ColdFusion Cookbook

I'd like to announce the creation of a ColdFusion Cookbook. The site will be found at: www.coldfusioncookbook.com (not up yet) The idea is simple - provide a set of simple problems ("how do I do X") and solutions, as well as alternative solutions. (Since we all know CF provides many ways to skin the cat...) While the site isn't quite ready yet, I'd love to get some feedback on what you would like to see on the site. I hope to have something up within a few days and will post again when the initial site is launched. -- ======================================================================= Raymond Camden, Director of Development for Mindseye, Inc (www.mindseye.com) Member of Team Macromedia (http://www.macromedia.com/go/teammacromedia) Email    : jedimaster@mindseye.com Blog     : ray.camdenfamily.com Yahoo IM : cfjedimaster "My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda

Are you contibuting the content yourself or asking people to chip in with "recipes" too? ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more ----- -- CFAJAX docs and other useful articles: http://jr-holmes.coldfusionjournal.com/

It's definitely open to other people, in fact, I already have a few people lined up waiitng to share content. As much as I'd like to think I know it all, I certainly do not. :) -r > Are you contibuting the content yourself or asking people to chip in > with "recipes" too?

Hi Ray, Just a suggestion, but how about an OT area for CF related issues such as mail servers, o/s, networking, hosting, etc? Jenny I'd like to announce the creation of a ColdFusion Cookbook. The site will be found at: www.coldfusioncookbook.com (not up yet) The idea is simple - provide a set of simple problems ("how do I do X") and solutions, as well as alternative solutions. (Since we all know CF provides many ways to skin the cat...) While the site isn't quite ready yet, I'd love to get some feedback on what you would like to see on the site. I hope to have something up within a few days and will post again when the initial site is launched.

> While the site isn't quite ready yet, I'd love to get some feedback on > what you would like to see on the site. I hope to have something up > within a few days and will post again when the initial site is > launched. You may want to take a look at the way ActiveState does for Python and other languages. Their Python cookbook was bornonlie and was later pinted by O'Reilly: http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Python/Cookbook/ Massimo

Ray, I second Massimo's suggestion to model on. I can also serve (like Matthieu has volunteered) to be a potwasher for this. George ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

The site works pretty close to that. Categories lead to questions lead to entries. So you click on category X and see all the questions, you click on the question and get the full display. > Ray, > I second Massimo's suggestion to model on. I can also serve (like Matthieu > has volunteered) to be a potwasher for this. > > George -- ======================================================================= Raymond Camden, Director of Development for Mindseye, Inc (www.mindseye.com) Member of Team Macromedia (http://www.macromedia.com/go/teammacromedia) Email    : jedimaster@mindseye.com Blog     : ray.camdenfamily.com Yahoo IM : cfjedimaster "My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda

One of the great things about this ColdFusion discipline is the wealth of free, or nearly free material to learn from.   As we al lknow its next-to useless trying to find an up-to-date course on ColdFusion at a tertiary educational institution.  So I applaud Ray's initiative.   And with Ray's amazing knowledge and wisdom it's bound to be a wonderful thing.  I like the whole notion of "cookbook".  I've seen other cookbooks in other disciplines (one of my favourites a few years ago when i was tinkering with solder and wire and transistors etc was a electronics cookbook) But how will this be different to easycfm.com and communitymx.com?  Itn't it just duplicating what's already done? (incidentally I took a look around communitymx.com while they had a open house last week - most impressive. Far more wonderful content than I ever imagined was in there.) Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month

I think the difference will be in how the information is setup. It is my understanding that easycfm and communitymx are more general, like CFDJ. My idea for the cookbook is to be a bit more particular. I.e., every "article" is simply a question and an answer. So for example, "How do I email a form to myself?" So the site may not end up terribly different, but hey - resources are resouces. :) ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

Quite so, Ray!   Every resource is valuable.   I am always hunting up resources I've read about.   I'll see a hint or a tip someone will post somewhere, and I'll say to myself "that  will be useful for me one day," or "I'll be able to use that when I come to redevelop X site". The problem is always that it's just like my workshop.  When I come to fix the broken hinge on the back door, I can never remember where I saw that spare hinge five months ago and put it somewhere saying to myself "That'll come in handy one day". Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

There should definitely be a place to submit questions but then I'm sure you would/could easily become overwhelmed by the submissions until there is a large enough dataset to cover the general questions. ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

If I were doing this, I would allow other CF "chefs" to submit their recipes for the site...like the way most people build a real cookbook...a cookbook is usually a collection of recipes not just from one cook, but a collection from many...each complete from ingredients (requirements and options) to instructions on preparation (coding), resulting dish (CF solution), *and* presentation (how to implement the solution)... Hmmm...I think I'm getting hungry...  ;o) Rick ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

A man who has read a cook book ... nahhhh .. this can't be! lol whatever next ... If I were doing this, I would allow other CF "chefs" to submit their recipes for the site...like the way most people build a real cookbook...a cookbook is usually a collection of recipes not just from one cook, but a collection from many...each complete from ingredients (requirements and options) to instructions on preparation (coding), resulting dish (CF solution), *and* presentation (how to implement the solution)... Hmmm...I think I'm getting hungry...  ;o) Rick

I just see them when my wife has them open...and she does force me to watch the Food Channel with her.  ;o) I do cook my own breakfast of eggs, bacon, and sauteed mushrooms every morning, however... Rick > A man who has read a cook book ... nahhhh .. this can't be! lol > > whatever next ...

Hey now. I do all the cooking in my house. I've got a collection of cookbooks. I read them for fun, and for ideas. <!----------------//------ andy matthews web developer ICGLink, Inc. andy@icglink.com 615.370.1530 x737 --------------//---------> I just see them when my wife has them open...and she does force me to watch the Food Channel with her.  ;o) I do cook my own breakfast of eggs, bacon, and sauteed mushrooms every morning, however... Rick > A man who has read a cook book ... nahhhh .. this can't be! lol > > whatever next ...

Show-off!  ;o) ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

:) Not showoff. Amatuer gourmet. <!----------------//------ andy matthews web developer ICGLink, Inc. andy@icglink.com 615.370.1530 x737 --------------//---------> Show-off!  ;o) ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

Hey, if you personally own more than one cookbook, I'd call you a pro! Rick > :) > > Not showoff. Amatuer gourmet. >

bah.  you're all amateurs with your need for cookbooks. how hard is it really? 1) preheat oven to 375 2) pull back foil to reveal tater-tots ... ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

What's an oven? I cook in a microwave...faster... :o) Rick ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

Rick Faircloth wrote: > What's an oven? > I cook in a microwave...faster... :o) >   ~ahem~  back to the topic or be gone to Community with you... ;)

What was the topic?  Oh yeah, *CF* cookbook!  Right!  :o) ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

:) In my case it would be more like this: 1) Preheat oven to 375 2) Mix 1tbsp garlic poweder, 1/2 tsp cayenne pepper, 1/2 tbsp onion salt, oregano, salt, fresh ground black pepper to combine. 3) Saute shallots and minced garlic in butter 4) Cover bottom of 9x13 baking pan with frozen tater tots. 5) Layer shallots and garlic over tater tots, along with a liberal sprinkling of the garlic powder mixture. 6) Cover with gruyere cheese and bake for 30 minutes or until cheese is golden brown and bubbly on top. :) <!----------------//------ andy matthews web developer ICGLink, Inc. andy@icglink.com 615.370.1530 x737 --------------//---------> bah.  you're all amateurs with your need for cookbooks. how hard is it really? 1) preheat oven to 375 2) pull back foil to reveal tater-tots .... ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

Whoa!  I give, I give!  Too much for me to compete with! ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

errrrm .... do I even want to know what tater tots are?  Is it a form of grits I've not come across? lol :) In my case it would be more like this: 1) Preheat oven to 375 2) Mix 1tbsp garlic poweder, 1/2 tsp cayenne pepper, 1/2 tbsp onion salt, oregano, salt, fresh ground black pepper to combine. 3) Saute shallots and minced garlic in butter 4) Cover bottom of 9x13 baking pan with frozen tater tots. 5) Layer shallots and garlic over tater tots, along with a liberal sprinkling of the garlic powder mixture. 6) Cover with gruyere cheese and bake for 30 minutes or until cheese is golden brown and bubbly on top. :)

Think hashbrowns... > errrrm .... do I even want to know what tater tots are?  Is it a form of > grits I've not come across? > > lol >

I'd rather not, lol Think hashbrowns... > errrrm .... do I even want to know what tater tots are?  Is it a form of > grits I've not come across? > > lol

> errrrm .... do I even want to know what tater tots are?  Is it a form of > grits I've not come across? > You definitely need to run to your nearest video store and rent "Napoleon Dynamite." I know American humor isn't quite British humor, but tots are in it and it's just a hysterical movie otherwise. Regards, Dave.

I would cook breakfast for everyone, but no one else eats breakfast around here...strange people in this house... :o) Rick ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

Maybe they've tasted cooked breakfast out of a microwave before ;)?  lol I would cook breakfast for everyone, but no one else eats breakfast around here...strange people in this house... :o) Rick

Actually, only the bacon is cooked in the mw...nice and crispy! They don't want eggs, but they're always mooching off my bacon! :o) Rick > Maybe they've tasted cooked breakfast out of a microwave before ;)?  lol > >

At any rate... it's a good idea Ray lol .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com

Tsk, all the best cooks are men, they don't need to read books, the books are for the women. A man who has read a cook book ... nahhhh .. this can't be! lol whatever next ... If I were doing this, I would allow other CF "chefs" to submit their recipes for the site...like the way most people build a real cookbook...a cookbook is usually a collection of recipes not just from one cook, but a collection from many...each complete from ingredients (requirements and options) to instructions on preparation (coding), resulting dish (CF solution), *and* presentation (how to implement the solution)... Hmmm...I think I'm getting hungry...  ;o) Rick

rofl!  a brave man to argue cooking with a woman ;)  lol Tsk, all the best cooks are men, they don't need to read books, the books are for the women.

I'm not even going there...I've been married for 23 years, so I know better.  He must be a bachelor...  ;o) Rick > rofl!  a brave man to argue cooking with a woman ;)  lol >

Nope, my wife can't cook to save her life, just like almost every other women I know and nor do they want to, and the ones I know that can, hate doing it, they do it just because they have to. I'm the chef of the  house :-) Women only tended to cook because they had to, or because it was expected of them in my parents/grandparents day. Women these days hate cooking and generally see it as a chore for their lazy husbands who wont get off their fat asses and do anything for themselves. Nowadays it's a mans world and men enjoy doing it. Look at all the TV chefs. Anyway this is soooooo off topic Snake I'm not even going there...I've been married for 23 years, so I know better. He must be a bachelor...  ;o) Rick > rofl!  a brave man to argue cooking with a woman ;)  lol >

Well I happen to be an awsome cook. rofl!  a brave man to argue cooking with a woman ;)  lol Tsk, all the best cooks are men, they don't need to read books, the books are for the women.

Yes, eventually I think thatd be a good idea too. People could submit questions, registered users submit answers... You could even put a voting system in place... "Was this question/answer helpful" or whatever. That might make it easier for YOU to do some house cleaning monthly or so rather than monitoring every question/answer before letting it through. .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com There should definitely be a place to submit questions but then I'm sure you would/could easily become overwhelmed by the submissions until there is a large enough dataset to cover the general questions. ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

What about writing your own?  Or at least writing recipes for one? Russel Madere Webmaster 504.832.9835 SunShine Pages by EATEL www.sunshinepages.com Hey, if you personally own more than one cookbook, I'd call you a pro! Rick > :) > > Not showoff. Amatuer gourmet. >

Ray, This does sound like a great idea.  I can't claim to be expert enough to be writing any chef entries, but I am a PITA proofreader (folks never like me because I actually find all the errors--grin), and as a medium-level CFer, I know enough to be a sample user of the thing.  So, I'd love to help out in that capacity if possible.  I guess that means that I am volunteering to be a sous-chef, or maybe potwasher. As for specific ideas: 1) There are a lot of free resources out there that are fantastically useful on various other topics branching away from ColdFusion.  For example, sites that give SQL tutorials, etc.  When you get down to certain levels of detail in addressing topics, you could have links off to such sites, perhaps. 2) Examples examples examples!  Well-written explanations are great, but the more novice you are, the more examples you need to have it make sense, I think. HTH, Matthieu I'd like to announce the creation of a ColdFusion Cookbook. The site will be found at: www.coldfusioncookbook.com (not up yet) The idea is simple - provide a set of simple problems ("how do I do X") and solutions, as well as alternative solutions. (Since we all know CF provides many ways to skin the cat...) While the site isn't quite ready yet, I'd love to get some feedback on what you would like to see on the site. I hope to have something up within a few days and will post again when the initial site is launched. -- ======================================================================= Raymond Camden, Director of Development for Mindseye, Inc (www.mindseye.com) Member of Team Macromedia (http://www.macromedia.com/go/teammacromedia) Email    : jedimaster@mindseye.com Blog     : ray.camdenfamily.com Yahoo IM : cfjedimaster "My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda

rofl!  a brave man to argue cooking with a woman ;)  lol Oh I so should not be writing this e-mail as it is so off topic for cf-talk.  But I just could not let this go without comment. I will put my male cooking skills up against a women's any day.  I will not be a mach for a few, but that is a distinct minority. ------------- Ian Skinner 1993 Graduate Culinary Institute of America 10 Years Professional Culinary Experience 25 Years Personal Culinary Experience Does 100% of the cooking for my family. AKA Web Programmer BloodSource www.BloodSource.org Sacramento, CA "C code. C code run. Run code run. Please!" - Cynthia Dunning Confidentiality Notice:  This message including any attachments is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete any copies of this message.

"tater" slang for potatoes, "tots" small barrel shaped hash browns. Watch the wrapping. http://www.oreida.com/varieties/funshapes.aspx http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/07/Tatertots.png/250px-Tatertots.png http://www.supereggplant.com/archives/tatertot%20casserole.JPG http://images.gfxartist.com/images/ArtworkItem/image/92075.jpg Ok Ok, I know cf-community... but it started here... -------------- Ian Skinner Web Programmer BloodSource www.BloodSource.org Sacramento, CA "C code. C code run. Run code run. Please!" - Cynthia Dunning Confidentiality Notice:  This message including any attachments is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete any copies of this message.

My wife is from Nebraska, and up there they call them Bobbies. ~Brad Think hashbrowns... > errrrm .... do I even want to know what tater tots are?  Is it a form of > grits I've not come across? > > lol >

I'm from Nebraska.... and as far as I know a bobbie is an English policeman ?!? My wife is from Nebraska, and up there they call them Bobbies. ~Brad Think hashbrowns... > errrrm .... do I even want to know what tater tots are?  Is it a form of > grits I've not come across? > > lol >

indeed .. a nickname from Robert Peel who originated the police force in the UK.  They were first officially known as Peelers. How very interesting I am sure you are thinking .. and widely OT .... I'm from Nebraska.... and as far as I know a bobbie is an English policeman ?!? My wife is from Nebraska, and up there they call them Bobbies. ~Brad Think hashbrowns... > errrrm .... do I even want to know what tater tots are?  Is it a form of > grits I've not come across? > > lol >

> You definitely need to run to your nearest video store and rent > "Napoleon Dynamite." I know American humor isn't quite British humor, > but tots are in it and it's just a hysterical movie otherwise. This conversion has turned way OT, but I'll add my 2 cents. Are you sure they even have Napoleon Dynamite in the UK?  I know it's a huge hit over here, but they might not even know what it is.  It has a lot of our culture in it, after all...  ;) [INFO] -- Access Manager: This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law.  If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format.  Thank you.   A2

----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more ----- Yeah, sorry. This is it for this thread for me too. But I do have some friends that live over in Manchester, so it's over there somewhere! Regards, Dave.

American "culture" ... rofl ... > You definitely need to run to your nearest video store and rent > "Napoleon Dynamite." I know American humor isn't quite British humor, > but tots are in it and it's just a hysterical movie otherwise. This conversion has turned way OT, but I'll add my 2 cents. Are you sure they even have Napoleon Dynamite in the UK?  I know it's a huge hit over here, but they might not even know what it is.  It has a lot of our culture in it, after all...  ;)

My sons at BYU love Napoleon Dynamite, but I just don't get it. I guess my age is showing. Oh yeah, this is CF-Talk, I guess we are off topic. ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

Stan, I have a son in college as well...I don't think at this age we're supposed to get it... :o) Rick ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

So hopefully this won't' spawn another 100 message thread on food, but the ColdFusion Cookbook is launched: www.coldfusioncookbook.com. It is still in "beta" I suppose, but I'd love feedback. I have a lot of content thanks to Rob Brooks-Bilson and Jeremy Petersen. More content should continue to flow in as time goes by. More info here: http://ray.camdenfamily.com/index.cfm/2006/1/6/Get-Cooking-with-ColdFusion -- ======================================================================= Raymond Camden, Director of Development for Mindseye, Inc (www.mindseye.com) Member of Team Macromedia (http://www.macromedia.com/go/teammacromedia) Email    : jedimaster@mindseye.com Blog     : ray.camdenfamily.com Yahoo IM : cfjedimaster "My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda

Excellent job Ray! This is gonna prove to be really useful! Thanks, Will

Will you be adding a way to post comments on things put up?  One of the things I noticed that bit a developer in my group was the mentioning of Val() on this one: http://www.coldfusioncookbook.com/entry/15/You-need-to-test-a-string-to-see-if-it-is-a-valid-numeric-value . If the numeric number is rather large Val() will return the number in scientific notation.  I do not have a pre CFMX box to test it on, but from what I remember the developer had always done something along those lines prior to CFMX to get a number then it started to bomb out in MX. Of course it is way past my bed time so I might be remembering the details wrong on that one.  My question more of general curiosity on the design and the whole Val() stuff was just an attempt at maybe an example of where something could be put in by a person.

Aaraon - comments is planned. Just not complete. I'm most of the way done with it. > Will you be adding a way to post comments on things put up?  One of the > things I noticed that bit a developer in my group was the mentioning of > Val() on this one: > -- ======================================================================= Raymond Camden, Director of Development for Mindseye, Inc (www.mindseye.com) Member of Team Macromedia (http://www.macromedia.com/go/teammacromedia) Email    : jedimaster@mindseye.com Blog     : ray.camdenfamily.com Yahoo IM : cfjedimaster "My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda

Saw it, loved it, added to it. I like the site design too - so simple. > So hopefully this won't' spawn another 100 message thread on food, but > the ColdFusion Cookbook is launched: www.coldfusioncookbook.com. It is > still in "beta" I suppose, but I'd love feedback. I have a lot of > content thanks to Rob Brooks-Bilson and Jeremy Petersen. More content > should continue to flow in as time goes by. -- CFAJAX docs and other useful articles: http://jr-holmes.coldfusionjournal.com/

Very nice Ray, congrats... I like your search functionality - what methods did you use to show the relevant portion of the article in your search results? Is this verity? Cheers, Baz Saw it, loved it, added to it. I like the site design too - so simple. > So hopefully this won't' spawn another 100 message thread on food, but > the ColdFusion Cookbook is launched: www.coldfusioncookbook.com. It is > still in "beta" I suppose, but I'd love feedback. I have a lot of > content thanks to Rob Brooks-Bilson and Jeremy Petersen. More content > should continue to flow in as time goes by. -- CFAJAX docs and other useful articles: http://jr-holmes.coldfusionjournal.com/

Yes - Verity. Also note I offer suggestions, so if you typo, it will suggest a new term. I love Verity in CF. :) > Very nice Ray, congrats... I like your search functionality - what methods > did you use to show the relevant portion of the article in your search > results? Is this verity? > -r

Looks great Ray. Love the RSS feed and suggested search criteria. I'm curious though... what is that a picture of in the header? .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com Yes - Verity. Also note I offer suggestions, so if you typo, it will suggest a new term. I love Verity in CF. :) > Very nice Ray, congrats... I like your search functionality - what methods > did you use to show the relevant portion of the article in your search > results? Is this verity? > -r

Thanks. FYI - I added the Firefox RSS doohicky in the header so you can auto-subscribe from Firefox. The picture - I have no idea. I got the design from Open Source Web Design (oswd.org). To be honest, I couldn't design my way out of a hand bag. > Looks great Ray. Love the RSS feed and suggested search criteria. I'm > curious though... what is that a picture of in the header? > > ..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. > Bobby Hartsfield > http://acoderslife.com > -- ======================================================================= Raymond Camden, Director of Development for Mindseye, Inc (www.mindseye.com) Member of Team Macromedia (http://www.macromedia.com/go/teammacromedia) Email    : jedimaster@mindseye.com Blog     : ray.camdenfamily.com Yahoo IM : cfjedimaster "My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda

Man...I'm disappointed Ray...searched, but couldn't find anything on "tater tots"... ;o) (Sorry, couldn't help it...) Looks great and simple to use...I like the idea of comments. What are your thoughts about allowing people to register and setup their own gateway page, or perhaps, as Michael has done for HOF, allow users to tag entries they think are especially useful to them? Rick ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

Not too sure. I typically find that for sites like this - most people don't bother to register. How many people who use CFLib actually register? (Well, I do have 4k people on my email list. Anyone wanna buy an ad? ;) I'll consider it. > Man...I'm disappointed Ray...searched, but couldn't find > anything on "tater tots"... ;o) > > (Sorry, couldn't help it...) > -- ======================================================================= Raymond Camden, Director of Development for Mindseye, Inc (www.mindseye.com) Member of Team Macromedia (http://www.macromedia.com/go/teammacromedia) Email    : jedimaster@mindseye.com Blog     : ray.camdenfamily.com Yahoo IM : cfjedimaster "My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda

I don't know about CFLib...never used it. The question would be what benefit would their be to registering...I would certainly like to receive an email everytime an entry is made.  I can glance over the email and delete it or go to the site to flag it as important to me. And if registration gave me a way to build a "personal" library from the entries...yes, I would register...absolutely. I would probably rarely visit the site if the site doesn't reach out to me through email...I think that's key to any site's success today. I'm just always looking for ways to make content more useful and accessible to site users... ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

I'd agree with Rick here...those all sound like excellent ideas. Rick Faircloth wrote: ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

You could subscribe to the rss feed .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com I'd agree with Rick here...those all sound like excellent ideas. Rick Faircloth wrote: ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

Hi, Bobby... See my reply to Ray conerning the RSS... Rick ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

Yeah, that one hadn't come in yet when I posted that. Good points. I guess I prefer email over RSS myself as well. .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com    Hi, Bobby... See my reply to Ray conerning the RSS... Rick ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

Control + Enter does what in outlook? Good job me... anyway... I was GOING to finish that message by saying 'but if an RSS feed was all I had to work with, Id be fine with it.' .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com Hi, Bobby... See my reply to Ray conerning the RSS... Rick ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

On the topic of RSS, after going through a few readers that were not so great (Google's reader is pretty lame btw), I found a nice one (free) called Rocketinfo that is easy to sign up for and use.  It comes with several dozen feeds built in as well.  Here's the link. http://reader.rocketinfo.com/desktop/ -- Josh Nathanson ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

I hear you on the "reach out" part. Do note that there is an RSS feed. Would a simple "Enter email addy here to subscribe" be enough? I could then send email once a week, like CFLib. You've _never_ been to CFLib???? :) Can I ask why? ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

I've got RSS setup and Pluck installed, but after a month, I've never even bothered to look at it again...just not enough "to the point" material and just another information interface to have to deal with.  So far, I haven't gotten much out of RSS...but that may just be me... My primary interface for info is email...I'm in it all day everyday with clients, CF-Talk, etc., and having the info come there is much better for me...consolidation of sources takes less time for me to parse information. "Enter email..." would be perfect.  However, I don't like emails that address more than one specific point at a time. I would much rather have the topics come to me with the title and description *as they are entered* than have one email come to me with 15 different topics to have to deal with...same way I prefer getting a continuous stream of CF-Talk rather than a digest...I would have to parse through everything in the digest to see if there was anything of value or interest to me.  With constant streams of single topic emails, I can tell just by looking at the subject line whether to glance at the preview pane or quickly hit the delete key. Rick ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more ----- (http://www.macromedia.com/go/teammacromedia) ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

Oh...I missed your question about CFLib... I rarely use tags created by others...only twice have I done that since I started coding CF...at first it was out of ignorance and preferring to cook up my own solutions so I understood them well. Currently, however, the content on CFLib is irrelavent to me...it's for CF 5 and MX...I'm *still* using 4.5.2! 4.5.2 still does everything I need and when CF shifted to a Java-based (or however you would now describe it) the talk on CF-Talk got way beyond me really quickly, since I know nothing much of Java.  And the problems discussed were such that I couldn't relate to them and it scared me off from upgrading. But the main thing is, again, 4.5.2 will do whatever I've asked of it so far, runs flawlesslly...so "If it ain't broke..." ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more ----- (http://www.macromedia.com/go/teammacromedia) ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

Still a work in progress but a fantastic beginning. Great work as always Ray, and thank you for everything you do for the CF community. Cutter Raymond Camden wrote: ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

> From: Bobby Hartsfield >   > Control + Enter does what in outlook? Good job me... Great, now we're going to get a bunch of half finished emails on the list, as hundreds of people try that shortcut combo!  ;-) [INFO] -- Access Manager: This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law.  If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format.  Thank you.   A2

Haha... at least then... it won't just be me when I hit... .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com > Control + Enter does what in outlook? Good job me... Great, now we're going to get a bunch of half finished emails on the list, as hundreds of people try that shortcut combo!  ;-) [INFO] -- Access Manager: This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law.  If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format.  Thank you.   A2

> But the main thing is, again, 4.5.2 will do whatever I've > asked of it so far, runs flawlesslly...so "If it ain't broke..." 4.5.2 may not be broke, but MX 7 has a ton of productivity improving enhancements.  And the Java stuff is over-rated, I've never touched the Java side of MX myself.  I think the best thing that Java brings to CF is it is easy for Macrobe to port CF to other platforms. -------------- This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. A1.

I'm sure there are light years of improvement in features and productivity between 4.5.2 and MX 7...and when I come upon a business requirement that forces me to spend the app. $650 to upgrade, I will...but until then, I have no need. I'm just a one-man shop, bulding small websites and apps for customers...I and my clients don't have the need for speed that many of the larger websites and corporate intranets would have. I also know that every upgrade I've ever performed with major production software, from video production to Cold Fusion programming and serving, has had issues that have brought servers for customers to a halt and caused me to have to spend time sorting out issues.  Not to mention all the new "tricks of the trade" I'd have to learn, such as CFC's... I'd just as soon avoid that as long as possible. I do have a spare server right now that I could test on...but I'm too busy building sites and apps right now to bother with it. Perhaps soon I'll do some testing on a development server. What concerns me a lot more as a self-employed site and app builder is Microsoft's new OfficeLive or whatever the online version of MS Office is called...I see where they're going to offer one-stop shopping, including business websites as part of the package...that could really hurt me a lot more than not upgrading to MX 7... Rick ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----