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Author: Rick Faircloth
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198323
> the significant part of the functionality
would be the client-side
...and wouldn't that be true of any of the applet solutions
proposed in this thread?
Rick
> Fair enough...but why not a tag that integrates or deploys a
> java applet as part of its function? Possible?
I don't see why not. However, the significant part of the functionality
would be the client-side part, if you know what I mean.
Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta,
Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location.
Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information!
Author: Rick Faircloth
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198321
Client side...I hear you...but if it had a small file size
and made life easier for the client...that'll fly.
Wish I knew enough to build a tag like that...I have enough
troubled deploying those that are already built. ;o)
How 'bout it, Fig Leaf...want to build and market a new
product to the community? I'll be your first customer...
btw, I like the wysidraw app...I wonder if that could be used
for remote tutoring. I have a daughter who needs tutoring in math
and that tutoring requires a student and teacher to be able to
"write" on the same sheet of "paper". Can Wysidraw be used
with pen and pad input, instead of mouse...Wacom?
Rick
> Fair enough...but why not a tag that integrates or deploys a
> java applet as part of its function? Possible?
I don't see why not. However, the significant part of the functionality
would be the client-side part, if you know what I mean.
Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta,
Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location.
Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information!
Author: Claude Schneegans
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198322
>>Know of an example somewhere online where that tag
>>can be viewed in use? Demo?
No, I was just commenting the idea.
As I told, I used the zip-unzip approach on one of my sites, but it is in the
admin section, not viewable to public. The education of the user is not a problem
here since there are just a few persons to use the tool.
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Author: Rick Faircloth
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198317
Apology accepted...we all have our moments...including me.
Rick
Might be some misunderstanding there...these were instructiosn on how
to turn cookies on off, even for specific sites if the user wanted to
get that 'involved', clear cookies, where to find the cookies on your
computer ect. So they were instructions on how to DO things :)
I'll also take this post as an oppertunity to appoligize for the
slightly uncalled for outbust earlier...
Adam H
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 18:34:28 -0500, Claude Schneegans
<schneegans@internetique.com> wrote:
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Author: Dave Watts
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198308
> Fair enough...but why not a tag that integrates or deploys a
> java applet as part of its function? Possible?
I don't see why not. However, the significant part of the functionality
would be the client-side part, if you know what I mean.
Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta,
Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location.
Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information!
Author: Rick Faircloth
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198307
Looks nice...(at least the box is pretty, no demos), but $199...ow...
Maybe I'll get a client that won't balk at the extra cost.
Rick
Look at Infomentum's AppletFile. I've used it numerous time and it works
quite well for both uploads and multi-file downloads.
http://www.infomentum.com/AppletFile/index.html
More pricey than $62, but it really is a good applet...
Cheers,
Jeff Garza
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Author: Adam Haskell
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198305
Might be some misunderstanding there...these were instructiosn on how
to turn cookies on off, even for specific sites if the user wanted to
get that 'involved', clear cookies, where to find the cookies on your
computer ect. So they were instructions on how to DO things :)
I'll also take this post as an oppertunity to appoligize for the
slightly uncalled for outbust earlier...
Adam H
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 18:34:28 -0500, Claude Schneegans
<schneegans@internetique.com> wrote:
----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----
Author: Rick Faircloth
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198304
Fair enough...but why not a tag that integrates or deploys
a java applet as part of its function? Possible?
Rick
> We need a tag that does this sort of multi-file selection....
> <CFMULTIFILE>
>
> And if it can be pulled off by JUpload, surely it can be done
> in CF with its Java underpinnings...
CF and its Java underpinnings run on your web server. The Java applet in
question runs on the client. No amount of server-side Java code will allow
you to upload entire directories using a browser and an HTML form.
Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta,
Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location.
Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information!
Author: Jeff Garza
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198303
Look at Infomentum's AppletFile. I've used it numerous time and it works
quite well for both uploads and multi-file downloads.
http://www.infomentum.com/AppletFile/index.html
More pricey than $62, but it really is a good applet...
Cheers,
Jeff Garza
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Author: Dave Watts
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198302
> We need a tag that does this sort of multi-file selection....
> <CFMULTIFILE>
>
> And if it can be pulled off by JUpload, surely it can be done
> in CF with its Java underpinnings...
CF and its Java underpinnings run on your web server. The Java applet in
question runs on the client. No amount of server-side Java code will allow
you to upload entire directories using a browser and an HTML form.
Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta,
Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location.
Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information!
Author: Rick Faircloth
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198301
Know of an example somewhere online where that tag
can be viewed in use? Demo?
Rick
>>Apparently Google has just updated their free image editor Picassa
and it now
>>lets you email your photos to a Google mail account.
Now this is also an intersting avenue, because in most mail software, one is
able to select all files inside a directory in just one operation.
Going through Google is not necessary, and a good pop tool like Paul
Vernon's CFX_POP3 could be used to get the uploaded files.
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Author: Rick Faircloth
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198300
I've begun to learn that the more instructions I put on a site
alongside the functions a user has to perform, the fewer questions
I have to answer and the fewer problems they have...
Rick
Yeah yeah I know...as for profonity, its just my form of expression
call me vulgar but I think of it as more me being lazy and not finding
other creative ways of putting my point across in a less vulgar but
still as offensive manner. If you truewly beleive your clients are so
inept at using the computer offer up a simple tutorial on how to zip
files together, that hwo we handled cookie issues and the results were
quite good.
Adam H
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 17:45:32 -0500, Claude Schneegans
<schneegans@internetique.com> wrote:
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user or the developper who thinks all pretty freaking stupid users know how
to zip a folder" ? ;-)
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Author: Rick Faircloth
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198298
Hey, that's a pretty cool applet, dov...
$62...a little pricey, but well worth it when you do that
sort of thing a lot...
We need a tag that does this sort of multi-file selection....
<CFMULTIFILE>
And if it can be pulled off by JUpload, surely it can be done
in CF with its Java underpinnings...
I'd pay $20 for a tag that would allow multiple file selections...
Rick
I'm referring to client applets, not javascript. Check jupload.biz
I hacked that applet to downsample images prior to upload. With that
applet, I was able to upload my sister's wedding (95 pics) on my site
(onlysimchas.com) in less than 10 minutes....
I actually still use a COM object on the server side, though I have my
own CFC about to replace it.
-dov
You're referring to Ian's code, I assume?
Downsampling is a problem. I use a tag from Efflare to handle images
once they're on the server, but I have to encourage clients not to
upload their full-resolution, large-file images to the server...takes up
too much space.
I use Efflare's CFX_JPG2 tag (or something similar to that name) for
processing images for display, creating new files from the source.
However, I'd have to upgrade to their most costly solution
CFX_ImageFlare or CFX_ImageCR, to get more image processing capability.
As far as me doing some "clever programming" with JavaScript...afraid I
can't touch that... :o)
Rick
For galleries, I strongly suggest you consider the applet solution more
seriously. With some clever programming, you can save tons of time,
downsampling the images in the applet before uploading them to the
server, making them a fraction of their real size...
-Dov
Rick Faircloth
But, actually, since the photos in a gallery may only number 20-25, the
easiest way is to simply do what I've been doing...supplying 5 CFFILE
forms on a page and let them repeat the uploading 4 or 5 times. We're
not talking huge numbers of photos, so the process is no big deal.
Did you catch my code that lets a user add as many file inputs as they
need. Basicly the same idea a yours, but they can do it client side,
before anything is uploaded.
All normal caviats apply.
--------------
Ian Skinner
Web Programmer
BloodSource
www.BloodSource.org
Sacramento, CA
"C code. C code run. Run code run. Please!"
- Cynthia Dunning
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Author: Claude Schneegans
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198296
>>that hwo we handled cookie issues and the results were quite good.
I must say I agree with you 100% about cookies.
However, for cookies, it is just a question of explaining, for zipping,
users have to learn how to do something and DO it, and, and, beleive me,
this is quite another story ;-)
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Author: Claude Schneegans
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198294
>>Apparently Google has just updated their free image editor Picassa
and it now
>>lets you email your photos to a Google mail account.
Now this is also an intersting avenue, because in most mail software, one is able
to select all files inside a directory in just one operation.
Going through Google is not necessary, and a good pop tool like Paul Vernon's
CFX_POP3 could be used to get the uploaded files.
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Author: Adam Haskell
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198293
Yeah yeah I know...as for profonity, its just my form of expression
call me vulgar but I think of it as more me being lazy and not finding
other creative ways of putting my point across in a less vulgar but
still as offensive manner. If you truewly beleive your clients are so
inept at using the computer offer up a simple tutorial on how to zip
files together, that hwo we handled cookie issues and the results were
quite good.
Adam H
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 17:45:32 -0500, Claude Schneegans
<schneegans@internetique.com> wrote:
----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----
Author: Rick Faircloth
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198291
Thanks for the tip, Mason...
Rick
Rick,
Here's another alternative that I just learned about. Apparently
Google has just updated their free image editor Picassa and it now
lets you email your photos to a Google mail account. I don't have the
software but it says that it lets you edit photos and will
automatically resize them as well.
http://www.google.com/gmail/help/whatsnew.html
Just have the gMail account forward it to a pop3 account and grab the
photos that way. I am going to investigate this for future use in a
project myself. Let me know if you choose this solution and how it
works for you.
Rick Mason
SeedChoices.com
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 14:47:59 -0500, Rick Faircloth
<Rick@whitestonemedia.com> wrote:
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Author: Rick Faircloth
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198290
Thanks for the tip on the site...I'll check it out.
Rick
I'm referring to client applets, not javascript. Check jupload.biz
I hacked that applet to downsample images prior to upload. With that
applet, I was able to upload my sister's wedding (95 pics) on my site
(onlysimchas.com) in less than 10 minutes....
I actually still use a COM object on the server side, though I have my
own CFC about to replace it.
-dov
You're referring to Ian's code, I assume?
Downsampling is a problem. I use a tag from Efflare to handle images
once they're on the server, but I have to encourage clients not to
upload their full-resolution, large-file images to the server...takes up
too much space.
I use Efflare's CFX_JPG2 tag (or something similar to that name) for
processing images for display, creating new files from the source.
However, I'd have to upgrade to their most costly solution
CFX_ImageFlare or CFX_ImageCR, to get more image processing capability.
As far as me doing some "clever programming" with JavaScript...afraid I
can't touch that... :o)
Rick
For galleries, I strongly suggest you consider the applet solution more
seriously. With some clever programming, you can save tons of time,
downsampling the images in the applet before uploading them to the
server, making them a fraction of their real size...
-Dov
Rick Faircloth
But, actually, since the photos in a gallery may only number 20-25, the
easiest way is to simply do what I've been doing...supplying 5 CFFILE
forms on a page and let them repeat the uploading 4 or 5 times. We're
not talking huge numbers of photos, so the process is no big deal.
Did you catch my code that lets a user add as many file inputs as they
need. Basicly the same idea a yours, but they can do it client side,
before anything is uploaded.
All normal caviats apply.
--------------
Ian Skinner
Web Programmer
BloodSource
www.BloodSource.org
Sacramento, CA
"C code. C code run. Run code run. Please!"
- Cynthia Dunning
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Author: Rick Mason
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198289
Rick,
Here's another alternative that I just learned about. Apparently
Google has just updated their free image editor Picassa and it now
lets you email your photos to a Google mail account. I don't have the
software but it says that it lets you edit photos and will
automatically resize them as well.
http://www.google.com/gmail/help/whatsnew.html
Just have the gMail account forward it to a pop3 account and grab the
photos that way. I am going to investigate this for future use in a
project myself. Let me know if you choose this solution and how it
works for you.
Rick Mason
SeedChoices.com
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 14:47:59 -0500, Rick Faircloth
<Rick@whitestonemedia.com> wrote:
----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----
Author: Katz, Dov B \(IT\)
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198288
I'm referring to client applets, not javascript. Check jupload.biz
I hacked that applet to downsample images prior to upload. With that
applet, I was able to upload my sister's wedding (95 pics) on my site
(onlysimchas.com) in less than 10 minutes....
I actually still use a COM object on the server side, though I have my
own CFC about to replace it.
-dov
You're referring to Ian's code, I assume?
Downsampling is a problem. I use a tag from Efflare to handle images
once they're on the server, but I have to encourage clients not to
upload their full-resolution, large-file images to the server...takes up
too much space.
I use Efflare's CFX_JPG2 tag (or something similar to that name) for
processing images for display, creating new files from the source.
However, I'd have to upgrade to their most costly solution
CFX_ImageFlare or CFX_ImageCR, to get more image processing capability.
As far as me doing some "clever programming" with JavaScript...afraid I
can't touch that... :o)
Rick
For galleries, I strongly suggest you consider the applet solution more
seriously. With some clever programming, you can save tons of time,
downsampling the images in the applet before uploading them to the
server, making them a fraction of their real size...
-Dov
Rick Faircloth
But, actually, since the photos in a gallery may only number 20-25, the
easiest way is to simply do what I've been doing...supplying 5 CFFILE
forms on a page and let them repeat the uploading 4 or 5 times. We're
not talking huge numbers of photos, so the process is no big deal.
Did you catch my code that lets a user add as many file inputs as they
need. Basicly the same idea a yours, but they can do it client side,
before anything is uploaded.
All normal caviats apply.
--------------
Ian Skinner
Web Programmer
BloodSource
www.BloodSource.org
Sacramento, CA
"C code. C code run. Run code run. Please!"
- Cynthia Dunning
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Author: Rick Faircloth
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198287
You're referring to Ian's code, I assume?
Downsampling is a problem. I use a tag from Efflare
to handle images once they're on the server, but I have
to encourage clients not to upload their full-resolution,
large-file images to the server...takes up too much space.
I use Efflare's CFX_JPG2 tag (or something similar to that name)
for processing images for display, creating new files from the source.
However, I'd have to upgrade to their most costly solution
CFX_ImageFlare or CFX_ImageCR, to get more image processing capability.
As far as me doing some "clever programming" with JavaScript...afraid
I can't touch that... :o)
Rick
For galleries, I strongly suggest you consider the applet solution more
seriously. With some clever programming, you can save tons of time,
downsampling the images in the applet before uploading them to the
server, making them a fraction of their real size...
-Dov
Rick Faircloth
But, actually, since the photos in a gallery may only number 20-25, the
easiest way is to simply do what I've been doing...supplying 5 CFFILE
forms on a page and let them repeat the uploading 4 or 5 times. We're
not talking huge numbers of photos, so the process is no big deal.
Did you catch my code that lets a user add as many file inputs as they
need. Basicly the same idea a yours, but they can do it client side,
before anything is uploaded.
All normal caviats apply.
--------------
Ian Skinner
Web Programmer
BloodSource
www.BloodSource.org
Sacramento, CA
"C code. C code run. Run code run. Please!"
- Cynthia Dunning
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Author: Rick Faircloth
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198284
Yes, Ian, I've got it archived actually under code examples
and will attempt to implement it...although I shy away from
JavaScript usually. We're not the best of friends. :o)
Thanks for taking the time to type out a solution.
Rick
Rick Faircloth
But, actually, since the photos in a gallery may only number 20-25, the
easiest way is to simply do what I've been doing...supplying 5 CFFILE forms
on a page and let them repeat the uploading 4 or 5 times. We're not talking
huge numbers of photos, so the process is no big deal.
Did you catch my code that lets a user add as many file inputs as they need.
Basicly the same idea a yours, but they can do it client side, before
anything is uploaded.
All normal caviats apply.
--------------
Ian Skinner
Web Programmer
BloodSource
www.BloodSource.org
Sacramento, CA
"C code. C code run. Run code run. Please!"
- Cynthia Dunning
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Author: Katz, Dov B \(IT\)
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198279
For galleries, I strongly suggest you consider the applet solution more
seriously. With some clever programming, you can save tons of time,
downsampling the images in the applet before uploading them to the
server, making them a fraction of their real size...
-Dov
Rick Faircloth
But, actually, since the photos in a gallery may only number 20-25, the
easiest way is to simply do what I've been doing...supplying 5 CFFILE
forms on a page and let them repeat the uploading 4 or 5 times. We're
not talking huge numbers of photos, so the process is no big deal.
Did you catch my code that lets a user add as many file inputs as they
need. Basicly the same idea a yours, but they can do it client side,
before anything is uploaded.
All normal caviats apply.
--------------
Ian Skinner
Web Programmer
BloodSource
www.BloodSource.org
Sacramento, CA
"C code. C code run. Run code run. Please!"
- Cynthia Dunning
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Author: Ian Skinner
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198278
Rick Faircloth
But, actually, since the photos in a gallery may only number 20-25, the easiest
way is to simply do what I've been doing...supplying 5 CFFILE forms on a page and
let them repeat the uploading 4 or 5 times. We're not talking huge numbers of
photos, so the process is no big deal.
Did you catch my code that lets a user add as many file inputs as they need.
Basicly the same idea a yours, but they can do it client side, before anything is
uploaded.
All normal caviats apply.
--------------
Ian Skinner
Web Programmer
BloodSource
www.BloodSource.org
Sacramento, CA
"C code. C code run. Run code run. Please!"
- Cynthia Dunning
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Author: Claude Schneegans
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198277
>>you have to be pretty freaking
>>stupid to not know how to zip a folder.
The right question here is "Who is the more pretty freaking stupid: the user or
the developper who thinks all pretty freaking stupid users know how to zip a
folder" ? ;-)
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Author: Rick Faircloth
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198275
Profanity is just the by-product of a weak mind trying to express itself.
It's offensive and not welcome...I usually don't say anything about it
when others do it...but when it's directed at me, especially with the
abusive language Adam used, it's time for a response...
Rick
>>I don't appreciate the tone of your message or the
>>profanity that you used.
Bah,... don't worry, there are always a couple of guys who beleive that
insults and profanities
can help them making their point... ;-/
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Author: Rick Faircloth
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198272
As much as looking for a solution to uploading an entire directory
at once, I was attempting to understand why it wasn't possible to do so.
Beyond just looking to solve a current issue, I was asking to be educated
on the matter. That's why the discussion went on so long. And we discussed
much more than just FTP'ing the files. I also learned that the limitations
were inherent to HTML and even to the browser. Good stuff to know for the
future.
"Let the wise listen and add to their learning,
and let the discerning get guidance..." Proverbs 1:5
Rick
Nor did you... all you had to read were the first 5 over and over
again b/c thats all that was said... you have to be pretty freaking
stupid to not know how to zip a folder...in XP ecspecially. Just makle
sure to not read my posts in the future...I love to help people but
after a while of saying the same thing over and over again people get
frustrated...
Adam H
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 17:16:21 -0500, Rick Faircloth
<Rick@whitestonemedia.com> wrote:
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Author: Claude Schneegans
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198270
>>I don't appreciate the tone of your message or the
>>profanity that you used.
Bah,... don't worry, there are always a couple of guys who beleive that insults
and profanities
can help them making their point... ;-/
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Author: Rick Faircloth
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198268
Good thoughts, Rebecca...
But, actually, since the photos in a gallery may only number 20-25,
the easiest way is to simply do what I've been doing...supplying
5 CFFILE forms on a page and let them repeat the uploading 4 or 5 times.
We're not talking huge numbers of photos, so the process is no big deal.
If I had a client who need large numbers of photos processed, then
I think the FTP solution would be the way to go....but not in this case.
Oh, and no, these are separate website clients, not people or computers
inside an intranet where we could do folder sharing.
Thanks for the advice,
Rick
There's also the whole issue of folder sharing and user permissions that
hasn't been discussed. When the client browser pics a directory on the
client computer, the path is a local path, i.e.
c:\myworkstation\myWorkstationDirectory\. If a server tries to use that
path, it translates into a path on the server, not the client computer. For
the server to be able to see a directory on the client computer, the path it
needs to use is from the server's view, the workstation's network path, i.e.
\\mymyworkstation\myWorkstationDirectory AND myWorkstationDirectory needs to
be setup to share it's contents. You would have to configure every
workstation with this setup and it would only work if the server and
workstations are on the same network, like a intranet and there were no
firewall issues. It would not work over the Internet. I think it would be a
heck of a lot easier to show your users how to use FTP because that's what
it's designed to do. Just because you have a hammer, that do
esn't make everything a nail. Use the right tool for the job!
Author: Claude Schneegans
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198269
>>the best answer was given
>>very very early on. Have the client zip thier files in a directory and
>>upload the zip file.
I know, I gave this solution. ;-)
And runing pkzip from a bat file is even easier, since you can change directory,
etc.
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Author: Adam Haskell
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198267
Nor did you... all you had to read were the first 5 over and over
again b/c thats all that was said... you have to be pretty freaking
stupid to not know how to zip a folder...in XP ecspecially. Just makle
sure to not read my posts in the future...I love to help people but
after a while of saying the same thing over and over again people get
frustrated...
Adam H
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 17:16:21 -0500, Rick Faircloth
<Rick@whitestonemedia.com> wrote:
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Author: Rick Faircloth
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198266
Adam...
I don't appreciate the tone of your message or the
profanity that you used. I personally don't use profanity
and find it very offensive.
Concerning the discussion, about upload an entire directory
at once...remember, you didn't have to read any of them,
much less 15.
After awhile, it became clear that the lack of that functionality
was because of limitations to HTML and there was nothing that
could be done about it in CF.
As for the solution you mentioned below, it is a solution, but not
as good as the one I currently use, which is more user-friendly
to more non-technical people who work with many of the photo
galleries I build. Having to use a third-party software application
is not desirable. The amount of photos processed per gallery
don't justify that much of a work-around.
Now...for the future...I would appreciate it if you would not
respond to any discussion that I initiate on this list.
You style of participation is not welcome.
Rick
I honestly have not read all of the posts, personally I felt sick to
my stomach after reading about 15 or so...the best answer was given
very very early on. Have the client zip thier files in a directory and
upload the zip file. use CFexecute to unzip these files, only I would
use Info-ZIP but pkzip would work the same. Once they have been unzip
use your bloody f*ing cfdirectory the way it is supposed to work and
STFU.
Adam H
Author: Rebecca Wells
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198265
There's also the whole issue of folder sharing and user permissions that hasn't
been discussed. When the client browser pics a directory on the client computer,
the path is a local path, i.e. c:\myworkstation\myWorkstationDirectory\. If a
server tries to use that path, it translates into a path on the server, not the
client computer. For the server to be able to see a directory on the client
computer, the path it needs to use is from the server's view, the workstation's
network path, i.e. \\mymyworkstation\myWorkstationDirectory AND
myWorkstationDirectory needs to be setup to share it's contents. You would have
to configure every workstation with this setup and it would only work if the
server and workstations are on the same network, like a intranet and there were
no firewall issues. It would not work over the Internet. I think it would be a
heck of a lot easier to show your users how to use FTP because that's what it's
designed to do. Just because you have a hammer, that doesn't make everything a
nail. Use the right tool for the job!
Author: Adam Haskell
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198264
I honestly have not read all of the posts, personally I felt sick to
my stomach after reading about 15 or so...the best answer was given
very very early on. Have the client zip thier files in a directory and
upload the zip file. use CFexecute to unzip these files, only I would
use Info-ZIP but pkzip would work the same. Once they have been unzip
use your bloody f*ing cfdirectory the way it is supposed to work and
STFU.
Adam H
Author: Claude Schneegans
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198261
>>I understand that *currently* CFDirectory only has access
>>to my local system...
Well, if by local system you mean the server, then you understand well, depends
where you are located ;-/
>>what I'm talking about is developing
>>a tag that allows a user to specify a directory for upload the
>>same way we use CFFile now...
The way CFFILE ACTION="upload" works is that it manages THE file that was sent by
the client form
and temporarily store on the server by the HTTP server.
CFFILE does not grab any file on the client system.
As long as browser can send only ONE file at a time, there is no way to develop
any tag on the server
that will expand this facility.
>>I guess the difficulties in doing this are embedded in the details of
the HTML standards, etc.,
You're guessing right.
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Author: Rick Faircloth
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198250
Thanks for the tip, Rick.
I've got a copy I'm testing now for an FTP online storage service.
Hadn't thought of using it for this situation.
Rick
Rick,
Ran into the exact same problem you have a couple of years ago. Get
your client a copy of webdrive:
http://www.southrivertech.com/index.php?pg=./products/webdrive/index
Seem to remember that it was around $40 and tech support was great.
It maps a drive letter to the FTP directory that you specify. You
might even be able to use a gateway if you're running CF-7 to watch
that directory and immediately process files uploaded there.
Rick Mason
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Author: Rick Mason
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198245
Rick,
Ran into the exact same problem you have a couple of years ago. Get
your client a copy of webdrive:
http://www.southrivertech.com/index.php?pg=./products/webdrive/index
Seem to remember that it was around $40 and tech support was great.
It maps a drive letter to the FTP directory that you specify. You
might even be able to use a gateway if you're running CF-7 to watch
that directory and immediately process files uploaded there.
Rick Mason
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Author: Andrew Tyrone
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198240
That part is unlikely ever to change, as there are already third party
solutions which get the job done more efficiently. This type of
functionality is very specific, and since there is no incentive to add
anything like this (read: no one makes any money) as well as it being
inherently difficult to globalize throughout browserland, I think the
implementation is best left to third party software.
Andy
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Author: Ian Skinner
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198239
Well this does not go very far to changing the standards, but this code will
allow a user to upload as many files at they want, but they will have to select
each one individually.
<cfif IsDefined("form.files")>
Hello
<cfdump var="#form#">
</cfif>
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">;
<html>
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
<title>Multiple File Upload</title>
<script type="text/javascript" language="javascript">
var numberOfFiles = 1;
function addFile()
{
var block = document.getElementById("inputs"); //Grab the file input
container.
var newInput= document.createElement('input'); //Create a new input node
newInput.type = "file"; //Set the type of the node to "file"
newInput.name = "imageFile" + ++numberOfFiles;//Set the name of the node
block.appendChild(newInput); //Append the new node to the input container
}
</script>
<style type="text/css" media="screen">
fieldset#inputs input
{
width: 50em;
display: block;
}
</style>
</head>
<body>
<form id="files" enctype="multipart/form-data" method="post">
<fieldset id="inputs"><input id="org" type="file"
name="imageFile1"></fieldset>
<a href="javascript: addFile();">Another File</a><br/>
<input type="submit" name="files">
</form>
</body>
</html>
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Ian Skinner
Web Programmer
BloodSource
www.BloodSource.org
Sacramento, CA
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...-----Original Message-----
...
...Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 9:17 AM
...To: CF-Talk
...Subject: RE: How to Browse and Choose Directory...
...
...> To enable uploading of whole directories the HTTP protocol, the
...> implementation of that protocol in the user's webbrowser, and possibly
...> the underlying operating system would have to be changed.
...
...Now that's the part that I'm saying will eventually need to be changed...
...
...Rick
...
...
...-----Original Message-----
...
...Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 11:53 AM
...To: CF-Talk
...Subject: RE: How to Browse and Choose Directory...
...
...
...Rick,
...
...> I understand that *currently* CFDirectory only has access to
...> my local system...what I'm talking about is developing a tag
...> that allows a user to specify a directory for upload the same
...> way we use CFFile now...
...
...There will never be a time when <cfdirectory> or <cffile> will
have
...access to a user's file system. This is not due to a lack of foresight
...on MM's part, but because of security restrictions put in place via the
...user's operating system and the HTTP protocol.
...
...To enable CF to have access to an arbitrary user's file system would
...also mean that it was open to anyone else who cared to have a look,
...hackers included. You also have the issue of how to actually get to the
...user's machine: what would happen to users who are behind a proxy server
...or firewall?
...
...In case there is still confusion between client and server funcionality,
...I have detailed, step by step, the process of uploading a file via HTTP:
...
...1. An HTML form is displayed to the user in their web browser
... including a file upload field.
...2. The user fills out the form and selects a file to upload
...3. The user clicks the "submit" button
...4. The web browser software (IE/Firefox/Opera etc) grabs the
... required file from the user's file system
...5. The file data is encoded in the header of the HTTP request
... and sent to the web server
...
...All the above happens on the client side -- there is no interaction from
...the web server or ColdFusion.
...
...6. The web server recieves the request
...7. The uploaded file is decoded and placed in a temporary
... location by the webserver software (IIS/Apache etc)
...8. The uploaded file information is set in the environment
... variables by the webserver
...
...We still haven't got to ColdFusion yet. The above process is the same
...whether you are using Firefox on a PC and uploading to a webserver
...running IIS, or if you're using Lynx on a linux terminal uploading to
...Apache.
...
...At this point, the uploaded file is a temporary file sitting somewhere
...on the webserver (NOT on the client machine).
...
...9. The webserver passes the request off to ColdFusion
...10. A <cffile action="upload"> call is made from within a CF
... template
...11. CF moves the file from where it was put in point 7 above
... (remember -- it's already on the server) to the CF temp
... directory. At the same time it reads information such as
... the uploaded file name, MIME type and file size and places
... the data in the CFFILE scope for you to play with.
...
...As you can see, ColdFusion has no access at all to the client machine.
...It purely acts on data on the server.
...
...To enable uploading of whole directories the HTTP protocol, the
...implementation of that protocol in the user's webbrowser, and possibly
...the underlying operating system would have to be changed. I find it
...very very unlikely that this is ever going to happen, mainly for the
...security reasons that have already been mentioned, but also that it's a
...hell of a big job! If in the unlikely event it *did* come about, it'd
...take a long time (years) for the protocol changes to be ratified and
...updated, and then longer still for the browsers to support the new
...method.
...
...As has been mentioned, one frequently used method of uploading multiple
...files is for the user to place all the required files in one zip file
...and upload that. The process would then occur as above, but at the end
...you would run a <CFEXECUTE> command to unzip the file, and then process
...all the files uploaded individually.
...
...HTH,
...
...Tim.
...
...
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Author: Rick Faircloth
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198238
> To enable uploading of whole directories the HTTP protocol, the
> implementation of that protocol in the user's webbrowser, and possibly
> the underlying operating system would have to be changed.
Now that's the part that I'm saying will eventually need to be changed...
Rick
Rick,
> I understand that *currently* CFDirectory only has access to
> my local system...what I'm talking about is developing a tag
> that allows a user to specify a directory for upload the same
> way we use CFFile now...
There will never be a time when <cfdirectory> or <cffile> will have
access to a user's file system. This is not due to a lack of foresight
on MM's part, but because of security restrictions put in place via the
user's operating system and the HTTP protocol.
To enable CF to have access to an arbitrary user's file system would
also mean that it was open to anyone else who cared to have a look,
hackers included. You also have the issue of how to actually get to the
user's machine: what would happen to users who are behind a proxy server
or firewall?
In case there is still confusion between client and server funcionality,
I have detailed, step by step, the process of uploading a file via HTTP:
1. An HTML form is displayed to the user in their web browser
including a file upload field.
2. The user fills out the form and selects a file to upload
3. The user clicks the "submit" button
4. The web browser software (IE/Firefox/Opera etc) grabs the
required file from the user's file system
5. The file data is encoded in the header of the HTTP request
and sent to the web server
All the above happens on the client side -- there is no interaction from
the web server or ColdFusion.
6. The web server recieves the request
7. The uploaded file is decoded and placed in a temporary
location by the webserver software (IIS/Apache etc)
8. The uploaded file information is set in the environment
variables by the webserver
We still haven't got to ColdFusion yet. The above process is the same
whether you are using Firefox on a PC and uploading to a webserver
running IIS, or if you're using Lynx on a linux terminal uploading to
Apache.
At this point, the uploaded file is a temporary file sitting somewhere
on the webserver (NOT on the client machine).
9. The webserver passes the request off to ColdFusion
10. A <cffile action="upload"> call is made from within a CF
template
11. CF moves the file from where it was put in point 7 above
(remember -- it's already on the server) to the CF temp
directory. At the same time it reads information such as
the uploaded file name, MIME type and file size and places
the data in the CFFILE scope for you to play with.
As you can see, ColdFusion has no access at all to the client machine.
It purely acts on data on the server.
To enable uploading of whole directories the HTTP protocol, the
implementation of that protocol in the user's webbrowser, and possibly
the underlying operating system would have to be changed. I find it
very very unlikely that this is ever going to happen, mainly for the
security reasons that have already been mentioned, but also that it's a
hell of a big job! If in the unlikely event it *did* come about, it'd
take a long time (years) for the protocol changes to be ratified and
updated, and then longer still for the browsers to support the new
method.
As has been mentioned, one frequently used method of uploading multiple
files is for the user to place all the required files in one zip file
and upload that. The process would then occur as above, but at the end
you would run a <CFEXECUTE> command to unzip the file, and then process
all the files uploaded individually.
HTH,
Tim.
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Author: Tim Blair
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198235
Rick,
> I understand that *currently* CFDirectory only has access to
> my local system...what I'm talking about is developing a tag
> that allows a user to specify a directory for upload the same
> way we use CFFile now...
There will never be a time when <cfdirectory> or <cffile> will have
access to a user's file system. This is not due to a lack of foresight
on MM's part, but because of security restrictions put in place via the
user's operating system and the HTTP protocol.
To enable CF to have access to an arbitrary user's file system would
also mean that it was open to anyone else who cared to have a look,
hackers included. You also have the issue of how to actually get to the
user's machine: what would happen to users who are behind a proxy server
or firewall?
In case there is still confusion between client and server funcionality,
I have detailed, step by step, the process of uploading a file via HTTP:
1. An HTML form is displayed to the user in their web browser
including a file upload field.
2. The user fills out the form and selects a file to upload
3. The user clicks the "submit" button
4. The web browser software (IE/Firefox/Opera etc) grabs the
required file from the user's file system
5. The file data is encoded in the header of the HTTP request
and sent to the web server
All the above happens on the client side -- there is no interaction from
the web server or ColdFusion.
6. The web server recieves the request
7. The uploaded file is decoded and placed in a temporary
location by the webserver software (IIS/Apache etc)
8. The uploaded file information is set in the environment
variables by the webserver
We still haven't got to ColdFusion yet. The above process is the same
whether you are using Firefox on a PC and uploading to a webserver
running IIS, or if you're using Lynx on a linux terminal uploading to
Apache.
At this point, the uploaded file is a temporary file sitting somewhere
on the webserver (NOT on the client machine).
9. The webserver passes the request off to ColdFusion
10. A <cffile action="upload"> call is made from within a CF
template
11. CF moves the file from where it was put in point 7 above
(remember -- it's already on the server) to the CF temp
directory. At the same time it reads information such as
the uploaded file name, MIME type and file size and places
the data in the CFFILE scope for you to play with.
As you can see, ColdFusion has no access at all to the client machine.
It purely acts on data on the server.
To enable uploading of whole directories the HTTP protocol, the
implementation of that protocol in the user's webbrowser, and possibly
the underlying operating system would have to be changed. I find it
very very unlikely that this is ever going to happen, mainly for the
security reasons that have already been mentioned, but also that it's a
hell of a big job! If in the unlikely event it *did* come about, it'd
take a long time (years) for the protocol changes to be ratified and
updated, and then longer still for the browsers to support the new
method.
As has been mentioned, one frequently used method of uploading multiple
files is for the user to place all the required files in one zip file
and upload that. The process would then occur as above, but at the end
you would run a <CFEXECUTE> command to unzip the file, and then process
all the files uploaded individually.
HTH,
Tim.
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Author: Rick Faircloth
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198232
Understood...it works with a temp directory off the server
after the upload.
Now...if we could work with entire directories the same way...
Rick
cffile can't do this either.
cffile only works on the SERVER machine. It can only read and write files on
the SERVER machine.
cffile cannot access, read or write or delete files on the CLIENT machine.
Jerry Johnson
Web Developer
Dolan Media Company
>>> Rick@WhiteStoneMedia.com 03/10/05 11:14AM >>>
I'm not talking about implementing a solution with current functionality,
but creating new functionality that...well...seems to me would operate
in the same manner as CFFILE, but on the directory level...where the
client specifies a directory for upload instead of a single file...
Why is it so much different to do this on the directory level than on the
file level?
Author: Rick Faircloth
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198231
Understood...but it's at the level you're referencing that
perhaps change needs to occur to allow such functionality...
Rick
Rick Faircloth wrote:
> I understand that *currently* CFDirectory only has access
> to my local system...what I'm talking about is developing
> a tag that allows a user to specify a directory for upload the
> same way we use CFFile now...
>
> I guess the difficulties in doing this are embedded in the details of
> the HTML standards, etc., that I'm unfamiliar with....
Specifying a directory is not the same as explicitly specifying
each of the files in it:
http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/appendix/notes.html#forms-security
Jochem
Author: Ian Skinner
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198227
Well, I think you are still misunderstanding <cffile>. It does not
currently get a file from the client (and probably never will). It gets the file
from the server. The browser is the agent that gets the file. It then encodes
the file into a string and sends that data in the header of the HTTP request.
The web server (IIS or Apache for example) takes this data from the HTTP request
it received and passes this on the application server (Cold Fusion in the case of
this list). The <cffile> tag then does something with this data that is on
the server. It never touches the client.
CF does blur the server/client a bit with it's <CFForm> on some other
related tags. But if you look closely at what these do, they just create JS
(and/or Flash/XML as of MX 7) client code and then sends this code downstream to
the browser. So something here could theoretically be created along these lines.
But are not likely.
Actually CFFTP already has directory browsing abilities. But to use them, the
client would have to be setup to ACCEPT FTP trafic. Not a likely situation.
But, if you want to set up FTP services in your server, you could easily create a
spot where users could FTP loads of data to you. They could use any number of
tools, including those built in to Windows and/or IE. You then can use CF to
further process these files.
Many people don't know if you type FTP://www.myFTPSite.com into IE, you get a
simple FTP tool that files (or entire directories) can be draged into and out of,
on windows OS of course.
--------------
Ian Skinner
Web Programmer
BloodSource
www.BloodSource.org
Sacramento, CA
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...-----Original Message-----
...
...Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 8:09 AM
...To: CF-Talk
...Subject: RE: How to Browse and Choose Directory...
...
...I understand that *currently* CFDirectory only has access
...to my local system...what I'm talking about is developing
...a tag that allows a user to specify a directory for upload the
...same way we use CFFile now...
...
...I guess the difficulties in doing this are embedded in the details of
...the HTML standards, etc., that I'm unfamiliar with....
...
...Maybe the FTP protocol could be modified to work within CFDIRECTORY
...to allow remote access to a folder...I'm way out of my league on the
...details of this, however...
...
...Rick
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Author: Jerry Johnson
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cffile can't do this either.
cffile only works on the SERVER machine. It can only read and write files on the
SERVER machine.
cffile cannot access, read or write or delete files on the CLIENT machine.
Jerry Johnson
Web Developer
Dolan Media Company
>>> Rick@WhiteStoneMedia.com 03/10/05 11:14AM >>>
I'm not talking about implementing a solution with current functionality,
but creating new functionality that...well...seems to me would operate
in the same manner as CFFILE, but on the directory level...where the
client specifies a directory for upload instead of a single file...
Why is it so much different to do this on the directory level than on the
file level?
Author: Kerry
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198224
a solution i have used in the past is to inform users that to upload a
directory, they will have to zip it.
then they upload the zip file, i use java.util.zip to unzip it on the server
and its mission accomplished....
Yes, I meant this would only provide the user the ability to create as many
BLANK file input fields as they want to upload. They would then be required
to complete each field to actually select a file to be uploaded.
I think this would not be that bad, because once the first file has been
selected, the browsers I have used will remember where the last file
selected came from and default to that location the next time the browse
features is utilized.
--------------
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BloodSource
www.BloodSource.org
Sacramento, CA
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....Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 8:05 AM
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....Subject: Re: How to Browse and Choose Directory...
....
.... >>On the other hand, you should be able to create a JS widget that
....allows a user to expand the upload fields by cloning a new one each time
....a control is clicked.
....
....Even so, there is still the problem to update the file name to grab
....different files, and there is no mean you can get a list of the files in
....the client directory.
....And you cannot either set the file name in the INPUT tag, even if you
....knew it, I beleive.
....
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Author: Jochem van Dieten
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198225
Rick Faircloth wrote:
> I understand that *currently* CFDirectory only has access
> to my local system...what I'm talking about is developing
> a tag that allows a user to specify a directory for upload the
> same way we use CFFile now...
>
> I guess the difficulties in doing this are embedded in the details of
> the HTML standards, etc., that I'm unfamiliar with....
Specifying a directory is not the same as explicitly specifying
each of the files in it:
http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/appendix/notes.html#forms-security
Jochem
Author: Rick Faircloth
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198219
I'm not talking about implementing a solution with current functionality,
but creating new functionality that...well...seems to me would operate
in the same manner as CFFILE, but on the directory level...where the
client specifies a directory for upload instead of a single file...
Why is it so much different to do this on the directory level than on the
file level?
Rick
Rick
Jerry outlines why this wouldn't be possible.
The most you could do would be to create a custom tag which acts as a
wrapper for a java applet (which would *still* be running on the client
machine).
KOla
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Author: Ian Skinner
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198218
Yes, I meant this would only provide the user the ability to create as many BLANK
file input fields as they want to upload. They would then be required to
complete each field to actually select a file to be uploaded.
I think this would not be that bad, because once the first file has been
selected, the browsers I have used will remember where the last file selected
came from and default to that location the next time the browse features is
utilized.
--------------
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BloodSource
www.BloodSource.org
Sacramento, CA
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...
...Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 8:05 AM
...To: CF-Talk
...Subject: Re: How to Browse and Choose Directory...
...
... >>On the other hand, you should be able to create a JS widget that
...allows a user to expand the upload fields by cloning a new one each time
...a control is clicked.
...
...Even so, there is still the problem to update the file name to grab
...different files, and there is no mean you can get a list of the files in
...the client directory.
...And you cannot either set the file name in the INPUT tag, even if you
...knew it, I beleive.
...
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Author: Rick Faircloth
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198217
I understand that *currently* CFDirectory only has access
to my local system...what I'm talking about is developing
a tag that allows a user to specify a directory for upload the
same way we use CFFile now...
I guess the difficulties in doing this are embedded in the details of
the HTML standards, etc., that I'm unfamiliar with....
Maybe the FTP protocol could be modified to work within CFDIRECTORY
to allow remote access to a folder...I'm way out of my league on the
details of this, however...
Rick
Cold fusion still has nothing to do with this.
You are confusing client side Java and server side Java.
They run on completely separate machines and have local file access to
completely separate harddrives
Jerry Johnson
Web Developer
Dolan Media Company
>>> Rick@WhiteStoneMedia.com 03/10/05 10:46AM >>>
Surely, since CF is so Java-based now (I'm still on 4.5.2), there ought to
be
a way for some of you Java gurus to build a tag that would accomplish this.
<CFDIRECTORY Action="Upload"...>
Author: Claude Schneegans
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198215
>>On the other hand, you should be able to create a JS widget that
allows a user to expand the upload fields by cloning a new one each time
a control is clicked.
Even so, there is still the problem to update the file name to grab
different files, and there is no mean you can get a list of the files in
the client directory.
And you cannot either set the file name in the INPUT tag, even if you
knew it, I beleive.
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Author: kola.oyedeji
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198213
Rick
Jerry outlines why this wouldn't be possible.
The most you could do would be to create a custom tag which acts as a
wrapper for a java applet (which would *still* be running on the client
machine).
KOla
----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----
Author: Ian Skinner
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198210
Well, that would not be the place to work, CF is still the server side of the
equation. Now, it does blur the line with tags such as <CFFORM> That
create some basic Client side code for you with simple mark up. If something
like this was to exist, it would probably be there.
On the other hand, you should be able to create a JS widget that allows a user to
expand the upload fields by cloning a new one each time a control is clicked. I
have done this with basic <input ..> tags, so I would presume that it would
work with file inputs.
--------------
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Web Programmer
BloodSource
www.BloodSource.org
Sacramento, CA
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...-----Original Message-----
...
...Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 7:47 AM
...To: CF-Talk
...Subject: RE: How to Browse and Choose Directory...
...
...Thanks, Ian...
...
...But I've given up on implementing a solution for directory uploads.
...Too much trouble...I'll just give the client a page with 10 CFFILE upload
...fields
...so they can load 10 photos at a time that way. Just thought there would
...be a way to do it more easily from within CF...
...
...Surely, since CF is so Java-based now (I'm still on 4.5.2), there ought
...to
...be
...a way for some of you Java gurus to build a tag that would accomplish
...this.
...
...<CFDIRECTORY Action="Upload"...>
...
...Rick
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Author: Jerry Johnson
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198206
Cold fusion still has nothing to do with this.
You are confusing client side Java and server side Java.
They run on completely separate machines and have local file access to completely
separate harddrives
Jerry Johnson
Web Developer
Dolan Media Company
>>> Rick@WhiteStoneMedia.com 03/10/05 10:46AM >>>
Surely, since CF is so Java-based now (I'm still on 4.5.2), there ought to
be
a way for some of you Java gurus to build a tag that would accomplish this.
<CFDIRECTORY Action="Upload"...>
Author: Rick Faircloth
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198202
Thanks, Ian...
But I've given up on implementing a solution for directory uploads.
Too much trouble...I'll just give the client a page with 10 CFFILE upload
fields
so they can load 10 photos at a time that way. Just thought there would
be a way to do it more easily from within CF...
Surely, since CF is so Java-based now (I'm still on 4.5.2), there ought to
be
a way for some of you Java gurus to build a tag that would accomplish this.
<CFDIRECTORY Action="Upload"...>
Rick
Again ColdFusion/Macromedia have nothing to do with this, this is entirely
on the client end. You have to look to client technologies: such as
JavaScript, ActiveX, Java, C++ and many others. Of course as you head down
this road, you are quickly going to run into compatibility issues. For
example, ActiveX solutions are going to be Windows/IE only. You will also
run into security issues, for example if I turn off active x controls, then
I will not be able to use that solutions.
If you feel like sticking with Macromedia here is a quick Flash file upload
widget I found through Google. It is still single file, but I suspect it
could be tweaked to allow directory upload, but then again maybe not.
http://www.flashcfm.com/tutorials/flash_file_upload_082801/
--------------
Ian Skinner
Web Programmer
BloodSource
www.BloodSource.org
Sacramento, CA
"C code. C code run. Run code run. Please!"
- Cynthia Dunning
....-----Original Message-----
....
....Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 7:26 AM
....To: CF-Talk
....Subject: RE: How to Browse and Choose Directory...
....
....Thanks, Kola...
....
....I'll check into those...
....
....And the fact that these are so easily found and, apparently,
....some of them work so easily, shows that this can and has been done.
....Therefore, someone believes the functionality is worth the security
risk.
....
....I'm just surprised this was never implemented in HTML / CF...seems like
....such an obviously desirable and basic function...one step beyond file
....upload.
....
....Rick
....
....-----Original Message-----
....From: kola.oyedeji@iclployalty.com [mailto:kola.oyedeji@iclployalty.com]
....Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 10:21 AM
....To: CF-Talk
....Subject: RE: How to Browse and Choose Directory...
....
....
....Rick
....
....I briefly looked into this for an extension for Farcry, I basically
....wanted
....the user to be able to upload a directory of images on the local machine
....instead of having to select one image at a time, I came up with a list
of
....active-x controls and applets which could accomplish this,
....
....I don't have the list on this machine but I'll check my home pc later
....
....For now a quick google of file upload applet/active x turns up
....
....http://jupload.sourceforge.net/
....
....http://demo.softartisans.com/demo-291.aspx
....
....http://www.jscape.com/ftpapplet/ftp_applet_demo.jsp
....
....http://www.radinks.com/upload/demo.php (this one allows drag
and drop
....from
....the desktop :) ).
....
....How suitable they are will depending on your requirements and the
....security
....implications.
....
....HTH
....
....Kola
....
....
....> -----Original Message-----
....
....> Sent: 10 March 2005 14:59
....> To: CF-Talk
....> Subject: RE: How to Browse and Choose Directory...
....>
....> Hi, Ben...
....>
....> Now, I'm quickly getting out of my league with possible security
....> breaches, but isn't there someway to protect against unauthorized
....> intrusion into non-specified folders? Like FTP uses to lock a user
....> into a home directory?
....>
....> Again, as far as making sure that only the right documents are
....available
....> in a particular folder they specify for upload...that's on the
....user...if
....> you
....> were to choose to upload your business plan by mistake instead of the
....> photo of your cat...whose fault is that?
....>
....> Surely, there should be a way to allow directory upload while limiting
....> security risks. (Maybe not currently, but in future versions of HTML
/
....> CF)
....>
....> Rick
....>
....> -----Original Message-----
....
....> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 9:37 AM
....> To: CF-Talk
....> Subject: Re: How to Browse and Choose Directory...
....>
....>
....> > You know, the only reason I've heard discussed as to why directory
....> > contents can't be uploaded en masse like single files, is security.
....> >
....> > But what is the difference, except numbers of files, between a
client
....> > specifying a single file for upload vs. an entire directory for
....upload?
....> >
....> > I don't see what the security issue is...
....>
....> I want to upload an image of my cat stored in my "My Pictures" folder.
....> While the webserver is at it, it also grabs my pic. Or I want to
....upload
....> a fanfic in the My Documents folder, and my business plan gets ripped.
....> Or how about this: if you allow recursive directory scanning, if I
....> upload something from the root of C: you could scan the contents of my
....> entire HDD.
....>
....> --Ben
....>
....>
....>
....>
....>
....
....
....
....
Author: Ian Skinner
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198199
Again ColdFusion/Macromedia have nothing to do with this, this is entirely on the
client end. You have to look to client technologies: such as JavaScript,
ActiveX, Java, C++ and many others. Of course as you head down this road, you
are quickly going to run into compatibility issues. For example, ActiveX
solutions are going to be Windows/IE only. You will also run into security
issues, for example if I turn off active x controls, then I will not be able to
use that solutions.
If you feel like sticking with Macromedia here is a quick Flash file upload
widget I found through Google. It is still single file, but I suspect it could
be tweaked to allow directory upload, but then again maybe not.
http://www.flashcfm.com/tutorials/flash_file_upload_082801/
--------------
Ian Skinner
Web Programmer
BloodSource
www.BloodSource.org
Sacramento, CA
"C code. C code run. Run code run. Please!"
- Cynthia Dunning
...-----Original Message-----
...
...Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 7:26 AM
...To: CF-Talk
...Subject: RE: How to Browse and Choose Directory...
...
...Thanks, Kola...
...
...I'll check into those...
...
...And the fact that these are so easily found and, apparently,
...some of them work so easily, shows that this can and has been done.
...Therefore, someone believes the functionality is worth the security risk.
...
...I'm just surprised this was never implemented in HTML / CF...seems like
...such an obviously desirable and basic function...one step beyond file
...upload.
...
...Rick
...
...-----Original Message-----
...From: kola.oyedeji@iclployalty.com [mailto:kola.oyedeji@iclployalty.com]
...Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 10:21 AM
...To: CF-Talk
...Subject: RE: How to Browse and Choose Directory...
...
...
...Rick
...
...I briefly looked into this for an extension for Farcry, I basically
...wanted
...the user to be able to upload a directory of images on the local machine
...instead of having to select one image at a time, I came up with a list of
...active-x controls and applets which could accomplish this,
...
...I don't have the list on this machine but I'll check my home pc later
...
...For now a quick google of file upload applet/active x turns up
...
...http://jupload.sourceforge.net/
...
...http://demo.softartisans.com/demo-291.aspx
...
...http://www.jscape.com/ftpapplet/ftp_applet_demo.jsp
...
...http://www.radinks.com/upload/demo.php (this one allows drag
and drop
...from
...the desktop :) ).
...
...How suitable they are will depending on your requirements and the
...security
...implications.
...
...HTH
...
...Kola
...
...
...> -----Original Message-----
...
...> Sent: 10 March 2005 14:59
...> To: CF-Talk
...> Subject: RE: How to Browse and Choose Directory...
...>
...> Hi, Ben...
...>
...> Now, I'm quickly getting out of my league with possible security
...> breaches, but isn't there someway to protect against unauthorized
...> intrusion into non-specified folders? Like FTP uses to lock a user
...> into a home directory?
...>
...> Again, as far as making sure that only the right documents are
...available
...> in a particular folder they specify for upload...that's on the
...user...if
...> you
...> were to choose to upload your business plan by mistake instead of the
...> photo of your cat...whose fault is that?
...>
...> Surely, there should be a way to allow directory upload while limiting
...> security risks. (Maybe not currently, but in future versions of HTML /
...> CF)
...>
...> Rick
...>
...> -----Original Message-----
...
...> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 9:37 AM
...> To: CF-Talk
...> Subject: Re: How to Browse and Choose Directory...
...>
...>
...> > You know, the only reason I've heard discussed as to why directory
...> > contents can't be uploaded en masse like single files, is security.
...> >
...> > But what is the difference, except numbers of files, between a
client
...> > specifying a single file for upload vs. an entire directory for
...upload?
...> >
...> > I don't see what the security issue is...
...>
...> I want to upload an image of my cat stored in my "My Pictures" folder.
...> While the webserver is at it, it also grabs my pic. Or I want to
...upload
...> a fanfic in the My Documents folder, and my business plan gets ripped.
...> Or how about this: if you allow recursive directory scanning, if I
...> upload something from the root of C: you could scan the contents of my
...> entire HDD.
...>
...> --Ben
...>
...>
...>
...>
...>
...
...
...
...
Author: Micha Schopman
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198190
" >>are there no plans to expand this capability in HTML?"
No, there are no plans to expand this functionality. There have been
requests though to expand functionality in terms of pre-validation
filesize, and adding progress support but standards don't change from
day to day.
The only chance on such functionality is the implementation of
proprietary functionality per browser.
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Author: Rick Faircloth
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198189
Thanks, Kola...
I'll check into those...
And the fact that these are so easily found and, apparently,
some of them work so easily, shows that this can and has been done.
Therefore, someone believes the functionality is worth the security risk.
I'm just surprised this was never implemented in HTML / CF...seems like
such an obviously desirable and basic function...one step beyond file
upload.
Rick
Rick
I briefly looked into this for an extension for Farcry, I basically wanted
the user to be able to upload a directory of images on the local machine
instead of having to select one image at a time, I came up with a list of
active-x controls and applets which could accomplish this,
I don't have the list on this machine but I'll check my home pc later
For now a quick google of file upload applet/active x turns up
http://jupload.sourceforge.net/
http://demo.softartisans.com/demo-291.aspx
http://www.jscape.com/ftpapplet/ftp_applet_demo.jsp
http://www.radinks.com/upload/demo.php (this one allows drag
and drop from
the desktop :) ).
How suitable they are will depending on your requirements and the security
implications.
HTH
Kola
----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----
Author: kola.oyedeji
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198188
Rick
I briefly looked into this for an extension for Farcry, I basically wanted
the user to be able to upload a directory of images on the local machine
instead of having to select one image at a time, I came up with a list of
active-x controls and applets which could accomplish this,
I don't have the list on this machine but I'll check my home pc later
For now a quick google of file upload applet/active x turns up
http://jupload.sourceforge.net/
http://demo.softartisans.com/demo-291.aspx
http://www.jscape.com/ftpapplet/ftp_applet_demo.jsp
http://www.radinks.com/upload/demo.php (this one allows drag
and drop from
the desktop :) ).
How suitable they are will depending on your requirements and the security
implications.
HTH
Kola
----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----
Author: Claude Schneegans
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198187
>>are there no plans to expand this capability in HTML?
I'm not in the secret, but frankly, I doubt.
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Author: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198186
Erm, how is the server going to grab a file off your PC?
> You know, the only reason I've heard discussed as to why directory
> contents can't be uploaded en masse like single files, is security.
>
> But what is the difference, except numbers of files, between a client
> specifying a single file for upload vs. an entire directory for upload?
>
> I don't see what the security issue is...
I want to upload an image of my cat stored in my "My Pictures" folder.
While the webserver is at it, it also grabs my pic. Or I want to upload
a fanfic in the My Documents folder, and my business plan gets ripped.
Or how about this: if you allow recursive directory scanning, if I
upload something from the root of C: you could scan the contents of my
entire HDD.
--Ben
Author: Rick Faircloth
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198185
Hi, Ben...
Now, I'm quickly getting out of my league with possible security
breaches, but isn't there someway to protect against unauthorized
intrusion into non-specified folders? Like FTP uses to lock a user
into a home directory?
Again, as far as making sure that only the right documents are available
in a particular folder they specify for upload...that's on the user...if you
were to choose to upload your business plan by mistake instead of the
photo of your cat...whose fault is that?
Surely, there should be a way to allow directory upload while limiting
security risks. (Maybe not currently, but in future versions of HTML / CF)
Rick
> You know, the only reason I've heard discussed as to why directory
> contents can't be uploaded en masse like single files, is security.
>
> But what is the difference, except numbers of files, between a client
> specifying a single file for upload vs. an entire directory for upload?
>
> I don't see what the security issue is...
I want to upload an image of my cat stored in my "My Pictures" folder.
While the webserver is at it, it also grabs my pic. Or I want to upload
a fanfic in the My Documents folder, and my business plan gets ripped.
Or how about this: if you allow recursive directory scanning, if I
upload something from the root of C: you could scan the contents of my
entire HDD.
--Ben
Author: Ben Doom
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198182
> You know, the only reason I've heard discussed as to why directory
> contents can't be uploaded en masse like single files, is security.
>
> But what is the difference, except numbers of files, between a client
> specifying a single file for upload vs. an entire directory for upload?
>
> I don't see what the security issue is...
I want to upload an image of my cat stored in my "My Pictures" folder.
While the webserver is at it, it also grabs my pic. Or I want to upload
a fanfic in the My Documents folder, and my business plan gets ripped.
Or how about this: if you allow recursive directory scanning, if I
upload something from the root of C: you could scan the contents of my
entire HDD.
--Ben
Author: James Holmes
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198130
There are Java applets that can do this. I'm not sure if any are
open-source, but you might find something.
Interesting...are there no plans to expand this capability in HTML?
With the growth of broadband, more upload / download potential is needed.
One file at a time may have been suitable for '95, but not '05...
Rick
Author: Rick Faircloth
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198116
Interesting...are there no plans to expand this capability in HTML?
With the growth of broadband, more upload / download potential
is needed. One file at a time may have been suitable for '95, but not
'05...
Rick
>>I don't get it...is Macromedia just trying to protect itself by not
>>providing this functionality?
MM has nothing to do with this. This is an HTTP specification.
I remember back in 95 or so, one couldn't even upload a file larger than
about 64k.
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Author: Claude Schneegans
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>>I don't get it...is Macromedia just trying to protect itself by not
>>providing this functionality?
MM has nothing to do with this. This is an HTTP specification.
I remember back in 95 or so, one couldn't even upload a file larger than about
64k.
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Author: Rick Faircloth
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198110
Well...that's the user's problem...why not risk multiple files
with uploading if they're going to risk one?
I see your point about the greater risk, but that's where the user
needs to be cautious. I can't see not creating a function for uploading
an entire directory, which would be very useful, just to reduce security
risk...especially since only the user can be held responsible.
Besides, the same thing can accomplished with much more difficulty
using FTP to provide local access to the directory...
I don't get it...is Macromedia just trying to protect itself by not
providing
this functionality? Trying to protect users?
Rick
> But what if, like with file uploads, the user were designating
> a folder of files? What's the security difference?
For one thing, a user might not know about all the files within a directory,
so they could potentially be manipulated into uploading sensitive files. But
in any case, it doesn't matter, since you can't specify a directory to
upload from within an HTML form.
Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta,
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Author: Dave Watts
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198095
> But what if, like with file uploads, the user were designating
> a folder of files? What's the security difference?
For one thing, a user might not know about all the files within a directory,
so they could potentially be manipulated into uploading sensitive files. But
in any case, it doesn't matter, since you can't specify a directory to
upload from within an HTML form.
Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta,
Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location.
Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information!
Author: Rick Faircloth
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198093
But what if, like with file uploads, the user were designating
a folder of files? What's the security difference?
Rick
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Unfortunately, the way file uploads work via HTTP is very simple, and you
have no control over it. You can use the HTML INPUT tag to generate a file
upload dialog, and you have no control over that either. The only way to
bypass these limitations within HTML and HTTP would be to not use HTML and
HTTP. For example, some people have suggested ActiveX or Java solutions I
think. Those, of course, have their own problems.
As far as security goes, the key is that file uploads have to be
user-controlled. If you could specify what to upload from your server,
whether files or directories or whatever, that would be insecure from your
users' perspective.
Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta,
Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location.
Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information!
Author: Dave Watts
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198092
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Unfortunately, the way file uploads work via HTTP is very simple, and you
have no control over it. You can use the HTML INPUT tag to generate a file
upload dialog, and you have no control over that either. The only way to
bypass these limitations within HTML and HTTP would be to not use HTML and
HTTP. For example, some people have suggested ActiveX or Java solutions I
think. Those, of course, have their own problems.
As far as security goes, the key is that file uploads have to be
user-controlled. If you could specify what to upload from your server,
whether files or directories or whatever, that would be insecure from your
users' perspective.
Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta,
Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location.
Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information!
Author: Rick Faircloth
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198082
You know, the only reason I've heard discussed as to why directory
contents can't be uploaded en masse like single files, is security.
But what is the difference, except numbers of files, between a client
specifying a single file for upload vs. an entire directory for upload?
I don't see what the security issue is...
And, after working through some code, I've come to conclude that the
only way to upload more than one file at a time is to do what I've done
in the past...instead of a single CFFILE in a form, I would include 5
CFFILE's
in a form and the client could at least upload 5 files at a time, rather
than one.
I guess this is the only way, because I see that there's no way for
CFDIRECTORY
to read the contents of a users directory, even if they specify the
directory.
Oh well...it was a good discussion.
Thanks for the input everyone!
Rick
Interesting...thanks, Rebecca.
So, they would pick the first file, then I would use the path
of that file to upload the other files in their directory?
Rick
Here's a little javascript majick to do the trick. Create a little
javascript like this:
<InvalidTag type="text/javascript">
function getFile(f) {
f.directory.value = f.uploadFile.value;
}
</script>
Then in the body of the page, your form is like this:
<form action="" method="post" enctype="multipart/form-data"
name="uploadForm">
Browse to your file directory (pick a file): <input type="file"
name="uploadFile" size="35" onblur="getFile(this.form);"><br>
<input type="hidden" name="directory">
<input type="submit" value="submit">
</form>
When the form is submitted, it will pass the full path of the file that was
selected. Then you can use the CF function Get DirectoryFromPath(path) to
get just the directory path you want to use.
HTH.
Author: Ian Skinner
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198081
That will NOT do you any good. You will have a string containing the file path
of the uploaded file as it existed on the client system (a bit scary that). But
you can't do anything with it. The server can not, no how, no way access files
directly on the client machine. It does not happen, and you do not want it to
happen, or just imagine the hacking nightmares that could be inflicted on the
surfing public.
The SERVER is the SERVER and the CLIENT is the CLIENT and never shall the twain
intertwine.
CFDirectory and CFFile are for manipulating files accessible to the server. If
you dissect what happened when using CFFile action=upload. The Client's browser
read a file, encoded it and sent it to the web server, the web server wrote that
file to a temp directory. The CFFile tag then reads the file from the temp
directory and does what you request to do with it on the server. It is not
reading the file from the client.
If you want clients to be able to upload batches of files, check into FTP
solutions. There are many and they can be integrated into CF applications in
interesting ways.
--------------
Ian Skinner
Web Programmer
BloodSource
www.BloodSource.org
Sacramento, CA
"C code. C code run. Run code run. Please!"
- Cynthia Dunning
...-----Original Message-----
...
...Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 3:24 PM
...To: CF-Talk
...Subject: RE: How to Browse and Choose Directory...
...
...Interesting...thanks, Rebecca.
...
...So, they would pick the first file, then I would use the path
...of that file to upload the other files in their directory?
...
...Rick
...
...
...-----Original Message-----
...
...Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 4:52 PM
...To: CF-Talk
...Subject: Re: How to Browse and Choose Directory...
...
...
...Here's a little javascript majick to do the trick. Create a little
...javascript like this:
...<InvalidTag type="text/javascript">
...function getFile(f) {
...f.directory.value = f.uploadFile.value;
...}
...</script>
...
...Then in the body of the page, your form is like this:
...
...<form action="" method="post" enctype="multipart/form-data"
...name="uploadForm">
...Browse to your file directory (pick a file): <input type="file"
...name="uploadFile" size="35" onblur="getFile(this.form);"><br>
...<input type="hidden" name="directory">
...<input type="submit" value="submit">
...</form>
...
...When the form is submitted, it will pass the full path of the file that
...was
...selected. Then you can use the CF function Get DirectoryFromPath(path) to
...get just the directory path you want to use.
...HTH.
...
...
...
...
Author: Rick Faircloth
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198080
No, they were really good pictures of me *for* my wife... ;o)
Rick
Uh. These weren't pictures of your wife, were they?
I would be glad to sell them back to you...
M!ke
I must! It's the only way to get out of the doghouse with my wife! ;o)
Author: Rick Faircloth
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198079
Interesting...thanks, Rebecca.
So, they would pick the first file, then I would use the path
of that file to upload the other files in their directory?
Rick
Here's a little javascript majick to do the trick. Create a little
javascript like this:
<InvalidTag type="text/javascript">
function getFile(f) {
f.directory.value = f.uploadFile.value;
}
</script>
Then in the body of the page, your form is like this:
<form action="" method="post" enctype="multipart/form-data"
name="uploadForm">
Browse to your file directory (pick a file): <input type="file"
name="uploadFile" size="35" onblur="getFile(this.form);"><br>
<input type="hidden" name="directory">
<input type="submit" value="submit">
</form>
When the form is submitted, it will pass the full path of the file that was
selected. Then you can use the CF function Get DirectoryFromPath(path) to
get just the directory path you want to use.
HTH.
Author: Claude Schneegans
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198078
>>When the form is submitted, it will pass the full path of the file
that was selected. Then you can use the CF function Get
DirectoryFromPath(path) to get just the directory path you want to use.
Aren't you mixing client side and server side directories?
The form will pass the client side directory/filename while the CF
function Get DirectoryFromPath(path) can only return server directories
which have nothing in commen with client side.
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Author: Dawson, Michael
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198076
Uh. These weren't pictures of your wife, were they?
I would be glad to sell them back to you...
M!ke
I must! It's the only way to get out of the doghouse with my wife! ;o)
Author: Andrew Tyrone
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198075
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This still won't work. There is no way for CF to access the filesystem, no
matter what you do. Only the uploaded file will be available on the server.
CF just has access to the file after it is uploaded, not before -- ever.
Andy
Author: Rebecca Wells
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198071
Here's a little javascript majick to do the trick. Create a little javascript
like this:
<InvalidTag type="text/javascript">
function getFile(f) {
f.directory.value = f.uploadFile.value;
}
</script>
Then in the body of the page, your form is like this:
<form action="" method="post" enctype="multipart/form-data"
name="uploadForm">
Browse to your file directory (pick a file): <input type="file"
name="uploadFile" size="35" onblur="getFile(this.form);"><br>
<input type="hidden" name="directory">
<input type="submit" value="submit">
</form>
When the form is submitted, it will pass the full path of the file that was
selected. Then you can use the CF function Get DirectoryFromPath(path) to get
just the directory path you want to use.
HTH.
Author: Ian Skinner
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198034
Sorry, misspoke a bit. FTP sites aren't mapped to a drive letter, but can be
mapped to names in the "my network places" just under "My Computer". It is still
a drag and drop to move files from the local to the remote system.
--------------
Ian Skinner
Web Programmer
BloodSource
www.BloodSource.org
Sacramento, CA
"C code. C code run. Run code run. Please!"
- Cynthia Dunning
...-----Original Message-----
...From: Ian Skinner
...Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 1:13 PM
...To: CF-Talk
...Subject: RE: How to Browse and Choose Directory...
...
...As had been said several different ways, the server has no idea what is
...on the clients machine, CF will never work that way!
...
...This may not be that difficult if you can designate some FTP space on the
...server where clients can upload files to and then CF can get to them and
...do the rest of the processing. In windows, FTP sites can be attached to
...drive letters, thus the client could simply drag all the images from
...their "C" drive (physical hard drive) to their "I" drive (mapped FTP
...site). Of course lots more could be done with other FTP clients as well.
...
...HTH
...
...
...--------------
...Ian Skinner
...Web Programmer
...BloodSource
...www.BloodSource.org
...Sacramento, CA
...
..."C code. C code run. Run code run. Please!"
...- Cynthia Dunning
...
.......-----Original Message-----
.......
.......Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 12:57 PM
.......To: CF-Talk
.......Subject: RE: How to Browse and Choose Directory...
.......
.......Oh, yeah, yeah...I see what you're saying...I'm not thinking
...straight.
.......I can't pull files off the client's machine...
.......
.......But, wait...if I set up a CFFILE upload function that loops through
...the
.......directory that the client specifies...why wouldn't that work?
.......
.......I'm not accessing the client's machine (as Bryan mentioned),
.......the client has simply specified a directory for the CFFILE to look
...in.
.......
.......I would have the code loop through the directory that is specified,
......."C:\Photos" compile the list, the use CFFILE to upload each photo
.......to my server one at a time...
.......
.......Why wouldn't that work?
.......
.......Rick
.......
.......
.......-----Original Message-----
.......
.......Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 3:27 PM
.......To: CF-Talk
.......Subject: RE: How to Browse and Choose Directory...
.......
.......
.......The Cold Fusion server cannot see the client's machine, not even for
...the
.......one
.......file.
.......
.......The file is actually sent to the server by the client's browser as
...part
.......of a
.......form. The browser is the software that finds the file and uploads it.
...The
.......server cannot see any files on the client's hard drive.
.......
.......Let's say you did as intended and had the browser send the folder
...name to
.......the server as a form variable.
.......The server would receive something like "C:\My photos\"
.......The server would try to look in that folder, and not find any photos,
.......since
.......it would only have access to it's own C: drive, not the client's.
.......
.......Does this make sense?
.......
.......
.......Jerry Johnson
.......Web Developer
.......Dolan Media Company
.......
.......>>> Rick@WhiteStoneMedia.com 03/09/05 03:26PM >>>
.......It will be a folder somewhere on the client's machine...I have no
.......access to it.
.......
.......Just figured there was a way for a user to designate a directory in
...CF
.......by browsing their machine...
.......
.......
.......
.......
.......
.......
...
...
Author: Ian Skinner
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198033
As had been said several different ways, the server has no idea what is on the
clients machine, CF will never work that way!
This may not be that difficult if you can designate some FTP space on the server
where clients can upload files to and then CF can get to them and do the rest of
the processing. In windows, FTP sites can be attached to drive letters, thus the
client could simply drag all the images from their "C" drive (physical hard
drive) to their "I" drive (mapped FTP site). Of course lots more could be done
with other FTP clients as well.
HTH
--------------
Ian Skinner
Web Programmer
BloodSource
www.BloodSource.org
Sacramento, CA
"C code. C code run. Run code run. Please!"
- Cynthia Dunning
...-----Original Message-----
...
...Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 12:57 PM
...To: CF-Talk
...Subject: RE: How to Browse and Choose Directory...
...
...Oh, yeah, yeah...I see what you're saying...I'm not thinking straight.
...I can't pull files off the client's machine...
...
...But, wait...if I set up a CFFILE upload function that loops through the
...directory that the client specifies...why wouldn't that work?
...
...I'm not accessing the client's machine (as Bryan mentioned),
...the client has simply specified a directory for the CFFILE to look in.
...
...I would have the code loop through the directory that is specified,
..."C:\Photos" compile the list, the use CFFILE to upload each photo
...to my server one at a time...
...
...Why wouldn't that work?
...
...Rick
...
...
...-----Original Message-----
...
...Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 3:27 PM
...To: CF-Talk
...Subject: RE: How to Browse and Choose Directory...
...
...
...The Cold Fusion server cannot see the client's machine, not even for the
...one
...file.
...
...The file is actually sent to the server by the client's browser as part
...of a
...form. The browser is the software that finds the file and uploads it. The
...server cannot see any files on the client's hard drive.
...
...Let's say you did as intended and had the browser send the folder name to
...the server as a form variable.
...The server would receive something like "C:\My photos\"
...The server would try to look in that folder, and not find any photos,
...since
...it would only have access to it's own C: drive, not the client's.
...
...Does this make sense?
...
...
...Jerry Johnson
...Web Developer
...Dolan Media Company
...
...>>> Rick@WhiteStoneMedia.com 03/09/05 03:26PM >>>
...It will be a folder somewhere on the client's machine...I have no
...access to it.
...
...Just figured there was a way for a user to designate a directory in CF
...by browsing their machine...
...
...
...
...
...
...
Author: Rick Faircloth
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198032
I must! It's the only way to get out of the doghouse with my wife! ;o)
shhhh..don't tell ;-)
Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
phone: 250.480.0642
fax: 250.480.1264
cell: 250.920.8830
e-mail: bryan@electricedgesystems.com
web: www.electricedgesystems.com/tiny.cfm/54
Author: Katz, Dov B \(IT\)
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198031
Rick,
CFFILE has no way of knowing the client's file system...
CFFILE simply reads encoded data dumped into a HTTP request, converts it
to a temp file, and gives the CF code the path to the CF temp file.
The browser is the thing which encodes this data destined for the
server, and all the server can do is take what it's given. Therefore
CFFILE would never be able to read anything other than what the browser
gave it.
Even applets which offer you a "Select Folder" to upload, ultimately
encode each file into a separate form element, and send the bytes in the
request body to the server.
-Dov
Oh, yeah, yeah...I see what you're saying...I'm not thinking straight.
I can't pull files off the client's machine...
But, wait...if I set up a CFFILE upload function that loops through the
directory that the client specifies...why wouldn't that work?
I'm not accessing the client's machine (as Bryan mentioned), the client
has simply specified a directory for the CFFILE to look in.
I would have the code loop through the directory that is specified,
"C:\Photos" compile the list, the use CFFILE to upload each photo to my
server one at a time...
Why wouldn't that work?
Rick
The Cold Fusion server cannot see the client's machine, not even for the
one file.
The file is actually sent to the server by the client's browser as part
of a form. The browser is the software that finds the file and uploads
it. The server cannot see any files on the client's hard drive.
Let's say you did as intended and had the browser send the folder name
to the server as a form variable.
The server would receive something like "C:\My photos\"
The server would try to look in that folder, and not find any photos,
since it would only have access to it's own C: drive, not the client's.
Does this make sense?
Jerry Johnson
Web Developer
Dolan Media Company
>>> Rick@WhiteStoneMedia.com 03/09/05 03:26PM >>>
It will be a folder somewhere on the client's machine...I have no access
to it.
Just figured there was a way for a user to designate a directory in CF
by browsing their machine...
Author: Ben Doom
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198030
How do you know what's in the directory without accessing the client's
filesystem?
CFFILE's "upload" function is a little misnamed. What it actually does
is allow you to move/copy/modify the file that has already been pushed
to the server by the browser. CFFILE doesn't upload anything, it just
shows you what was uploaded.
Does that make sense?
--Ben
Rick Faircloth wrote:
----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----
Author: Aaron DC
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198029
Primarily because the <input type="file"... tag is a FILE input tag, not a
"select a directory" tag.
Aaron
----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----
one
> file.
>
> The file is actually sent to the server by the client's browser as part of
a
> form. The browser is the software that finds the file and uploads it. The
> server cannot see any files on the client's hard drive.
>
> Let's say you did as intended and had the browser send the folder name to
> the server as a form variable.
> The server would receive something like "C:\My photos\"
> The server would try to look in that folder, and not find any photos,
since
----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----
Author: Bryan Stevenson
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198028
shhhh..don't tell ;-)
Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
phone: 250.480.0642
fax: 250.480.1264
cell: 250.920.8830
e-mail: bryan@electricedgesystems.com
web: www.electricedgesystems.com/tiny.cfm/54
Author: Rick Faircloth
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198026
Come on, Bryan, fess up! Now I know where
all those photos went! I didn't misplace them, you grabbed 'em off
my computer! ;o)
Rick
Rick I don't think you have that kind of control over a client
machine...this is for security reasons.
Imagine if I could write an app to arbitraily grab files off your computer
without you expressly selecting the files ;-)
This si not to say there isn't a way of making life easier for the user
(easier than selecting each file seperately)....but I don't have an answer
for ya...perhaps someone else on the list does
Cheers
Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
phone: 250.480.0642
fax: 250.480.1264
cell: 250.920.8830
e-mail: bryan@electricedgesystems.com
web: www.electricedgesystems.com/54
Author: Rick Faircloth
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198027
Oh, yeah, yeah...I see what you're saying...I'm not thinking straight.
I can't pull files off the client's machine...
But, wait...if I set up a CFFILE upload function that loops through the
directory that the client specifies...why wouldn't that work?
I'm not accessing the client's machine (as Bryan mentioned),
the client has simply specified a directory for the CFFILE to look in.
I would have the code loop through the directory that is specified,
"C:\Photos" compile the list, the use CFFILE to upload each photo
to my server one at a time...
Why wouldn't that work?
Rick
The Cold Fusion server cannot see the client's machine, not even for the one
file.
The file is actually sent to the server by the client's browser as part of a
form. The browser is the software that finds the file and uploads it. The
server cannot see any files on the client's hard drive.
Let's say you did as intended and had the browser send the folder name to
the server as a form variable.
The server would receive something like "C:\My photos\"
The server would try to look in that folder, and not find any photos, since
it would only have access to it's own C: drive, not the client's.
Does this make sense?
Jerry Johnson
Web Developer
Dolan Media Company
>>> Rick@WhiteStoneMedia.com 03/09/05 03:26PM >>>
It will be a folder somewhere on the client's machine...I have no
access to it.
Just figured there was a way for a user to designate a directory in CF
by browsing their machine...
Author: Bryan Stevenson
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198025
Rick I don't think you have that kind of control over a client
machine...this is for security reasons.
Imagine if I could write an app to arbitraily grab files off your computer
without you expressly selecting the files ;-)
This si not to say there isn't a way of making life easier for the user
(easier than selecting each file seperately)....but I don't have an answer
for ya...perhaps someone else on the list does
Cheers
Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
phone: 250.480.0642
fax: 250.480.1264
cell: 250.920.8830
e-mail: bryan@electricedgesystems.com
web: www.electricedgesystems.com/54
Author: Jerry Johnson
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198024
The Cold Fusion server cannot see the client's machine, not even for the one
file.
The file is actually sent to the server by the client's browser as part of a
form. The browser is the software that finds the file and uploads it. The server
cannot see any files on the client's hard drive.
Let's say you did as intended and had the browser send the folder name to the
server as a form variable.
The server would receive something like "C:\My photos\"
The server would try to look in that folder, and not find any photos, since it
would only have access to it's own C: drive, not the client's.
Does this make sense?
Jerry Johnson
Web Developer
Dolan Media Company
>>> Rick@WhiteStoneMedia.com 03/09/05 03:26PM >>>
It will be a folder somewhere on the client's machine...I have no
access to it.
Just figured there was a way for a user to designate a directory in CF
by browsing their machine...
Author: Rick Faircloth
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198022
What if I tell the client to use the directory "D:\Photos" or whatever, and
hardcode
that into CF for looping and making the list of photos?
Rick
>>Now, I want to allow the client to choose a directory and then loop
>>through the photos and upload them at once.
I'm affraid this is not possible in HTML.
What I've done is have the client to zip all his images in one zip file,
even if it does not save space,
and send the file. Then I unzip then using CFEXECUTE on a batch file that
calls pkunzip.
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Author: Rick Faircloth
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198021
It will be a folder somewhere on the client's machine...I have no
access to it.
I was attempting to find a solution to allow a client to choose
a directory from within a CF page, like they do with the file form field
and its browse button. Only instead of selecting a file, they select
a directory.
Once they choose the directory, I would have CF get a list of the
files (photos) in the directory, loop over the list and upload the photos,
instead of having them choose the photos individually.
Just figured there was a way for a user to designate a directory in CF
by browsing their machine...
Rick
I think you may be intermingling client and server functions.
Is the folder in question on a network and accessible from a .cfm page using
cfdirectory?
or
Is the folder in question on the client's machine, remote from the server?
Jerry Johnson
Web Developer
Dolan Media Company
Author: Claude Schneegans
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198018
>>Now, I want to allow the client to choose a directory and then loop
>>through the photos and upload them at once.
I'm affraid this is not possible in HTML.
What I've done is have the client to zip all his images in one zip file, even if
it does not save space,
and send the file. Then I unzip then using CFEXECUTE on a batch file that calls
pkunzip.
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Author: Jerry Johnson
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198017
I think you may be intermingling client and server functions.
Is the folder in question on a network and accessible from a .cfm page using
cfdirectory?
or
Is the folder in question on the client's machine, remote from the server?
Jerry Johnson
Web Developer
Dolan Media Company
>>> Rick@WhiteStoneMedia.com 03/09/05 02:55PM >>>
Hmmm...seems like that would be a useful function for CF to have...
Anyway...I guess I can tell the client that they have to place all photos
in a particular folder, e.g., "Photo Upload Folder" and then just have CF
look there and upload whatever photos it finds once the client creates
a photo gallery.
Sound like a reasonable approach?
Author: Rick Faircloth
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198015
Hmmm...seems like that would be a useful function for CF to have...
Anyway...I guess I can tell the client that they have to place all photos
in a particular folder, e.g., "Photo Upload Folder" and then just have CF
look there and upload whatever photos it finds once the client creates
a photo gallery.
Sound like a reasonable approach?
Rick
I don't think that the file input type in HTML supports directories.
You might have some luck looking into ActiveX extesions, but (of course)
that kills cross-browser support....
--Ben
Rick Faircloth wrote:
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Author: Ben Doom
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#198013
I don't think that the file input type in HTML supports directories.
You might have some luck looking into ActiveX extesions, but (of course)
that kills cross-browser support....
--Ben
Rick Faircloth wrote:
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Author: Rick Faircloth
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:38884#197988
Hi, all...
This seems simple, but I haven't found a solution...
I've always had clients choose a single photo at a time
and used CFFILE to upload them one at a time into a photo gallery.
Now, I want to allow the client to choose a directory and then loop
through the photos and upload them at once.
How do I let the client browse and choose a directory like I've always
allowed
them to browse and choose a single file?
(CF 4.5.2)
Rick
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