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Author: Judith Dinowitz
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This is such a great definition that I put it up on Fusion Authority. Isaac, you
are immortalized! You are article 4500!
http://www.fusionauthority.com/Community/Article.cfm/ArticleID:4500
Judith
>A word that's repeated because other people are repeating it (like
>"AJAX") instead of a word that is repeated because it represents
>something which has intrinsic value (like "XML"). In some cases a
>"buzzword" may be representative of something which has intrinsic
>value (like "XML") if the word is repeated by someone who doesn't
>understand anything about it and they are repeating it because the
>word is being repeated by other
people.
Author: Gabriel Bulfon
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:41621#215368
Yes, thanks
Gabriel Bulfon
Email:gabriel@bulfon.com.ar
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Author: S. Isaac Dealey
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:41621#215358
A word that's repeated because other people are repeating it (like
"AJAX") instead of a word that is repeated because it represents
something which has intrinsic value (like "XML"). In some cases a
"buzzword" may be representative of something which has intrinsic
value (like "XML") if the word is repeated by someone who doesn't
understand anything about it and they are repeating it because the
word is being repeated by other people.
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s. isaac dealey 954.522.6080
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Author: Tony Weeg
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:41621#215330
Gabriel.
It simply means that its a overused word to describe something.
If we were talking cars, one of the buzzwords for cars today is "Hybrid".
If we were talking web communications technologies, a buzzword would
be "Webservices, and XML"
make sense?
tony
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Author: Gabriel Bulfon
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:41621#215323
Sorry, what is the meaning of buzzword ?
Gabriel Bulfon
Email:gabriel@bulfon.com.ar
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Author: Damien McKenna
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:41621#214233
> Well, "AJAX" is nothing more than a buzzword. People have
> been writing DHTML interfaces for years that do essentially
> the same thing.
<cfsetting mode="pedantic" />
"DHTML" is a buzzword and is nothing more than JS, CSS and DOM wrapped
up together.
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Author: Dave Watts
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:41621#214232
> Seriously tho... if you're using AJAX but not using XML, what's
> to differentiate that from simply using JS? (Asside from the
> buzz-word appeal.)
Well, "AJAX" is nothing more than a buzzword. People have been writing DHTML
interfaces for years that do essentially the same thing. However, using the
XMLHttpRequest object is a little bit different from using more traditional
mechanisms for fetching data from the server such as loading documents into
hidden frames, since you can do everything from within a single document.
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Author: Tanguy Rademakers
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:41621#214230
>Seriously tho... if you're using AJAX but not using XML, what's to
>differentiate that from simply using JS? (Asside from the buzz-word
>appeal.)
I was actually rather (pleasantly) surprised that i didn't have to encode my
response in an xml syntax in order to use it, but only because my needs were
*extremely* trivial and using the very minimum legal xml would have doubled the
size of my data packet. If i needed to return structured data (say i wanted to
populate a drop down or somesuch) then i'd certainly turn to XML rather than
start messing about with some form of delimited lists or other "roll your own"
methods.
Using SOAP based web services via js has two main issues: encoding a valid SOAP
request and parsing out the SOAP response. For the first, as Barney pointed out,
you rarely need to - every classic web app out there is a testament to what you
can do with post/get. As for client side xml handling, you could do quite a bit
with WDDX (which probably works in more browsers than XMLHttpRequest, but that's
kinda beside the point). It's a "bang for your buck" kind of argument (and i'll
freely admit that my attitudes to cross browser scripting were formed back in '98
;)
Author: Barney Boisvert
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:41621#214228
Nothing. Hence you'll be hard pressed to see me ever use the term
"ajax", instead preferring "JS Remoting". ; )
I believe (not being a buzzword maven) that "ajax" is not just the
async XML passing, but also the UI design technique as a whole, so
it'd include the DHTML and dynamic document rewriting stuff as well as
the actual remoting calls.
cheers,
barneyb
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Author: S. Isaac Dealey
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:41621#214222
Interesting...
I've done a good deal of asynch work with JS... none of it with "AJAX"
and hadn't really seen a need for it in all honesty... the only thing
that I'd heard about AJAX that even made me remotely consider the
possibility that at some point in the remote distant future it might
be semi-useful in some obscure way for some one-off task was the use
of XML. :P
Seriously tho... if you're using AJAX but not using XML, what's to
differentiate that from simply using JS? (Asside from the buzz-word
appeal.)
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s. isaac dealey 954.522.6080
new epoch : isn't it time for a change?
add features without fixtures with
the onTap open source framework
http://www.fusiontap.com
http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm
Author: RADEMAKERS Tanguy
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:41621#214215
Hello,
I'll second Barney's post with a big +1. For simple data passing, you
don't even need to use XML, let alone SOAP based web services - you can
get simple text strings and inject them directly in your layout. Google
XHConn for a nice little(43 lines) .js file that wraps the
XMLHttpRequest object (or MS equivalent) and will have you
getting/posting from your page in minutes. I guess you'd want to look
into a more complete framework (like CFAjax) for real work, but this
will get you up and tinkering in minutes (no need to create server
mappings, etc)
After all the brouhaha over AJAX in the last few months, the biggest
surprise for me was how simple it was.
/t
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