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Flash Forms and the Microsoft Eolas Fix
Author: Kevin Aebig
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:45318#236951
A new version has been posted that takes care of CFChart as well.
!k
What do you think this is based off of?
Geoff over at Decomcept has had this out for a long time as a compliant
method of Flash detection and integration.
I've yet to contact him, but my plan is to use his script instead of the one
I currently have in place.
!k
You may load your flash stuff with the following javascript files which were
in the initial post.
http://blog.deconcept.com/flashobject/
This only fixes flash...
There's an even quicker fix if you take a look through some of the blogs
here.
http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna/index.cfm?searchterms=eolas&query=bySimpl
eSearch&searchsortby=date
Don't forget anyone loading realmeadia, quicktime and windows video files
are also effected.
Even though everyone is stating that this IE patch is only going to effect
the loading of controls on these type of files, the initial developer patch
that came out 2 years ago for this issue did have a pop-up dialog box that
the user needed to click, once for every flash or "Object" element on a page
regardless if they had user controls or not. You never know if your going to
have to go back and change your scripts again so good luck!
Casey
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Author: Kevin Aebig
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:45318#236926
What do you think this is based off of?
Geoff over at Decomcept has had this out for a long time as a compliant
method of Flash detection and integration.
I've yet to contact him, but my plan is to use his script instead of the one
I currently have in place.
!k
You may load your flash stuff with the following javascript files which were
in the initial post.
http://blog.deconcept.com/flashobject/
This only fixes flash...
There's an even quicker fix if you take a look through some of the blogs
here.
http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna/index.cfm?searchterms=eolas&query=bySimpl
eSearch&searchsortby=date
Don't forget anyone loading realmeadia, quicktime and windows video files
are also effected.
Even though everyone is stating that this IE patch is only going to effect
the loading of controls on these type of files, the initial developer patch
that came out 2 years ago for this issue did have a pop-up dialog box that
the user needed to click, once for every flash or "Object" element on a page
regardless if they had user controls or not. You never know if your going to
have to go back and change your scripts again so good luck!
Casey
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Author: Casey Dougall
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:45318#236920
You may load your flash stuff with the following javascript files which were
in the initial post.
http://blog.deconcept.com/flashobject/
This only fixes flash...
There's an even quicker fix if you take a look through some of the blogs
here.
http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna/index.cfm?searchterms=eolas&query=bySimpleSearch&searchsortby=date
Don't forget anyone loading realmeadia, quicktime and windows video files
are also effected.
Even though everyone is stating that this IE patch is only going to effect
the loading of controls on these type of files, the initial developer patch
that came out 2 years ago for this issue did have a pop-up dialog box that
the user needed to click, once for every flash or "Object" element on a page
regardless if they had user controls or not. You never know if your going to
have to go back and change your scripts again so good luck!
Casey
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Author: Kevin Aebig
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:45318#236916
Technically this should work for any Flash movie such as CFChart and normal
embedded movies alike. I highly doubt I could sell this to anyone and I
didn't do it for that reason anyhow...
The final home of this will be the following mini-site.
http://www.keslabs.com/stuff/eolas/
!k
> I don't suppose this tag would work for regular flash movies?
Look at previous posts in this thread (or maybe a similar thread, can't
remember). Someone has posted a link for a work around for normal flash
movies.
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Author: Munson, Jacob
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:45318#236911
> I don't suppose this tag would work for regular flash movies?
Look at previous posts in this thread (or maybe a similar thread, can't
remember). Someone has posted a link for a work around for normal flash
movies.
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Author: mark
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:45318#236908
Yeah, whats up with the mother ship? I have never used any flash until this
week (go figure). I am about to put a couple of navigation widgits up in
flash. So, I went to the Adobe site, expecting to see idiot proof
instructions (for people like me)..."put this code here, put this file there
and use this extension for Dreamweaver when embedding flash movies from now
on..."
Instead, there is a link to an ms article which, for someone not familar
with JScript, will take some study. I really figured there would be more
being as Adobe makes such a stink about the "flash platform". You would
think they would want to make this as painless as possible.
Thanks for your time and effort for all those folks using flashforms, maybe
you could sell your tag to Adobe?! I don't suppose this tag would work for
regular flash movies?
Mark
Don't sweat it. I'm sure a lot of folks were expecting something from the
mothership before anyone else came up with anything.
!k
Sorry, didn't mean to, but I tried a bunch of different solutions and
this is the first one that worked for me.
Steve
You sound surprised? =]
!k
It Worked! It Worked! Now to try it with more pages!
This might help the folks coming in late...
http://www.keslabs.com/stuff/eolas/tag.zip
!k
The issue is that I was trying to get away with having the JS embedded
within the page, but I guess it's moaning about that now.
Anyhow, with this version, there's a single attribute called JSPath. It
can
be a relative or absolute link for the JS file that's included.
So...
<cf_IEFlashFix jspath="http://mydomain.com/IEFlashFix.js">;
<cfform>
.........
</cfform>
</cf_IEFlashFix>
Cheers,
!k
I just found the issue. I'll post another version in about 10 minutes
that
should work as expected...
!k
I'd love to continue with it, but I'm getting little to no feedback. I
don't
have either the patch or IE7 beta installed, so I'm relying on others to
fill in the gaps.
All I'm doing is parsing out the output from the CFForm, and embedding
it
with JS using a Flash Object. If I can get it to run with CFForms, I'll
revamp it to handle regular SWF's as well as tweak it for CFChart.
I'm actually quite stunned that it didn't work as expected for Steve...
!k
Kevin,
Just wondering where you're at with this fix. I'm writing an article
about
this, and would like to include any current fixes specifically aimed at
ColdFusion. FYI, in my research, I found a reference to this fix from
Jason
Ripper, who claims that it will work for ColdFusion-generated Flash
forms.
He says that all you have to do is place his code in either the header
or
the footer, and it will cause all ActiveX elements to activate:
http://therippa.blogspot.com/2006/03/activateactivex.html
I have no idea if this works as he claims, or if this is what you were
thinking. Please let me know if you have an alternative to his solution
to
include in my article.
Thanks,
Judith Dinowitz
Editor
Fusion Authority
http://www.fusionauthority.com
>Yeah, that's technically possible. I'm going for full compliance with
XHTML,
>so you can either have it output to a DIV or simply output.
>
>!k
Author: Kevin Aebig
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:45318#236902
Don't sweat it. I'm sure a lot of folks were expecting something from the
mothership before anyone else came up with anything.
!k
Sorry, didn't mean to, but I tried a bunch of different solutions and
this is the first one that worked for me.
Steve
You sound surprised? =]
!k
It Worked! It Worked! Now to try it with more pages!
This might help the folks coming in late...
http://www.keslabs.com/stuff/eolas/tag.zip
!k
The issue is that I was trying to get away with having the JS embedded
within the page, but I guess it's moaning about that now.
Anyhow, with this version, there's a single attribute called JSPath. It
can
be a relative or absolute link for the JS file that's included.
So...
<cf_IEFlashFix jspath="http://mydomain.com/IEFlashFix.js">;
<cfform>
........
</cfform>
</cf_IEFlashFix>
Cheers,
!k
I just found the issue. I'll post another version in about 10 minutes
that
should work as expected...
!k
I'd love to continue with it, but I'm getting little to no feedback. I
don't
have either the patch or IE7 beta installed, so I'm relying on others to
fill in the gaps.
All I'm doing is parsing out the output from the CFForm, and embedding
it
with JS using a Flash Object. If I can get it to run with CFForms, I'll
revamp it to handle regular SWF's as well as tweak it for CFChart.
I'm actually quite stunned that it didn't work as expected for Steve...
!k
Kevin,
Just wondering where you're at with this fix. I'm writing an article
about
this, and would like to include any current fixes specifically aimed at
ColdFusion. FYI, in my research, I found a reference to this fix from
Jason
Ripper, who claims that it will work for ColdFusion-generated Flash
forms.
He says that all you have to do is place his code in either the header
or
the footer, and it will cause all ActiveX elements to activate:
http://therippa.blogspot.com/2006/03/activateactivex.html
I have no idea if this works as he claims, or if this is what you were
thinking. Please let me know if you have an alternative to his solution
to
include in my article.
Thanks,
Judith Dinowitz
Editor
Fusion Authority
http://www.fusionauthority.com
>Yeah, that's technically possible. I'm going for full compliance with
XHTML,
>so you can either have it output to a DIV or simply output.
>
>!k
Author: DURETTE, STEVEN J \(ASI-AIT\)
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:45318#236901
Sorry, didn't mean to, but I tried a bunch of different solutions and
this is the first one that worked for me.
Steve
You sound surprised? =]
!k
It Worked! It Worked! Now to try it with more pages!
This might help the folks coming in late...
http://www.keslabs.com/stuff/eolas/tag.zip
!k
The issue is that I was trying to get away with having the JS embedded
within the page, but I guess it's moaning about that now.
Anyhow, with this version, there's a single attribute called JSPath. It
can
be a relative or absolute link for the JS file that's included.
So...
<cf_IEFlashFix jspath="http://mydomain.com/IEFlashFix.js">;
<cfform>
.......
</cfform>
</cf_IEFlashFix>
Cheers,
!k
I just found the issue. I'll post another version in about 10 minutes
that
should work as expected...
!k
I'd love to continue with it, but I'm getting little to no feedback. I
don't
have either the patch or IE7 beta installed, so I'm relying on others to
fill in the gaps.
All I'm doing is parsing out the output from the CFForm, and embedding
it
with JS using a Flash Object. If I can get it to run with CFForms, I'll
revamp it to handle regular SWF's as well as tweak it for CFChart.
I'm actually quite stunned that it didn't work as expected for Steve...
!k
Kevin,
Just wondering where you're at with this fix. I'm writing an article
about
this, and would like to include any current fixes specifically aimed at
ColdFusion. FYI, in my research, I found a reference to this fix from
Jason
Ripper, who claims that it will work for ColdFusion-generated Flash
forms.
He says that all you have to do is place his code in either the header
or
the footer, and it will cause all ActiveX elements to activate:
http://therippa.blogspot.com/2006/03/activateactivex.html
I have no idea if this works as he claims, or if this is what you were
thinking. Please let me know if you have an alternative to his solution
to
include in my article.
Thanks,
Judith Dinowitz
Editor
Fusion Authority
http://www.fusionauthority.com
>Yeah, that's technically possible. I'm going for full compliance with
XHTML,
>so you can either have it output to a DIV or simply output.
>
>!k
Author: Kevin Aebig
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:45318#236899
You sound surprised? =]
!k
It Worked! It Worked! Now to try it with more pages!
This might help the folks coming in late...
http://www.keslabs.com/stuff/eolas/tag.zip
!k
The issue is that I was trying to get away with having the JS embedded
within the page, but I guess it's moaning about that now.
Anyhow, with this version, there's a single attribute called JSPath. It
can
be a relative or absolute link for the JS file that's included.
So...
<cf_IEFlashFix jspath="http://mydomain.com/IEFlashFix.js">;
<cfform>
......
</cfform>
</cf_IEFlashFix>
Cheers,
!k
I just found the issue. I'll post another version in about 10 minutes
that
should work as expected...
!k
I'd love to continue with it, but I'm getting little to no feedback. I
don't
have either the patch or IE7 beta installed, so I'm relying on others to
fill in the gaps.
All I'm doing is parsing out the output from the CFForm, and embedding
it
with JS using a Flash Object. If I can get it to run with CFForms, I'll
revamp it to handle regular SWF's as well as tweak it for CFChart.
I'm actually quite stunned that it didn't work as expected for Steve...
!k
Kevin,
Just wondering where you're at with this fix. I'm writing an article
about
this, and would like to include any current fixes specifically aimed at
ColdFusion. FYI, in my research, I found a reference to this fix from
Jason
Ripper, who claims that it will work for ColdFusion-generated Flash
forms.
He says that all you have to do is place his code in either the header
or
the footer, and it will cause all ActiveX elements to activate:
http://therippa.blogspot.com/2006/03/activateactivex.html
I have no idea if this works as he claims, or if this is what you were
thinking. Please let me know if you have an alternative to his solution
to
include in my article.
Thanks,
Judith Dinowitz
Editor
Fusion Authority
http://www.fusionauthority.com
>Yeah, that's technically possible. I'm going for full compliance with
XHTML,
>so you can either have it output to a DIV or simply output.
>
>!k
Author: DURETTE, STEVEN J \(ASI-AIT\)
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:45318#236891
It Worked! It Worked! Now to try it with more pages!
This might help the folks coming in late...
http://www.keslabs.com/stuff/eolas/tag.zip
!k
The issue is that I was trying to get away with having the JS embedded
within the page, but I guess it's moaning about that now.
Anyhow, with this version, there's a single attribute called JSPath. It
can
be a relative or absolute link for the JS file that's included.
So...
<cf_IEFlashFix jspath="http://mydomain.com/IEFlashFix.js">;
<cfform>
.....
</cfform>
</cf_IEFlashFix>
Cheers,
!k
I just found the issue. I'll post another version in about 10 minutes
that
should work as expected...
!k
I'd love to continue with it, but I'm getting little to no feedback. I
don't
have either the patch or IE7 beta installed, so I'm relying on others to
fill in the gaps.
All I'm doing is parsing out the output from the CFForm, and embedding
it
with JS using a Flash Object. If I can get it to run with CFForms, I'll
revamp it to handle regular SWF's as well as tweak it for CFChart.
I'm actually quite stunned that it didn't work as expected for Steve...
!k
Kevin,
Just wondering where you're at with this fix. I'm writing an article
about
this, and would like to include any current fixes specifically aimed at
ColdFusion. FYI, in my research, I found a reference to this fix from
Jason
Ripper, who claims that it will work for ColdFusion-generated Flash
forms.
He says that all you have to do is place his code in either the header
or
the footer, and it will cause all ActiveX elements to activate:
http://therippa.blogspot.com/2006/03/activateactivex.html
I have no idea if this works as he claims, or if this is what you were
thinking. Please let me know if you have an alternative to his solution
to
include in my article.
Thanks,
Judith Dinowitz
Editor
Fusion Authority
http://www.fusionauthority.com
>Yeah, that's technically possible. I'm going for full compliance with
XHTML,
>so you can either have it output to a DIV or simply output.
>
>!k
Author: Kevin Aebig
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:45318#236889
This might help the folks coming in late...
http://www.keslabs.com/stuff/eolas/tag.zip
!k
The issue is that I was trying to get away with having the JS embedded
within the page, but I guess it's moaning about that now.
Anyhow, with this version, there's a single attribute called JSPath. It can
be a relative or absolute link for the JS file that's included.
So...
<cf_IEFlashFix jspath="http://mydomain.com/IEFlashFix.js">;
<cfform>
....
</cfform>
</cf_IEFlashFix>
Cheers,
!k
I just found the issue. I'll post another version in about 10 minutes that
should work as expected...
!k
I'd love to continue with it, but I'm getting little to no feedback. I don't
have either the patch or IE7 beta installed, so I'm relying on others to
fill in the gaps.
All I'm doing is parsing out the output from the CFForm, and embedding it
with JS using a Flash Object. If I can get it to run with CFForms, I'll
revamp it to handle regular SWF's as well as tweak it for CFChart.
I'm actually quite stunned that it didn't work as expected for Steve...
!k
Kevin,
Just wondering where you're at with this fix. I'm writing an article about
this, and would like to include any current fixes specifically aimed at
ColdFusion. FYI, in my research, I found a reference to this fix from Jason
Ripper, who claims that it will work for ColdFusion-generated Flash forms.
He says that all you have to do is place his code in either the header or
the footer, and it will cause all ActiveX elements to activate:
http://therippa.blogspot.com/2006/03/activateactivex.html
I have no idea if this works as he claims, or if this is what you were
thinking. Please let me know if you have an alternative to his solution to
include in my article.
Thanks,
Judith Dinowitz
Editor
Fusion Authority
http://www.fusionauthority.com
>Yeah, that's technically possible. I'm going for full compliance with
XHTML,
>so you can either have it output to a DIV or simply output.
>
>!k
Author: Kevin Aebig
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:45318#236887
The issue is that I was trying to get away with having the JS embedded
within the page, but I guess it's moaning about that now.
Anyhow, with this version, there's a single attribute called JSPath. It can
be a relative or absolute link for the JS file that's included.
So...
<cf_IEFlashFix jspath="http://mydomain.com/IEFlashFix.js">;
<cfform>
...
</cfform>
</cf_IEFlashFix>
Cheers,
!k
I just found the issue. I'll post another version in about 10 minutes that
should work as expected...
!k
I'd love to continue with it, but I'm getting little to no feedback. I don't
have either the patch or IE7 beta installed, so I'm relying on others to
fill in the gaps.
All I'm doing is parsing out the output from the CFForm, and embedding it
with JS using a Flash Object. If I can get it to run with CFForms, I'll
revamp it to handle regular SWF's as well as tweak it for CFChart.
I'm actually quite stunned that it didn't work as expected for Steve...
!k
Kevin,
Just wondering where you're at with this fix. I'm writing an article about
this, and would like to include any current fixes specifically aimed at
ColdFusion. FYI, in my research, I found a reference to this fix from Jason
Ripper, who claims that it will work for ColdFusion-generated Flash forms.
He says that all you have to do is place his code in either the header or
the footer, and it will cause all ActiveX elements to activate:
http://therippa.blogspot.com/2006/03/activateactivex.html
I have no idea if this works as he claims, or if this is what you were
thinking. Please let me know if you have an alternative to his solution to
include in my article.
Thanks,
Judith Dinowitz
Editor
Fusion Authority
http://www.fusionauthority.com
>Yeah, that's technically possible. I'm going for full compliance with
XHTML,
>so you can either have it output to a DIV or simply output.
>
>!k
Author: Kevin Aebig
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:45318#236884
I just found the issue. I'll post another version in about 10 minutes that
should work as expected...
!k
I'd love to continue with it, but I'm getting little to no feedback. I don't
have either the patch or IE7 beta installed, so I'm relying on others to
fill in the gaps.
All I'm doing is parsing out the output from the CFForm, and embedding it
with JS using a Flash Object. If I can get it to run with CFForms, I'll
revamp it to handle regular SWF's as well as tweak it for CFChart.
I'm actually quite stunned that it didn't work as expected for Steve...
!k
Kevin,
Just wondering where you're at with this fix. I'm writing an article about
this, and would like to include any current fixes specifically aimed at
ColdFusion. FYI, in my research, I found a reference to this fix from Jason
Ripper, who claims that it will work for ColdFusion-generated Flash forms.
He says that all you have to do is place his code in either the header or
the footer, and it will cause all ActiveX elements to activate:
http://therippa.blogspot.com/2006/03/activateactivex.html
I have no idea if this works as he claims, or if this is what you were
thinking. Please let me know if you have an alternative to his solution to
include in my article.
Thanks,
Judith Dinowitz
Editor
Fusion Authority
http://www.fusionauthority.com
>Yeah, that's technically possible. I'm going for full compliance with
XHTML,
>so you can either have it output to a DIV or simply output.
>
>!k
Author: Kevin Aebig
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:45318#236883
I'd love to continue with it, but I'm getting little to no feedback. I don't
have either the patch or IE7 beta installed, so I'm relying on others to
fill in the gaps.
All I'm doing is parsing out the output from the CFForm, and embedding it
with JS using a Flash Object. If I can get it to run with CFForms, I'll
revamp it to handle regular SWF's as well as tweak it for CFChart.
I'm actually quite stunned that it didn't work as expected for Steve...
!k
Kevin,
Just wondering where you're at with this fix. I'm writing an article about
this, and would like to include any current fixes specifically aimed at
ColdFusion. FYI, in my research, I found a reference to this fix from Jason
Ripper, who claims that it will work for ColdFusion-generated Flash forms.
He says that all you have to do is place his code in either the header or
the footer, and it will cause all ActiveX elements to activate:
http://therippa.blogspot.com/2006/03/activateactivex.html
I have no idea if this works as he claims, or if this is what you were
thinking. Please let me know if you have an alternative to his solution to
include in my article.
Thanks,
Judith Dinowitz
Editor
Fusion Authority
http://www.fusionauthority.com
>Yeah, that's technically possible. I'm going for full compliance with
XHTML,
>so you can either have it output to a DIV or simply output.
>
>!k
Author: DURETTE, STEVEN J \(ASI-AIT\)
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:45318#236873
I just tried the footer version of the script put out by Jason Ripper.
(I put it after the closing html tag)
I get the following error: "Internet Explorer has blocked this site from
using an ActiveX control in an unsafe manner. As a result, this page may
not display correctly."
The one that goes in the header won't work for me because we use
window.onload.
Kevin,
Just wondering where you're at with this fix. I'm writing an article
about this, and would like to include any current fixes specifically
aimed at ColdFusion. FYI, in my research, I found a reference to this
fix from Jason Ripper, who claims that it will work for
ColdFusion-generated Flash forms. He says that all you have to do is
place his code in either the header or the footer, and it will cause all
ActiveX elements to activate:
http://therippa.blogspot.com/2006/03/activateactivex.html
I have no idea if this works as he claims, or if this is what you were
thinking. Please let me know if you have an alternative to his solution
to include in my article.
Thanks,
Judith Dinowitz
Editor
Fusion Authority
http://www.fusionauthority.com
>Yeah, that's technically possible. I'm going for full compliance with
XHTML,
>so you can either have it output to a DIV or simply output.
>
>!k
Author: James Holmes
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:45318#236872
Ooh, thanks for the link - I'm going to try this one out.
> Kevin,
>
> Just wondering where you're at with this fix. I'm writing an article about
this, and would like to include any current fixes specifically aimed at
ColdFusion. FYI, in my research, I found a reference to this fix from Jason
Ripper, who claims that it will work for ColdFusion-generated Flash forms. He
says that all you have to do is place his code in either the header or the
footer, and it will cause all ActiveX elements to activate:
>
> http://therippa.blogspot.com/2006/03/activateactivex.html
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Author: Judith Dinowitz
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Kevin,
Just wondering where you're at with this fix. I'm writing an article about this,
and would like to include any current fixes specifically aimed at ColdFusion.
FYI, in my research, I found a reference to this fix from Jason Ripper, who
claims that it will work for ColdFusion-generated Flash forms. He says that all
you have to do is place his code in either the header or the footer, and it will
cause all ActiveX elements to activate:
http://therippa.blogspot.com/2006/03/activateactivex.html
I have no idea if this works as he claims, or if this is what you were thinking.
Please let me know if you have an alternative to his solution to include in my
article.
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>Yeah, that's technically possible. I'm going for full compliance with XHTML,
>so you can either have it output to a DIV or simply output.
>
>!k
Author: Casey Dougall
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:45318#236641
Ok, so of course this was all in the works years ago. I'm surprised
Microsoft could hold them off as long as they did.
Eolas > US Patent 5,838,906
http://www.w3.org/2003/09/public-faq
The Really Funny thing is... This a patent and then we all saw on the
message lists the following NEW Patent which if I look at the types of
applications if effects end up being the same set as those in the Eolas
Patent... Isn't this the same thing???
U.S. Grants Patent For Broad Range Of Internet Rich Applications
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The patent--issued on Valentine's Day--covers all rich-media technology
implementations, including Flash, Flex, Java, Ajax, and XAML, when the
rich-media application is accessed on any device over the Internet,
according to the patent holders.
http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:233310
Author: Kevin Aebig
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Yeah, that's technically possible. I'm going for full compliance with XHTML,
so you can either have it output to a DIV or simply output.
!k
Yes, flash detection would be great. Would your tag work for reg. flash
movies called by a cfm?
What would your flash detection do? Would I be able to enter a redirect as
an attribute?
Thanks,
Mark
BTW... does anyone want Flash detection built in?
!k
Author: mark
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Yes, flash detection would be great. Would your tag work for reg. flash
movies called by a cfm?
What would your flash detection do? Would I be able to enter a redirect as
an attribute?
Thanks,
Mark
BTW... does anyone want Flash detection built in?
!k
Author: Kevin Aebig
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BTW... does anyone want Flash detection built in?
!k
As I mentioned, I've nearly got a custom tag fix completed.
!k
> It's not like MS haven't published the workaround *years ago*.
> Macromedia also updated their recommend 'how to embed Flash' code too.
That's nice, but what about CF's flash forms and cfchart?
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Author: Kevin Aebig
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As I mentioned, I've nearly got a custom tag fix completed.
!k
> It's not like MS haven't published the workaround *years ago*.
> Macromedia also updated their recommend 'how to embed Flash' code too.
That's nice, but what about CF's flash forms and cfchart?
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Author: Munson, Jacob
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> It's not like MS haven't published the workaround *years ago*.
> Macromedia also updated their recommend 'how to embed Flash' code too.
That's nice, but what about CF's flash forms and cfchart?
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Author: Thomas Chiverton
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> Microsoft is adding the non-security related patch to it's IE security
> patch, so if you want to be able to plug the latest IE hole that is
> currently being exploited, you have to accept this also.
It's not like MS haven't published the workaround *years ago*.
Macromedia also updated their recommend 'how to embed Flash' code too.
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Author: Munson, Jacob
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Right. I just ran into such an ActiveX control last night, with my new
laptop. HP's update site installs a custom control to scan your
machine. It even checked the fragmentation level of my hard drive! Not
sure I'll ever run that again, but I was curious.
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Author: Dave Watts
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> I guess I'm confused again. I thought that IE uses ActiveX
> to dynamically launch and display plugin based content. So
> in our case, if we dump a flash form on our page, IE uses
> ActiveX to load up the Flash player.
Yes, that's correct. But that's a little different from if, say, I wrote an
ActiveX control of my own to do some specific task and put a reference to
that in a web page. This is pretty rare, nowadays - it's too much work for
too little return. Had this kind of use of ActiveX become more common, it
would be much more detrimental to Microsoft to have that stop working. On
the other hand, I doubt they're too broken up about Flash apps not working
smoothly.
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Author: Munson, Jacob
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> In Internet technology, I mean an Internet standard, (call it
> W3C), not
> a Microsoft nor Mozilla nor Macromedia
> nor Adobe or whatever standard.
Yeah, those are industry standards, and I love and support them. The
problem is that the standards are useless unless the technology supports
them. IE has 80% market share in the US (larger elsewhere), so IE by
default /is/ the standard.
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Author: Munson, Jacob
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> As for the Active-X thing (can't be bothered making two
> posts) - it's also currently at the heart of xmlHttpRequest.
That's a good point, I wonder if this patch affects that. Good thing
most of my site visitors use Firefox. :)
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Author: Tanguy Rademakers
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> It looks like MS is finally starting to pay attention to the web
> developers again. Here's a quote from a recent c|net article:
> "[Bill] Gates also pledged to bolster the company's development
> efforts on Internet Explorer, which he said has lagged in recent
> years. 'In a sense we're doing a mea culpa, saying we waited too
> long for a browser release,' Gates said. 'I expect us to move
> very very rapidly there because we see great opportunities.'"
Call me paranoid (AND off-topic), but that sounds more like "Let's see how
FireFox does hitting a fast moving target". Time and again, MS has shown that
they might not be the fastest on the uptake (IE 6 was released on August 27th,
2001, if my googling serves), but once they do get moving they can apply a whole
lot of developer hours to a given problem.
As for the Active-X thing (can't be bothered making two posts) - it's also
currently at the heart of xmlHttpRequest.
/t
Author: Munson, Jacob
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:45318#236446
> It is worth pointing out that the Eolas outcome probably works to
> Microsoft's benefit more than anyone else's, actually. Most
> people are not
> using generic ActiveX components for their web applications -
> they're using
> Flash, Java, etc.
I guess I'm confused again. I thought that IE uses ActiveX to
dynamically launch and display plugin based content. So in our case, if
we dump a flash form on our page, IE uses ActiveX to load up the Flash
player.
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Author: Claude Schneegans
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>>I guess it depends on what you mean by standard.
In Internet technology, I mean an Internet standard, (call it W3C), not
a Microsoft nor Mozilla nor Macromedia
nor Adobe or whatever standard.
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Author: Jochem van Dieten
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Munson, Jacob wrote:
>
> That's true, I think I confused things again. It's been a long time
> since I've read any articles on this subject, but what I remember is
> that the attorneys that work for Eolas said that they will eventually go
> after all companies that are using their 'patented technology'. That
> means Opera, Mozilla, Apple, etc.
Not Mozilla: http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1496493,00.asp
Jochem
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I suspect that they would exempt Mozilla for purely practical reasons -
there's no money to be had from them. I recall reading a statement that said
as much, but I can't attest to the accuracy of my memory. Opera and Apple
would certainly be fair game for them.
It is worth pointing out that the Eolas outcome probably works to
Microsoft's benefit more than anyone else's, actually. Most people are not
using generic ActiveX components for their web applications - they're using
Flash, Java, etc.
Except for that big check they had to write - we know how much Bill hates to
write checks!
"GATES
Well everyone always does. Buy 'em out, boys!
Bill Gates companions begin to trash the "office".
HOMER
Hey, what the hell's going on!
GATES
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Author: Munson, Jacob
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:45318#236442
> For Internet apps, nor ActiveX nor Mozilla plug-ins nor COM
> are standard.
I guess it depends on what you mean by standard. In Internet Explorer,
ActiveX is a standard. In Firefox, XUL is a standard (although, XUL is
now being considered as a W3C standard). In the Internet community
ActiveX has not been accepted as a formalized standard, but Microsoft
still uses it as a standard.
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Author: Dave Watts
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> Sure I know, but it depends if you are developing Windows
> applications or Internet Applications. For Internet apps,
> nor ActiveX nor Mozilla plug-ins nor COM are standard.
No, but if you are using Flash or Java - two relatively common things used
to build Internet applications - they will rely on the underlying
functionality within the browser for running external applications. So, I'm
not really sure what your point is.
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Author: Munson, Jacob
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> It will affect all dynamic content that is launched via
> ActiveX controls. On
> IE, that's pretty much "all plugins".
That's true, I think I confused things again. It's been a long time
since I've read any articles on this subject, but what I remember is
that the attorneys that work for Eolas said that they will eventually go
after all companies that are using their 'patented technology'. That
means Opera, Mozilla, Apple, etc. And it could spread like a virus to
include all companies that include such infringing technology, even if
they didn't create it. This was a year or two ago, so I don't know if
they are still singing the same tune.
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Author: Claude Schneegans
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>>While ActiveX has as much to do with HTTP as it does with the price
of tea in China, it is no less a
standard than, say, the Mozilla plug-in architecture.
I completely agree with you about both of them.
>>And of course, COM has been the standard for Windows program
interoperability for many, many years.
You know, Windows, that commonly used desktop OS?
Sure I know, but it depends if you are developing Windows applications
or Internet Applications.
For Internet apps, nor ActiveX nor Mozilla plug-ins nor COM are standard.
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Author: Dave Watts
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> If I understand things correctly, this patch will affect all
> types of flash. Cfchart, cfform format="flash", flex, etc.
> And I think they could eventually go after all plugins if
> someone doesn't stop them.
It will affect all dynamic content that is launched via ActiveX controls. On
IE, that's pretty much "all plugins".
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Author: Dave Watts
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> > ActiveX is the standard way to run programs within IE.
>
> Depends what you call "standard". As far as Internet
> protocols and HTTP are concerned, ActiveX does not exist.
That is an utterly irrelevant statement. While ActiveX has as much to do
with HTTP as it does with the price of tea in China, it is no less a
standard than, say, the Mozilla plug-in architecture. And of course, COM has
been the standard for Windows program interoperability for many, many years.
You know, Windows, that commonly used desktop OS?
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Author: Claude Schneegans
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>>ActiveX is the standard way to run programs within IE.
Depends what you call "standard". As far as Internet protocols and HTTP
are concerned, ActiveX does not exist.
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Author: Claude Schneegans
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>>Throw some AJAX in there and I'm elated.
Exact, I forgot this one in the list.
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Author: Claude Schneegans
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>>I do agree with you though, but it doesn't mean I have to stop hating
IE.
Right, but stoping using it is another issue.
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Author: Claude Schneegans
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>>Wait a second, who doesn't hate more than 80% of their customers?
He he, should have say "users" ;-)
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> I read that correctly, that means that MS uses ActiveX to
> handle those three events in a page. I didn't know that, and
> frankly I'm surprised their doing it that way, considering
> they've been shutting down so much ActiveX functionality
> because of security holes. Am I confused?
ActiveX is the standard way to run programs within IE. Flash, Java, or any
other sort of "plug-in" functionality is provided through ActiveX. ActiveX
is really just another name for the Component Object Model (COM), which is
what Windows programs generally use to talk to each other.
The security problems introduced by ActiveX revolve around two things -
users' propensity to install any ActiveX control when prompted, and the fact
that ActiveX applications run within the same security context as the
program that calls them. Since that's the browser, and most people log into
their desktops with accounts within the Administrators group, ActiveX
programs run within that security context as well.
With known ActiveX programs like Flash, the security problems tend to be
less significant; although these ActiveX controls also run within the user's
security context, the controls themselves tend to be a little more
trustworthy and safe about how they handle the code that they themselves
run.
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Author: Dawson, Michael
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I think one of MS's biggest faults with IE is the lack of an easy way to
run multiple versions of IE on the one computer.
I, too, hate using Flash forms. As an internet user, myself, I prefer
the speed and simplicity of a well-designed HTML form. Throw some AJAX
in there and I'm elated.
M!ke
Author: Aaron Rouse
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Wait a second, who doesn't hate more than 80% of their customers? :)
On 3/29/06, Claude Schneegans
>
> but you'll also have to hate
> more than 80% of your customers,
> and as a developer, it is not an ideal situation.
>
Author: Bryan Stevenson
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> You can hate IE, you can hate Microsoft, but you'll also have to hate
> more than 80% of your customers,
> and as a developer, it is not an ideal situation.
Amen Claude....sure isn't rocket science is it ;-)
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Author: Munson, Jacob
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> You can hate IE, you can hate Microsoft, but you'll also have to hate
> more than 80% of your customers,
What's wrong with that? ;) I do agree with you though, but it doesn't
mean I have to stop hating IE. One can be an expert on developing for
IE (which I'm not), but still not like it. However, I will say that
I've been pretty encouraged by the previews of IE 7 I've seen. It looks
like MS is finally starting to pay attention to the web developers
again. Here's a quote from a recent c|net article: "[Bill] Gates also
pledged to bolster the company's development efforts on Internet
Explorer, which he said has lagged in recent years. 'In a sense we're
doing a mea culpa, saying we waited too long for a browser release,'
Gates said. 'I expect us to move very very rapidly there because we see
great opportunities.'"
http://news.com.com/Gates+looks+to+expand+view+beyond+Windows/2100-1007_
3-6051400.html
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Author: Claude Schneegans
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>>They're good at what they were intended for
and if they don't suit your needs, than learn Flex.
As an Internet user, I hate sites using Flash forms, and as a
developper, I'm perfectly happy with
plain HTML, CSS and Javascript.
I also keep in mind that any technology which is not Microsoft is a
potential problem with IE,
ie Java (client side), Flash, Flex, you name it...
You can hate IE, you can hate Microsoft, but you'll also have to hate
more than 80% of your customers,
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Author: Munson, Jacob
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Ok, so I've got a question for those of you smarter than me about IE.
The Microsoft site that discusses this issue states: "Microsoft Internet
Explorer users will not be able to directly interact with Microsoft
ActiveX controls loaded by the APPLET, EMBED, or OBJECT elements." If
I read that correctly, that means that MS uses ActiveX to handle those
three events in a page. I didn't know that, and frankly I'm surprised
their doing it that way, considering they've been shutting down so much
ActiveX functionality because of security holes. Am I confused?
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Author: Munson, Jacob
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Bravo! Good find. It looks like they've already got a fix for Flex,
and "In the coming weeks, Adobe expects to make available alternate
solutions to Microsoft's script-based technique to help make it easier
for developers who use active content prepare for the expected changes
to Internet Explorer." Hopefully that will cover CF/flash stuff as
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> That's weak at best. If there's a suitable fix, than I don't
> think it's fair
> to take a shot at Flash forms. They're good at what they were
> intended for
> and if they don't suit your needs, than learn Flex.
If I understand things correctly, this patch will affect all types of
flash. Cfchart, cfform format="flash", flex, etc. And I think they
could eventually go after all plugins if someone doesn't stop them.
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Author: Kevin Aebig
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http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/activecontent/
!k
Not to be a pain in the butt, but can anyone from MacroDobe (I just had
to do it) confirm that. It would be really nice to be able to stop
spinning my wheels on something that will be patched before the
Microsoft update.
It would be nice if there was something official on the macromedia web
site about the issue also.
This was mentioned shortly ago on the Team Macromedia list. I don't
remember exactly what was said offhand, but I believe they are working
on a hotfix for CF6.1 and CF7. I know they were doing something
specifically for Flex and assume they won't just let the rest of us
twist.
Author: Munson, Jacob
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Sorry, I've got proof of prior art. See you in court. ;)
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Author: DURETTE, STEVEN J \(ASI-AIT\)
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Not to be a pain in the butt, but can anyone from MacroDobe (I just had
to do it) confirm that. It would be really nice to be able to stop
spinning my wheels on something that will be patched before the
Microsoft update.
It would be nice if there was something official on the macromedia web
site about the issue also.
This was mentioned shortly ago on the Team Macromedia list. I don't
remember exactly what was said offhand, but I believe they are working
on a hotfix for CF6.1 and CF7. I know they were doing something
specifically for Flex and assume they won't just let the rest of us
twist.
Author: S. Isaac Dealey
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:45318#236418
This was mentioned shortly ago on the Team Macromedia list. I don't
remember exactly what was said offhand, but I believe they are working
on a hotfix for CF6.1 and CF7. I know they were doing something
specifically for Flex and assume they won't just let the rest of us
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new epoch : isn't it time for a change?
add features without fixtures with
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Author: Kevin Aebig
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:45318#236415
That's weak at best. If there's a suitable fix, than I don't think it's fair
to take a shot at Flash forms. They're good at what they were intended for
and if they don't suit your needs, than learn Flex.
!k
>>One reason more to use an other browser then IE.
One more reason not to use Flash Forms.
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Author: DURETTE, STEVEN J \(ASI-AIT\)
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:45318#236416
Well, cfchart is also affected. You have to click on the chart before
you can click on any item that is a link. Clicking twice to make it all
work. Sometimes it doesn't display the chart until the user clicks the
object.
So, the don't use flash forms doesn't argument doesn't have as much
weight. From my understanding anything that would use a java applet
would be affected.
Steve
>>One reason more to use an other browser then IE.
One more reason not to use Flash Forms.
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>>One reason more to use an other browser then IE.
One more reason not to use Flash Forms.
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Author: Andy Matthews
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Actually MOST users think that the big AOL is the internet.
:)
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Sure...we are all in the industry and know what is and is not a good tool.
The
rest of the internet users do not have a clue and think the big blue E is
the
Internet.
Author: Bryan Stevenson
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:45318#236410
> One reason more to use an other browser then IE.
Yep...sure go tell the general public (i.e. the users) to switch browsers...good
luck with that one.
IE has won the browser war because Windows is shipped with most new computers
and most users couldn't swicth browsers if they tried (which they don't very
often).....get over it.
Sure...we are all in the industry and know what is and is not a good tool. The
rest of the internet users do not have a clue and think the big blue E is the
Internet.
OK...rant's over
Cheers
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Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
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Author: DURETTE, STEVEN J \(ASI-AIT\)
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:45318#236409
Dave,
I'm just going by the following which was sent to me:
<snip>
You're probably getting tired of hearing about this by now, but be
advised that Microsoft plans to start including this with its cumulative
IE security rollups (despite the fact that it's not security-related) on
April 11th. That means it could start showing up on company desktops
shortly. If you haven't already installed it and tested your
ActiveX-using web site with it, now would be a good time to do so.
</snip>
As far as I know when the send out cumulative rollups its just one file
that updates everything.
(fyi even though this mentions getting tired of hearing about it I
didn't get it until today)
Steve
> Microsoft is adding the non-security related patch to it's IE
> security patch, so if you want to be able to plug the latest
> IE hole that is currently being exploited, you have to accept
> this also.
I'm pretty sure that this is incorrect. The Eolas patch is separate, and
you
can choose not to install it while still installing actual security
patches.
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Author: Dawson, Michael
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:45318#236407
Jacob, I have patented the hate for IE. Please cease and desist hating
IE unless you wish to pay a royalty. That is all.
M!ke
Yeah, I was saying that tongue in cheek (I also apply patches in a
timely manner). Have you looked at Macromedia's support pages to see if
they've got a work around? Like you said, this code is generated on the
fly by CF (flash forms), so it's not an easy job to "generate the embed,
object, etc tags through an imported js or jscript file". But you
/could/ do it, by viewing the generated source of your flash form, and
going from there.
I have to say that I've been pretty upset about this Eolas patent and
subsequent lawsuit from the beginning, even if I'm not a Microsoft fan
and I hate IE.
Author: Kevin Aebig
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:45318#236406
BTW... I'm not completely sure this is even needed. It seems that the
outputted script already uses document.write unless they don't have
JavaScript enabled...
!k
Though that might be the case, end-users might do it anyhow.
The fix includes writing out the object and embed tags by hand with JS. Why
not capture the output with CFSaveContent and than output it wrapped with JS
document.write?
!k
> Microsoft is adding the non-security related patch to it's IE
> security patch, so if you want to be able to plug the latest
> IE hole that is currently being exploited, you have to accept
> this also.
I'm pretty sure that this is incorrect. The Eolas patch is separate, and you
can choose not to install it while still installing actual security patches.
Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
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Author: Kevin Aebig
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:45318#236404
Though that might be the case, end-users might do it anyhow.
The fix includes writing out the object and embed tags by hand with JS. Why
not capture the output with CFSaveContent and than output it wrapped with JS
document.write?
!k
> Microsoft is adding the non-security related patch to it's IE
> security patch, so if you want to be able to plug the latest
> IE hole that is currently being exploited, you have to accept
> this also.
I'm pretty sure that this is incorrect. The Eolas patch is separate, and you
can choose not to install it while still installing actual security patches.
Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta,
Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location.
Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information!
Author: Dave Watts
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:45318#236403
> Microsoft is adding the non-security related patch to it's IE
> security patch, so if you want to be able to plug the latest
> IE hole that is currently being exploited, you have to accept
> this also.
I'm pretty sure that this is incorrect. The Eolas patch is separate, and you
can choose not to install it while still installing actual security patches.
Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta,
Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location.
Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information!
Author: Munson, Jacob
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:45318#236402
Yeah, I was saying that tongue in cheek (I also apply patches in a
timely manner). Have you looked at Macromedia's support pages to see if
they've got a work around? Like you said, this code is generated on the
fly by CF (flash forms), so it's not an easy job to "generate the embed,
object, etc tags through an imported js or jscript file". But you
/could/ do it, by viewing the generated source of your flash form, and
going from there.
I have to say that I've been pretty upset about this Eolas patent and
subsequent lawsuit from the beginning, even if I'm not a Microsoft fan
and I hate IE.
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Author: DURETTE, STEVEN J \(ASI-AIT\)
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My company applies security patches religiously.
Microsoft is adding the non-security related patch to it's IE security
patch, so if you want to be able to plug the latest IE hole that is
currently being exploited, you have to accept this also.
This is only going to be a problem for people that apply the patch, and
we all know almost nobody applies patches. ;)
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This is only going to be a problem for people that apply the patch, and
we all know almost nobody applies patches. ;)
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But that's no going to happen. It's all well and good for us developers to
use alternate browsers, but until the overwhelming majority of users switch
to something other than IE, that's what we use.
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One reason more to use an other browser then IE.
All,
In case you didn't know Microsoft will be making a change to IE6 with their
April 11 security patch (sorry if this is old news).
This came to my attention today when they made web developers here install
the change and test our pages.
EVERYTHING USING FLASH FORMS BROKE!! Well not exactly broke, you have to
click on the flash form before it will do anything. If you have a page that
has nothing except a flash form that originally used remoting to show data,
it won't do it until the user clicks on it. Not likely if the user only
sees a white page.
Also, if you have a small flash form as part of a page with other stuff the
following won't work until you click on the flash form:
onactivate ondragleave onmouseout
onbeforeactivate ondragover onmouseover
onbeforecopy ondragstart onmouseup
onbeforecut ondrop onmousewheel
onbeforedeactivate onfocus onmove
onbeforepaste onfocusin onmoveend
onblur onfocusout onmovestart
onclick onhelp onpage
oncontextmenu onkeydown onpaste
oncontrolselect onkeypress onresize
oncopy onkeyup onresizeend
oncut onlosecapture onresizestart
ondblclick onmousedown onscroll
ondeactivate onmouseenter onselectstart
ondragend onmouseleave
ondragenter onmousemove
The fix from microsoft says to generate the embed, object, etc tags through
an imported js or jscript file, but I don't generate these,
CFMX7 does when I use cfform.
Does anyone know how I can restore the functionality? Our users will cause
a big stink over this if we can't find a fix.
Thanks,
Steve
Author: Artur Kordowski
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:45318#236398
One reason more to use an other browser then IE.
All,
In case you didn't know Microsoft will be making a change to IE6 with their
April 11 security patch (sorry if this is old news).
This came to my attention today when they made web developers here install
the change and test our pages.
EVERYTHING USING FLASH FORMS BROKE!! Well not exactly broke, you have to
click on the flash form before it will do anything. If you have a page that
has nothing except a flash form that originally used remoting to show data,
it won't do it until the user clicks on it. Not likely if the user only
sees a white page.
Also, if you have a small flash form as part of a page with other stuff the
following won't work until you click on the flash form:
onactivate ondragleave onmouseout
onbeforeactivate ondragover onmouseover
onbeforecopy ondragstart onmouseup
onbeforecut ondrop onmousewheel
onbeforedeactivate onfocus onmove
onbeforepaste onfocusin onmoveend
onblur onfocusout onmovestart
onclick onhelp onpage
oncontextmenu onkeydown onpaste
oncontrolselect onkeypress onresize
oncopy onkeyup onresizeend
oncut onlosecapture onresizestart
ondblclick onmousedown onscroll
ondeactivate onmouseenter onselectstart
ondragend onmouseleave
ondragenter onmousemove
The fix from microsoft says to generate the embed, object, etc tags through
an imported js or jscript file, but I don't generate these,
CFMX7 does when I use cfform.
Does anyone know how I can restore the functionality? Our users will cause
a big stink over this if we can't find a fix.
Thanks,
Steve
Author: DURETTE, STEVEN J \(ASI-AIT\)
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:45318#236397
All,
In case you didn't know Microsoft will be making a change to IE6 with
their April 11 security patch (sorry if this is old news).
This came to my attention today when they made web developers here
install the change and test our pages.
EVERYTHING USING FLASH FORMS BROKE!! Well not exactly broke, you have
to click on the flash form before it will do anything. If you have a
page that has nothing except a flash form that originally used remoting
to show data, it won't do it until the user clicks on it. Not likely if
the user only sees a white page.
Also, if you have a small flash form as part of a page with other stuff
the following won't work until you click on the flash form:
onactivate ondragleave onmouseout
onbeforeactivate ondragover onmouseover
onbeforecopy ondragstart onmouseup
onbeforecut ondrop onmousewheel
onbeforedeactivate onfocus onmove
onbeforepaste onfocusin onmoveend
onblur onfocusout onmovestart
onclick onhelp onpage
oncontextmenu onkeydown onpaste
oncontrolselect onkeypress onresize
oncopy onkeyup onresizeend
oncut onlosecapture onresizestart
ondblclick onmousedown onscroll
ondeactivate onmouseenter onselectstart
ondragend onmouseleave
ondragenter onmousemove
The fix from microsoft says to generate the embed, object, etc tags
through an imported js or jscript file, but I don't generate these,
CFMX7 does when I use cfform.
Does anyone know how I can restore the functionality? Our users will
cause a big stink over this if we can't find a fix.
Thanks,
Steve
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