> <CFMAILPARAM name="Return-receipt-TO" value="myemail@mail.com">

Check out this blog entry: http://www.sitepoint.com/blog-post-view.php?id=164671 Has anyone been able to get CF to create the headers that will tell Outlook to send a Read receipt or even a Delivery Receipt (server side)? I am using the following parameters but not working. I have outlook set to ask for return receipts and I get nothing. <CFMAILPARAM name="X-RCPT-TO" value="myemail@mail.com"> <CFMAILPARAM name="Return-receipt-TO" value="myemail@mail.com">

Tyrone, I tried the code below but I do not get any receipts.  Am I doing something incorrect? <cfmail to=" mario.ciliotta@csfb.com <mailto:mario.ciliotta@csfb.com> " from="Mario< mario.ciliotta@csfb.com <mailto:mario.ciliotta@csfb.com> >" subject="This is only a test......" type="html" server="myemailserver"> <cfmailParam name="Reply-To" value=" mario.ciliotta@csfb.com <mailto:mario.ciliotta@csfb.com> "> <cfmailparam name="Read-Receipt-To" value=" mario.ciliotta@csfb.com <mailto:mario.ciliotta@csfb.com> "> <cfmailparam name="Disposition-Notification-To" value=" mario.ciliotta@csfb.com <mailto:mario.ciliotta@csfb.com> "> <cfmailParam name="X-Priority" value="1">      Test of Outlook Options </cfmail> I tried it on my older 4.5 box and on my MX box but no luck.  I actually need to add this to app that I am working on and I would love to see it work. Thanks Mario Check out this blog entry: http://www.sitepoint.com/blog-post-view.php?id=164671 Has anyone been able to get CF to create the headers that will tell Outlook to send a Read receipt or even a Delivery Receipt (server side)? I am using the following parameters but not working. I have outlook set to ask for return receipts and I get nothing. <CFMAILPARAM name="X-RCPT-TO" value="myemail@mail.com"> <CFMAILPARAM name="Return-receipt-TO" value="myemail@mail.com">   _____  

I tried the exact code from the blog (changed the email address of course) but no receipts :-( Not sure if it is an mail server issue or something. Tyrone, I tried the code below but I do not get any receipts.  Am I doing something incorrect? <cfmail to=" mario.ciliotta@csfb.com <mailto:mario.ciliotta@csfb.com> " from="Mario< mario.ciliotta@csfb.com <mailto:mario.ciliotta@csfb.com> >" subject="This is only a test......" type="html" server="myemailserver"> <cfmailParam name="Reply-To" value=" mario.ciliotta@csfb.com <mailto:mario.ciliotta@csfb.com> "> <cfmailparam name="Read-Receipt-To" value=" mario.ciliotta@csfb.com <mailto:mario.ciliotta@csfb.com> "> <cfmailparam name="Disposition-Notification-To" value=" mario.ciliotta@csfb.com <mailto:mario.ciliotta@csfb.com> "> <cfmailParam name="X-Priority" value="1">      Test of Outlook Options </cfmail> I tried it on my older 4.5 box and on my MX box but no luck.  I actually need to add this to app that I am working on and I would love to see it work. Thanks Mario Check out this blog entry: http://www.sitepoint.com/blog-post-view.php?id=164671 Has anyone been able to get CF to create the headers that will tell Outlook to send a Read receipt or even a Delivery Receipt (server side)? I am using the following parameters but not working. I have outlook set to ask for return receipts and I get nothing. <CFMAILPARAM name="X-RCPT-TO" value="myemail@mail.com"> <CFMAILPARAM name="Return-receipt-TO" value="myemail@mail.com">   _____   _____  

Will it allow you to send a read receipt to yourself?  Do you get the email at all?  View the headers on that email and then send yourself an email with a read receipt and look at the headers on that one.  Compare the two and see if you can find the problem that way. I tried the exact code from the blog (changed the email address of course) but no receipts :-( Not sure if it is an mail server issue or something. Tyrone, I tried the code below but I do not get any receipts.  Am I doing something incorrect? <cfmail to=" mario.ciliotta@csfb.com <mailto:mario.ciliotta@csfb.com> " from="Mario< mario.ciliotta@csfb.com <mailto:mario.ciliotta@csfb.com> >" subject="This is only a test......" type="html" server="myemailserver"> <cfmailParam name="Reply-To" value=" mario.ciliotta@csfb.com <mailto:mario.ciliotta@csfb.com> "> <cfmailparam name="Read-Receipt-To" value=" mario.ciliotta@csfb.com <mailto:mario.ciliotta@csfb.com> "> <cfmailparam name="Disposition-Notification-To" value=" mario.ciliotta@csfb.com <mailto:mario.ciliotta@csfb.com> "> <cfmailParam name="X-Priority" value="1">      Test of Outlook Options </cfmail> I tried it on my older 4.5 box and on my MX box but no luck.  I actually need to add this to app that I am working on and I would love to see it work. Thanks Mario Check out this blog entry: http://www.sitepoint.com/blog-post-view.php?id=164671 Has anyone been able to get CF to create the headers that will tell Outlook to send a Read receipt or even a Delivery Receipt (server side)? I am using the following parameters but not working. I have outlook set to ask for return receipts and I get nothing. <CFMAILPARAM name="X-RCPT-TO" value="myemail@mail.com"> <CFMAILPARAM name="Return-receipt-TO" value="myemail@mail.com">   _____   _____  

If I use Outlook and compose a message to myself with Return Receipt selected, yes, I get the email as well as the notice about the receipt. If I use CF to send the email, I get the email, but nothing in regards to the return receipt. Both emails have the same Disposition-notification-to: randy_adkins@sra.com <mailto:randy_adkins@sra.com> Return-receipt-to: randy_adkins@sra.com <mailto:randy_adkins@sra.com> This should be the same that is in RFC 822. Does capitalizations make a difference?? Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 1:41 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Email Problem Will it allow you to send a read receipt to yourself?  Do you get the email at all?  View the headers on that email and then send yourself an email with a read receipt and look at the headers on that one.  Compare the two and see if you can find the problem that way. I tried the exact code from the blog (changed the email address of course) but no receipts :-( Not sure if it is an mail server issue or something. Tyrone, I tried the code below but I do not get any receipts.  Am I doing something incorrect? <cfmail to=" mario.ciliotta@csfb.com <mailto:mario.ciliotta@csfb.com> " from="Mario< mario.ciliotta@csfb.com <mailto:mario.ciliotta@csfb.com> >" subject="This is only a test......" type="html" server="myemailserver"> <cfmailParam name="Reply-To" value=" mario.ciliotta@csfb.com <mailto:mario.ciliotta@csfb.com> "> <cfmailparam name="Read-Receipt-To" value=" mario.ciliotta@csfb.com <mailto:mario.ciliotta@csfb.com> "> <cfmailparam name="Disposition-Notification-To" value=" mario.ciliotta@csfb.com <mailto:mario.ciliotta@csfb.com> "> <cfmailParam name="X-Priority" value="1">      Test of Outlook Options </cfmail> I tried it on my older 4.5 box and on my MX box but no luck.  I actually need to add this to app that I am working on and I would love to see it work. Thanks Mario Check out this blog entry: http://www.sitepoint.com/blog-post-view.php?id=164671 Has anyone been able to get CF to create the headers that will tell Outlook to send a Read receipt or even a Delivery Receipt (server side)? I am using the following parameters but not working. I have outlook set to ask for return receipts and I get nothing. <CFMAILPARAM name="X-RCPT-TO" value="myemail@mail.com"> <CFMAILPARAM name="Return-receipt-TO" value="myemail@mail.com">   _____   _____   _____  

I am having the same issues: I can set the Priority and the Reply-To but I do not get any receipts.  Anyone have any ideas on this. Thanks Mario If I use Outlook and compose a message to myself with Return Receipt selected, yes, I get the email as well as the notice about the receipt. If I use CF to send the email, I get the email, but nothing in regards to the return receipt. Both emails have the same Disposition-notification-to: randy_adkins@sra.com <mailto:randy_adkins@sra.com> Return-receipt-to: randy_adkins@sra.com <mailto:randy_adkins@sra.com> This should be the same that is in RFC 822. Does capitalizations make a difference?? Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 1:41 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Email Problem Will it allow you to send a read receipt to yourself?  Do you get the email at all?  View the headers on that email and then send yourself an email with a read receipt and look at the headers on that one.  Compare the two and see if you can find the problem that way. I tried the exact code from the blog (changed the email address of course) but no receipts :-( Not sure if it is an mail server issue or something. Tyrone, I tried the code below but I do not get any receipts.  Am I doing something incorrect? <cfmail to=" mario.ciliotta@csfb.com <mailto:mario.ciliotta@csfb.com> " from="Mario< mario.ciliotta@csfb.com <mailto:mario.ciliotta@csfb.com> >" subject="This is only a test......" type="html" server="myemailserver"> <cfmailParam name="Reply-To" value=" mario.ciliotta@csfb.com <mailto:mario.ciliotta@csfb.com> "> <cfmailparam name="Read-Receipt-To" value=" mario.ciliotta@csfb.com <mailto:mario.ciliotta@csfb.com> "> <cfmailparam name="Disposition-Notification-To" value=" mario.ciliotta@csfb.com <mailto:mario.ciliotta@csfb.com> "> <cfmailParam name="X-Priority" value="1">      Test of Outlook Options </cfmail> I tried it on my older 4.5 box and on my MX box but no luck.  I actually need to add this to app that I am working on and I would love to see it work. Thanks Mario Check out this blog entry: http://www.sitepoint.com/blog-post-view.php?id=164671 Has anyone been able to get CF to create the headers that will tell Outlook to send a Read receipt or even a Delivery Receipt (server side)? I am using the following parameters but not working. I have outlook set to ask for return receipts and I get nothing. <CFMAILPARAM name="X-RCPT-TO" value="myemail@mail.com"> <CFMAILPARAM name="Return-receipt-TO" value="myemail@mail.com">   _____   _____   _____   _____  

It might.  Try to get CF to mirror the headers that outlook creates exactly.  That's the best way to find your mistakes and figure out how to make it work. John If I use Outlook and compose a message to myself with Return Receipt selected, yes, I get the email as well as the notice about the receipt. If I use CF to send the email, I get the email, but nothing in regards to the return receipt. Both emails have the same Disposition-notification-to: randy_adkins@sra.com <mailto:randy_adkins@sra.com> Return-receipt-to: randy_adkins@sra.com <mailto:randy_adkins@sra.com> This should be the same that is in RFC 822. Does capitalizations make a difference?? Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 1:41 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Email Problem Will it allow you to send a read receipt to yourself?  Do you get the email at all?  View the headers on that email and then send yourself an email with a read receipt and look at the headers on that one.  Compare the two and see if you can find the problem that way. I tried the exact code from the blog (changed the email address of course) but no receipts :-( Not sure if it is an mail server issue or something. Tyrone, I tried the code below but I do not get any receipts.  Am I doing something incorrect? <cfmail to=" mario.ciliotta@csfb.com <mailto:mario.ciliotta@csfb.com> " from="Mario< mario.ciliotta@csfb.com <mailto:mario.ciliotta@csfb.com> >" subject="This is only a test......" type="html" server="myemailserver"> <cfmailParam name="Reply-To" value=" mario.ciliotta@csfb.com <mailto:mario.ciliotta@csfb.com> "> <cfmailparam name="Read-Receipt-To" value=" mario.ciliotta@csfb.com <mailto:mario.ciliotta@csfb.com> "> <cfmailparam name="Disposition-Notification-To" value=" mario.ciliotta@csfb.com <mailto:mario.ciliotta@csfb.com> "> <cfmailParam name="X-Priority" value="1">      Test of Outlook Options </cfmail> I tried it on my older 4.5 box and on my MX box but no luck.  I actually need to add this to app that I am working on and I would love to see it work. Thanks Mario Check out this blog entry: http://www.sitepoint.com/blog-post-view.php?id=164671 Has anyone been able to get CF to create the headers that will tell Outlook to send a Read receipt or even a Delivery Receipt (server side)? I am using the following parameters but not working. I have outlook set to ask for return receipts and I get nothing. <CFMAILPARAM name="X-RCPT-TO" value="myemail@mail.com"> <CFMAILPARAM name="Return-receipt-TO" value="myemail@mail.com">   _____   _____   _____  

If I use Outlook and compose a message to myself with Return Receipt selected, yes, I get the email as well as the notice about the receipt. If I use CF to send the email, I get the email, but nothing in regards to the return receipt. Both emails have the same Disposition-notification-to: randy_adkins@sra.com Return-receipt-to: randy_adkins@sra.com This should be the same that is in RFC 822. Does capitalizations make a difference?? Randy Adkins Senior Systems Engineer SRA International, Inc <<Adkins, Randy.vcf>>

I am having the same issues: I can set the Priority and the Reply-To but I do not get any receipts. Anyone have any ideas on this. Thanks Mario If I use Outlook and compose a message to myself with Return Receipt selected, yes, I get the email as well as the notice about the receipt. If I use CF to send the email, I get the email, but nothing in regards to the return receipt. Both emails have the same Disposition-notification-to: randy_adkins@sra.com <mailto:randy_adkins@sra.com> Return-receipt-to: randy_adkins@sra.com <mailto:randy_adkins@sra.com> This should be the same that is in RFC 822. Does capitalizations make a difference?? Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 1:41 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Email Problem Will it allow you to send a read receipt to yourself?  Do you get the email at all?  View the headers on that email and then send yourself an email with a read receipt and look at the headers on that one.  Compare the two and see if you can find the problem that way. I tried the exact code from the blog (changed the email address of course) but no receipts :-( Not sure if it is an mail server issue or something. Tyrone, I tried the code below but I do not get any receipts.  Am I doing something incorrect? <cfmail to=" mario.ciliotta@csfb.com <mailto:mario.ciliotta@csfb.com> " from="Mario< mario.ciliotta@csfb.com <mailto:mario.ciliotta@csfb.com> >" subject="This is only a test......" type="html" server="myemailserver"> <cfmailParam name="Reply-To" value=" mario.ciliotta@csfb.com <mailto:mario.ciliotta@csfb.com> "> <cfmailparam name="Read-Receipt-To" value=" mario.ciliotta@csfb.com <mailto:mario.ciliotta@csfb.com> "> <cfmailparam name="Disposition-Notification-To" value=" mario.ciliotta@csfb.com <mailto:mario.ciliotta@csfb.com> "> <cfmailParam name="X-Priority" value="1">      Test of Outlook Options </cfmail> I tried it on my older 4.5 box and on my MX box but no luck.  I actually need to add this to app that I am working on and I would love to see it work. Thanks Mario

Works great for me--CFMX 6.1 on Win2K/IIS5, Exchange 2K, Outlook 2K. Chris

Need help, send code. Works great for me--CFMX 6.1 on Win2K/IIS5, Exchange 2K, Outlook 2K. Chris   _____  

I have Outlook 2000, Exchange Server 5.5, W2K/IIS5 and CF5 and not able to return receipts. Works great for me--CFMX 6.1 on Win2K/IIS5, Exchange 2K, Outlook 2K. Chris   _____  

<CFMAIL TO=" <mailto:randy_adkins@sra.com> randy_adkins@sra.com"   FROM= "  <mailto:randy_adkins@sra.com> randy_adkins@sra.com"   SUBJECT="Need your help"   SERVER="mail.mindkeeper.net">   <CFMAILPARAM name="Disposition-Notification-To" value=" <mailto:randy_adkins@sra.com> randy_adkins@sra.com">   <cfmailparam name="Return-Receipt-To" value=" <mailto:randy_adkins@sra.com> randy_adkins@sra.com"> Were you prompted for a return receipt or by chance do you have return receipts automatically generated? </CFMAIL>

I copied the code from Andrew Tyrone's blog and used my own email addresses: <cfmail to="you@myplace" from="me@myplace.com" subject="Read receipt test">   <cfmailparam name="Read-Receipt-To" value="me@myplace.com">   <cfmailparam name="Disposition-Notification-To" value="me@myplace.com"> This is a test for read receipts.  Did it work? </cfmail> Chris Need help, send code. Works great for me--CFMX 6.1 on Win2K/IIS5, Exchange 2K, Outlook 2K. Chris    _____

Chris, That's actually David Medlock's blog; I just found it on Google. Andy I copied the code from Andrew Tyrone's blog and used my own email addresses: <cfmail to="you@myplace" from="me@myplace.com" subject="Read receipt test"> <cfmailparam name="Read-Receipt-To" value="me@myplace.com"> <cfmailparam name="Disposition-Notification-To" value="me@myplace.com"> This is a test for read receipts.  Did it work? </cfmail> Chris

Here is my code: <cfmail to=" mario.ciliotta@csfb.com <mailto:mario.ciliotta@csfb.com> " from="Mario< web.auditor@csfb.com <mailto:web.auditor@csfb.com> >" subject="This is only a test......" type="html" SERVER="xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"> <cfmailParam name="Reply-To" value=" web.auditor@csfb.com <mailto:web.auditor@csfb.com> "> <cfmailparam name="Read-Receipt-To" value=" web.auditor@csfb.com <mailto:web.auditor@csfb.com> "> <cfmailparam name="Disposition-Notification-To" value=" web.auditor@csfb.com <mailto:web.auditor@csfb.com> "> <cfmailParam name="X-Priority" value="1"> <cfmailparam name="Return-Receipt-To" value=" web.auditor@csfb.com <mailto:web.auditor@csfb.com> ">      Test of Outlook Options </cfmail> Need help, send code. Works great for me--CFMX 6.1 on Win2K/IIS5, Exchange 2K, Outlook 2K. Chris   _____   _____  

I didn't see the "mailto:" tags in the sample on the blog.  Are they the problem? I didn't use them and my code worked... Chris <CFMAIL TO=" <mailto:randy_adkins@sra.com> randy_adkins@sra.com"   FROM= "  <mailto:randy_adkins@sra.com> randy_adkins@sra.com"   SUBJECT="Need your help"   SERVER="mail.mindkeeper.net">   <CFMAILPARAM name="Disposition-Notification-To" value=" <mailto:randy_adkins@sra.com> randy_adkins@sra.com">   <cfmailparam name="Return-Receipt-To" value=" <mailto:randy_adkins@sra.com> randy_adkins@sra.com"> Were you prompted for a return receipt or by chance do you have return receipts automatically generated? </CFMAIL>

I tried with and without the mailto tags and I still do not receive the receipts. Mario I didn't see the "mailto:" tags in the sample on the blog.  Are they the problem?  I didn't use them and my code worked... Chris <CFMAIL TO=" <mailto:randy_adkins@sra.com> randy_adkins@sra.com"   FROM= "  <mailto:randy_adkins@sra.com> randy_adkins@sra.com"   SUBJECT="Need your help"   SERVER="mail.mindkeeper.net">   <CFMAILPARAM name="Disposition-Notification-To" value=" <mailto:randy_adkins@sra.com> randy_adkins@sra.com">   <cfmailparam name="Return-Receipt-To" value=" <mailto:randy_adkins@sra.com> randy_adkins@sra.com"> Were you prompted for a return receipt or by chance do you have return receipts automatically generated? </CFMAIL>   _____  

> Were you prompted for a return receipt > or by chance do you have return receipts automatically generated? There was no prompt.  We do not get read receipts automatically.  We must manually ask for one when sending messages via Outlook. Chris

Mine seems to be the same. Could it be an Outlook setting:  If I send the email thru Outlook to myself, I will receive all the receipts but if I send it thru CF, I only get the delivered receipt, no read or deleted receipt. We do not get read receipts automatically.  We must manually ask for one when sending messages via Outlook. Mario > Were you prompted for a return receipt > or by chance do you have return receipts automatically generated? There was no prompt.  We do not get read receipts automatically.  We must manually ask for one when sending messages via Outlook. Chris   _____  

Well, I don't know then.  Maybe it's an Exchange or Outlook config issue?  I'm not a mail admin so I don't know what gotchas to look for.  Sorry! Chris I tried with and without the mailto tags and I still do not receive the receipts. Mario I didn't see the "mailto:" tags in the sample on the blog.  Are they the problem?  I didn't use them and my code worked... Chris <CFMAIL TO=" <mailto:randy_adkins@sra.com> randy_adkins@sra.com"   FROM= "  <mailto:randy_adkins@sra.com> randy_adkins@sra.com"   SUBJECT="Need your help"   SERVER="mail.mindkeeper.net">   <CFMAILPARAM name="Disposition-Notification-To" value=" <mailto:randy_adkins@sra.com> randy_adkins@sra.com">   <cfmailparam name="Return-Receipt-To" value=" <mailto:randy_adkins@sra.com> randy_adkins@sra.com"> Were you prompted for a return receipt or by chance do you have return receipts automatically generated? </CFMAIL>    _____

It also might be a firewall issue; I know that our Firebox is set to strip certain mail headers, which is why I get read receipts through my personal email account but never from my work account. Andy Well, I don't know then.  Maybe it's an Exchange or Outlook config issue? I'm not a mail admin so I don't know what gotchas to look for.  Sorry! Chris I tried with and without the mailto tags and I still do not receive the receipts. Mario I didn't see the "mailto:" tags in the sample on the blog.  Are they the problem?  I didn't use them and my code worked... Chris <CFMAIL TO=" <mailto:randy_adkins@sra.com> randy_adkins@sra.com"   FROM= "  <mailto:randy_adkins@sra.com> randy_adkins@sra.com"   SUBJECT="Need your help"   SERVER="mail.mindkeeper.net">   <CFMAILPARAM name="Disposition-Notification-To" value=" <mailto:randy_adkins@sra.com> randy_adkins@sra.com">   <cfmailparam name="Return-Receipt-To" value=" <mailto:randy_adkins@sra.com> randy_adkins@sra.com"> Were you prompted for a return receipt or by chance do you have return receipts automatically generated? </CFMAIL>

Yep, sorry.  I should have said "the blog Andrew Tyrone mentioned".  :) Chris Chris, That's actually David Medlock's blog; I just found it on Google. Andy I copied the code from Andrew Tyrone's blog and used my own email addresses: <cfmail to="you@myplace" from="me@myplace.com" subject="Read receipt test"> <cfmailparam name="Read-Receipt-To" value="me@myplace.com"> <cfmailparam name="Disposition-Notification-To" value="me@myplace.com"> This is a test for read receipts.  Did it work? </cfmail> Chris

You can change it so that outlook thinks that the sender was outlook and not CF.  That would fix that.  That's why I suggested to try to set all of the mail params that you see in a normal outlook message that works properly. John Mine seems to be the same. Could it be an Outlook setting:  If I send the email thru Outlook to myself, I will receive all the receipts but if I send it thru CF, I only get the delivered receipt, no read or deleted receipt. We do not get read receipts automatically.  We must manually ask for one when sending messages via Outlook. Mario > Were you prompted for a return receipt or by chance do you have return > receipts automatically generated? There was no prompt.  We do not get read receipts automatically.  We must manually ask for one when sending messages via Outlook. Chris   _____  

How do you trick it to think Outlook was the sender??? Mario You can change it so that outlook thinks that the sender was outlook and not CF.  That would fix that.  That's why I suggested to try to set all of the mail params that you see in a normal outlook message that works properly. John Mine seems to be the same. Could it be an Outlook setting:  If I send the email thru Outlook to myself, I will receive all the receipts but if I send it thru CF, I only get the delivered receipt, no read or deleted receipt. We do not get read receipts automatically.  We must manually ask for one when sending messages via Outlook. Mario > Were you prompted for a return receipt or by chance do you have return > receipts automatically generated? There was no prompt.  We do not get read receipts automatically.  We must manually ask for one when sending messages via Outlook. Chris   _____   _____  

Essentially set the X-Mailer using <cfmailparam>  Look at the headers on an email that works correctly.  Whatever headers you see in there that are different from the one you send using CF, set (or change) the params using <cfmailparam>.  Now, some spam filters or mail clients are smart enough to ignore certain headers that exist without other headers. That's why I recommend trying to create an email sent from CF that looks exactly the same as the email sent from outlook (minus the message ID and other unique features) John Burns How do you trick it to think Outlook was the sender??? Mario You can change it so that outlook thinks that the sender was outlook and not CF.  That would fix that.  That's why I suggested to try to set all of the mail params that you see in a normal outlook message that works properly. John Mine seems to be the same. Could it be an Outlook setting:  If I send the email thru Outlook to myself, I will receive all the receipts but if I send it thru CF, I only get the delivered receipt, no read or deleted receipt. We do not get read receipts automatically.  We must manually ask for one when sending messages via Outlook. Mario > Were you prompted for a return receipt or by chance do you have return > receipts automatically generated? There was no prompt.  We do not get read receipts automatically.  We must manually ask for one when sending messages via Outlook. Chris   _____   _____  

John, I just spoke the email support guys here and this is what they told me: "Our Exchange IMC's Strip it.. Only email sent directly from Outlook and do it - Email from apps cannot"  There is a way to do it but they will not tell. Mario Essentially set the X-Mailer using <cfmailparam>  Look at the headers on an email that works correctly.  Whatever headers you see in there that are different from the one you send using CF, set (or change) the params using <cfmailparam>.  Now, some spam filters or mail clients are smart enough to ignore certain headers that exist without other headers. That's why I recommend trying to create an email sent from CF that looks exactly the same as the email sent from outlook (minus the message ID and other unique features) John Burns How do you trick it to think Outlook was the sender??? Mario You can change it so that outlook thinks that the sender was outlook and not CF.  That would fix that.  That's why I suggested to try to set all of the mail params that you see in a normal outlook message that works properly. John Mine seems to be the same. Could it be an Outlook setting:  If I send the email thru Outlook to myself, I will receive all the receipts but if I send it thru CF, I only get the delivered receipt, no read or deleted receipt. We do not get read receipts automatically.  We must manually ask for one when sending messages via Outlook. Mario > Were you prompted for a return receipt or by chance do you have return > receipts automatically generated? There was no prompt.  We do not get read receipts automatically.  We must manually ask for one when sending messages via Outlook. Chris   _____   _____   _____  

napoleon complex. mr small penis man... mr nazi sysadmin wow...arent geeks with ego issues GREAT! John, I just spoke the email support guys here and this is what they told me: "Our Exchange IMC's Strip it.. Only email sent directly from Outlook and do it - Email from apps cannot"  There is a way to do it but they will not tell. Mario Essentially set the X-Mailer using <cfmailparam>  Look at the headers on an email that works correctly.  Whatever headers you see in there that are different from the one you send using CF, set (or change) the params using <cfmailparam>.  Now, some spam filters or mail clients are smart enough to ignore certain headers that exist without other headers. That's why I recommend trying to create an email sent from CF that looks exactly the same as the email sent from outlook (minus the message ID and other unique features) John Burns How do you trick it to think Outlook was the sender??? Mario You can change it so that outlook thinks that the sender was outlook and not CF.  That would fix that.  That's why I suggested to try to set all of the mail params that you see in a normal outlook message that works properly. John Mine seems to be the same. Could it be an Outlook setting:  If I send the email thru Outlook to myself, I will receive all the receipts but if I send it thru CF, I only get the delivered receipt, no read or deleted receipt. We do not get read receipts automatically.  We must manually ask for one when sending messages via Outlook. Mario > Were you prompted for a return receipt or by chance do you have return > receipts automatically generated? There was no prompt.  We do not get read receipts automatically.  We must manually ask for one when sending messages via Outlook. Chris   _____   _____   _____  

Are you saying Exchange strips the X-Mailer attribute?  If you set the X-Mailer attribute to spoof outlook, then wouldn't it allow it? John John, I just spoke the email support guys here and this is what they told me: "Our Exchange IMC's Strip it.. Only email sent directly from Outlook and do it - Email from apps cannot"  There is a way to do it but they will not tell. Mario Essentially set the X-Mailer using <cfmailparam>  Look at the headers on an email that works correctly.  Whatever headers you see in there that are different from the one you send using CF, set (or change) the params using <cfmailparam>.  Now, some spam filters or mail clients are smart enough to ignore certain headers that exist without other headers. That's why I recommend trying to create an email sent from CF that looks exactly the same as the email sent from outlook (minus the message ID and other unique features) John Burns How do you trick it to think Outlook was the sender??? Mario You can change it so that outlook thinks that the sender was outlook and not CF.  That would fix that.  That's why I suggested to try to set all of the mail params that you see in a normal outlook message that works properly. John Mine seems to be the same. Could it be an Outlook setting:  If I send the email thru Outlook to myself, I will receive all the receipts but if I send it thru CF, I only get the delivered receipt, no read or deleted receipt. We do not get read receipts automatically.  We must manually ask for one when sending messages via Outlook. Mario > Were you prompted for a return receipt or by chance do you have return > receipts automatically generated? There was no prompt.  We do not get read receipts automatically.  We must manually ask for one when sending messages via Outlook. Chris   _____   _____   _____  

----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more ----- Or, maybe, they're just doing their jobs. It's not that uncommon to configure mail servers this way, actually. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ phone: 202-797-5496 fax: 202-797-5444

> I just spoke the email support guys here and this is what > they told me: >   > "Our Exchange IMC's Strip it.. Only email sent directly from > Outlook and do it - Email from apps cannot"  There is a way > to do it but they will not tell. If they're stripping out these headers at the IMC, this wouldn't affect Outlook clients connecting directly to Exchange. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ phone: 202-797-5496 fax: 202-797-5444

It tried to change the X-Mailer ID but if I look at the headers I see this: X-Mailer: ColdFusion MX Application Server X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 I was able to change it but it still sets the Xmailer as CFMX application server first - so it is stripped.  THe Outlook version is just a guess we use 9.0 (2000).  Is there anyway to force the CFMX Application Server not to show? Here is my code used: <cfmail to=" mario.ciliotta@csfb.com <mailto:mario.ciliotta@csfb.com>  " from="Mario< mario.ciliotta@csfb.com <mailto:mario.ciliotta@csfb.com> >" subject="RE: Question about email headers" SERVER="xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"> <cfmailParam name="Reply-To" value=" mario.ciliotta@csfb.com <mailto:mario.ciliotta@csfb.com> "> <cfmailparam name="Read-Receipt-To" value=" mario.ciliotta@csfb.com <mailto:mario.ciliotta@csfb.com> "> <cfmailparam name="Disposition-Notification-To" value=" mario.ciliotta@csfb.com <mailto:mario.ciliotta@csfb.com> "> <cfmailParam name="X-Priority" value="1"> <cfmailParam name="X-Mailer" value="Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0"> <cfmailParam name="Mailerid" value="Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0"> <cfmailparam name="Return-Receipt-To" value=" mario.ciliotta@csfb.com <mailto:mario.ciliotta@csfb.com> ">      I tried all the code but I still not read or delete receipt, but I did get the delievered receipt.      I'll try researching more on the web and ask a few other programmers that I know if they can try it on the systems. I sent this to you from Cold Fusion, just to see if maybe it might be that I am trying to send everything to myself. Thanks for the help. Mario </cfmail> > I just spoke the email support guys here and this is what > they told me: >   > "Our Exchange IMC's Strip it.. Only email sent directly from > Outlook and do it - Email from apps cannot"  There is a way > to do it but they will not tell. If they're stripping out these headers at the IMC, this wouldn't affect Outlook clients connecting directly to Exchange. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ phone: 202-797-5496 fax: 202-797-5444   _____  

Mario, Instead of setting the X-Mailer header via cfmailparam, just use the mailerID attribute of the cfmail tag.  That should stop the X-Mailer as showing up as "ColdFusion Application Server". On another note, I did a quick test and my firewall is in fact set to strip out a LOT of mail headers by default, one of which is "Disposition-Notification-To".  Sending through my home email account, the read receipt came through fine (just tested in Outlook, not in CFMX). Outlook never specified a header in regards to the return receipt other than the one I just mentioned.  "Return-Receipt-To" was never placed in the header. Andy It tried to change the X-Mailer ID but if I look at the headers I see this: X-Mailer: ColdFusion MX Application Server X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 I was able to change it but it still sets the Xmailer as CFMX application server first - so it is stripped.  THe Outlook version is just a guess we use 9.0 (2000).  Is there anyway to force the CFMX Application Server not to show? Here is my code used: <cfmail to=" mario.ciliotta@csfb.com <mailto:mario.ciliotta@csfb.com>  " from="Mario< mario.ciliotta@csfb.com <mailto:mario.ciliotta@csfb.com> >" subject="RE: Question about email headers" SERVER="xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"> <cfmailParam name="Reply-To" value=" mario.ciliotta@csfb.com <mailto:mario.ciliotta@csfb.com> "> <cfmailparam name="Read-Receipt-To" value=" mario.ciliotta@csfb.com <mailto:mario.ciliotta@csfb.com> "> <cfmailparam name="Disposition-Notification-To" value=" mario.ciliotta@csfb.com <mailto:mario.ciliotta@csfb.com> "> <cfmailParam name="X-Priority" value="1"> <cfmailParam name="X-Mailer" value="Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0"> <cfmailParam name="Mailerid" value="Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0"> <cfmailparam name="Return-Receipt-To" value=" mario.ciliotta@csfb.com <mailto:mario.ciliotta@csfb.com> ">      I tried all the code but I still not read or delete receipt, but I did get the delievered receipt.   I'll try researching more on the web and ask a few other programmers that I know if they can try it on the systems. I sent this to you from Cold Fusion, just to see if maybe it might be that I am trying to send everything to myself. Thanks for the help. Mario </cfmail>