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Author: Tom Chiverton
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:46751#246511
> But, shouldn't you post that on the blog as a comment :)
:wiggles nose
*bing*
I have... :-)
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Author: Mingo Hagen
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I like it: C3! It's got my vote...
But, shouldn't you post that on the blog as a comment :)
Mingo.
Author: James Holmes
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:46751#246507
Ooh, the second one is really catchy. It would go well hosted at
cffaq.com (e.g. "How do I get a text editor in my CF - {answer
here}... for the Coldfusion Community Conclusion on which ones to use,
click here"). Sounds good.
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Author: Tom Chiverton
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:46751#246505
> if you have an idea for a name, as "The CF Best Solutions App Thingy"
> won't look good in a web design :-) Perhaps just something like "Rated
> CF Solutions" or similar?
cfSolutions ?
Coldfusion Community Conclusion (or C3 for short) ?
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Author: James Holmes
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And I forgot to mention I got the SES URLs working, so here is the
blog post on the Best Solutions app thing:
http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/index.cfm/2006/7/14/The-CF-Best-Solutions-Comparison-App
Comments now work too - the CAPTCHA was stuffing up because of file
permissions. If you have a requirement that you want to see in the
app, please post a comment in the blog entry. Also feel free to post
if you have an idea for a name, as "The CF Best Solutions App Thingy"
won't look good in a web design :-) Perhaps just something like "Rated
CF Solutions" or similar?
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Author: James Holmes
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:46751#246485
OK, I got BlogCFC working after a session of hacking:
http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/?mode=entry&entry=6A682CE1-BD02-01ED-7032AD32BDC536CA
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Author: James Holmes
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:46751#246483
Well, my site broke and I made no changes. For example:
http://www.bifrost.com.au/modelgluesamples/nameuppercaser/
The MG files are in the site root.
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Author: Snake
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:46751#246482
If they have put a / mapping on the server then they will be getting a
deluge of complaints as this will break a lot of other peoples sites too.
Everyone that uses / to reference the root of their site in their cfincludes
etc.
Snake
I'll rephrase:
If I want the shared stuff (i.e. the entire org.* folder tree) in a single
location on the site I need a mapping. Of course this can all be duplicated
under the main app directory, which I just did.
The alternative of putting these things in the web root only works if there
is no "/" mapping on the server. HMS must mave just installed a "/" mapping
on my server, because my old MG demo install and the first install of
BlogCFC both broke. Reorganising the blog folders made that work so far.
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Author: James Holmes
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:46751#246481
I'll rephrase:
If I want the shared stuff (i.e. the entire org.* folder tree) in a
single location on the site I need a mapping. Of course this can all
be duplicated under the main app directory, which I just did.
The alternative of putting these things in the web root only works if
there is no "/" mapping on the server. HMS must mave just installed a
"/" mapping on my server, because my old MG demo install and the first
install of BlogCFC both broke. Reorganising the blog folders made that
work so far.
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Author: Mingo Hagen
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:46751#246465
Major update?! darn it, just installed the 5-0 version...
oh well, that way I have something to do over the weekend...
Mingo.
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Author: Munson, Jacob
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:46751#246447
> From: Raymond Camden
>
> FYI, a major new release of BlogCFC will be released this weekend.
Good to hear. I'm planning on upgrading to 5.1 when it's released.
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Author: Raymond Camden
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5 is the same. No mappings required. Most of my apps do not require
mappings, and as I upgrade them, I try to remove that dependancy.
FYI, a major new release of BlogCFC will be released this weekend.
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Author: Munson, Jacob
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:46751#246441
I'm using BlogCFC on a shared host, it doesn't require a mapping. You
just have to put the folders/files in the right spots (at least that's
how v. 4 worked, I haven't upgraded to 5 yet).
> OK, no blog for now since BlogCFC requires a mapping and I'm on shared
> hosting. I'll work it out later.
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Author: James Holmes
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OK, no blog for now since BlogCFC requires a mapping and I'm on shared
hosting. I'll work it out later.
However, we can use the test galleon forum I setup a while ago:
http://www.bifrost.com.au/forums/threads.cfm?forumid=67D7CB0E-F900-0235-18BAD35904E56A06
Post away.
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Author: Rick Faircloth
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:46751#246406
I considered working on it, but no one wants it built in CF 4.5! :o)
I've got CF7 installed on XP and Apache, but haven't had time to
mess around with it...
Rick
Well, I'd be willing to have a crack at this, if no-one else is really keen.
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Author: Rick Faircloth
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:46751#246405
Ok...the "incoming" aspect was not really important...I should have just
said "new" mail. I just want to figure out how to make use the content
that comes in email for my purposes, without just having it filtered into
other email boxes. But I want it done automatically.
I'll check into CFPOP...
Thanks, Neil.
Rick
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Subject: Re: FAQ?
Yeah, but it would technically not be incoming per se, the email would have
already arrived and you would be parsing it's content via CFPOP after your
SMTP server has reveived it.
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Is it possible for CF to parse incoming email by content in the email?
Rick
No, Rick, I do think that a site of some kind is a great idea for this.
But the initial post brought up how great it would be if all of these emails
could do this and that, and I've been doing it for years. Yes, I can search
in the way you mentioned, and sure, I've hand parsed through a lot of it
over the years, tossing the trash and off-kilter OT. But the filters for the
site could be constructed in a similar manner (and allow cross-referencing),
covering a large portion of the work. Someone's eyes might still have to do
the final filter for pertinent content.
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Author: Mingo Hagen
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:46751#246399
James Holmes wrote:
> Sound good?
Sounds good to me! see you on your blog (wherever that will be ;) )
Mingo.
Author: James Holmes
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:46751#246398
The first thing to do is for people to say what they need (i.e. gather
requirements for specifications). I was going to blog it but it
appears my blog evaporated into the "this domain name has expired"
black hole... (hopefully I can use search engine caches to get my old
articles)
Time to bite the bullet and put BlogCFC on my site, I guess. Once
that's done I'll blog it and people can comment there to suggest
specs. Sound good?
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Author: Mingo Hagen
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:46751#246396
James Holmes wrote:
> Well, I'd be willing to have a crack at this, if no-one else is really keen.
>
>
That's great! We could of course make it a community project, open
source and all... What would be a good place to start? a forum, a blog,
a custom design?
Author: James Holmes
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:46751#246395
Well, I'd be willing to have a crack at this, if no-one else is really keen.
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Author: James Holmes
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:46751#246394
This is obviously a use of the word "fun" of which I was not
previously aware :-)
> It would also limit the amount of times the same discussion occurs (or
> is it recurs), although it is fun to watch the frameworkswar.
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Author: Tom Chiverton
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:46751#246391
> Is it possible for CF to parse incoming email by content in the email?
It's got POP and IMAP tags, so, umm, yes ?
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Author: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
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Yeah, but it would technically not be incoming per se, the email would have
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SMTP server has reveived it.
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Is it possible for CF to parse incoming email by content in the email?
Rick
No, Rick, I do think that a site of some kind is a great idea for this.
But the initial post brought up how great it would be if all of these emails
could do this and that, and I've been doing it for years. Yes, I can search
in the way you mentioned, and sure, I've hand parsed through a lot of it
over the years, tossing the trash and off-kilter OT. But the filters for the
site could be constructed in a similar manner (and allow cross-referencing),
covering a large portion of the work. Someone's eyes might still have to do
the final filter for pertinent content.
Cutter
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http://blog.cutterscrossing.com
Author: Rick Faircloth
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:46751#246364
Is it possible for CF to parse incoming email by content in the email?
Rick
No, Rick, I do think that a site of some kind is a great idea for this.
But the initial post brought up how great it would be if all of these emails
could do this and that, and I've been doing it for years. Yes, I can search
in the way you mentioned, and sure, I've hand parsed through a lot of it
over the years, tossing the trash and off-kilter OT. But the filters for the
site could be constructed in a similar manner (and allow cross-referencing),
covering a large portion of the work. Someone's eyes might still have to do
the final filter for pertinent content.
Cutter
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http://blog.cutterscrossing.com
Author: Cutter (CFRelated)
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:46751#246363
No, Rick, I do think that a site of some kind is a great idea for this.
But the initial post brought up how great it would be if all of these
emails could do this and that, and I've been doing it for years. Yes, I
can search in the way you mentioned, and sure, I've hand parsed through
a lot of it over the years, tossing the trash and off-kilter OT. But the
filters for the site could be constructed in a similar manner (and allow
cross-referencing), covering a large portion of the work. Someone's eyes
might still have to do the final filter for pertinent content.
Cutter
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http://blog.cutterscrossing.com
Author: Rick Faircloth
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:46751#246355
I'm sure I can set up filters to do the same thing in Outlook 2007, but I'm
talking
about something that is more standardized in content (e.g. fields that match
database fields)
and not just stored in the original email.
I would like to parse the email content and create a data store that I can
manipulate as I please.
You're just saving email into various folders, right? Can you search the
email that you save
for various keywords and have it return subject lines that you can then
click and recall the
email? I would guess if you can that you'd still have to parse through a
lot of email before
finding what you're looking for, especially since you're not manually
parsing the information
which would allow you to throw out anything not useful.
Am I missing some important benefits to how you're doing it or do you think
it could be
done better than with email filters?
Rick
Wow, that sounds like exactly what my custom filters do for me now. I've had
them set up for years, adding and adjusting as I go, and have a few years
worth of email saved off from CF-Talk, CFCDev, FlashCoders, etc., all in
neat folders by category. I've had to switch boxes a few times, but I've
just copied over the profile from my Application Data folder, put it on my
new system, and voila, there they all were.
But you can do those kind of things pretty easily with a real email program,
like Thunderbird....;)
Cutter
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Author: Cutter (CFRelated)
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Wow, that sounds like exactly what my custom filters do for me now. I've
had them set up for years, adding and adjusting as I go, and have a few
years worth of email saved off from CF-Talk, CFCDev, FlashCoders, etc.,
all in neat folders by category. I've had to switch boxes a few times,
but I've just copied over the profile from my Application Data folder,
put it on my new system, and voila, there they all were.
But you can do those kind of things pretty easily with a real email
program, like Thunderbird....;)
Cutter
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Author: Mark Drew
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:46751#246331
Without trying to harp on about it, if the "Add to FAQ" link worked
in the way you described with CF version, Category, summary, etc as
extra fields it would do the same job.
I dont know what Michael thinks about this (its his system after
all :)) but I think that should be fairly easily implementable. Maybe
some good karma points for the users that add more to the FAQ and get
lots of "nudges" (we cant call them diggs, so nudges or HoFs?... hold
on.. I dont want to be giving the David Hoff to anything!!!)
Just another jet-lagged idea brought to you by
MD
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Author: Richard Kroll
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:46751#246314
I know I'd sign up for notification for when new tips are added. I know
I don't check back that often, only when a need arises and I'm looking
for a solution.
My 2 cents,
Rich
I've considered a Subscribe mode for people who want to get informed
on each entry. Since the site has an RSS feed I figured it wasn't
quite as critical. But it would be nice to add email notification.
> I try all the time to convince my clients that while being on the
Internet
> on a website is a must, it's more important for marketing to be in
people's
> inboxes.
>
> Why not set up a "Tip of the Day" (or "Tip of the Week") and deliver
it to
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them...you're
> traffic will
> pick up a lot, I'll wager, too...
>
> Rick
Author: Rick Faircloth
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:46751#246311
I'm using the Office 2007 Beta 2 and it's got RSS folders built right into
Outlook.
The RSS folders are still just one more place I have to plow through to get
info.
I'd rather it come to my inbox.
I wish there was some way to receive an email which was formatted in a
certain
way with information concerning, say, CF, was I had a reader that would
take the Title, Summary, Details, Category, Code, CF Version and whatever
else would be helpful
and pull it into a database about CF for me.
That way, all the sources of information that I subscribe to would simply be
parsed
and loaded into my CF knowledgebase according to my needs.
Perhaps a standard could be developed for content for such emails and we
could
all use the repository code on our systems and developers could send out
coding tips,
examples, working code, etc.
Then we all just automatically start building a personal knowledgebase to
draw up and
customize according to our coding style, version, etc.
There's got to be a better way to share info, besides asking questions over
and over,
searching Google, searching the various CF sites, or the House of Fusion
archives.
It's just short of ridiculous that we who build content management systems
for others,
haven't (or can't?) up with a standardized CMS system for our community.
Rick
I don't know what Email client you use, but I know that Thunderbird will
check RSS feeds. Then you /could/ have the new items come to your inbox, so
to speak. :)
Author: Robyn
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:46751#246310
Have you considered using a group-wide wiki for this? The CSS list that
I read has a great wiki site that allows users to compile frequently
used formats, different hacks, etc. Check it out for ideas:
http://css-discuss.incutio.com/
Mingo Hagen wrote:
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Author: Michael E. Carluen
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:46751#246309
What I find most helpful when buying consumer electronics has always been to
dig up a copy Consumer Reports. They always have a table that lists the
competing products with a side by side comparison feature sets or even when
the feature I need even exists or not.
Similarly when choosing with CF tool to use (ie CFAJAX, AJAXCFC, JSMX
etc...)., I often use the same approach- but doing the side by side list on
my own. After that, my first criteria in the decision process has always
been to jump into the HoF archives, and know who is using what (ie what most
CF gods use, and you know who you are ;-)) and what the general consensus
and bias are from the CF Community at large. Consensus does weigh-in quite
a bit. I expect no "best" at something, but rather what has already been
proven in a given real world scenario.
Once I have narrowed into the tool that ranks high on my list, only then
does FAQs, implementation How-to's, and Cookbooks become a big part of the
decision process.
It would definitely be helpful if there is a place for that side-by-side
list.
My 2 cents.
Michael
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Author: Ken Ketsdever
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:46751#246308
I love HOF, and am thankful to the Dinowitz's and all those who
contribute. However, I have never found the search functionality of the
site to be very helpful. I think this idea would make the site much
friendlier for finding the answer to whatever it is you are looking for.
>>
I still think the ability to mark a thread as a good solution to
something
and add a title (like digg) would help.
Something along the lines of clicking on the signature of one post,
adding
the title "Which WYSIWYG editors should I use?" and posting it to the
FAQ,
it would would check to see if that thread is in the FAQ already, warn
you,
let you know what title it went under (so that if the thread solves
multiple
problems it can have another title) and allow you to add a new title or
cancel.
The FAQ entries can then just have something like digg uses which people
that have used the FAQ can vote by saying if it was useful and answered
the
question.
Not hard to set up I would guess, but I know Michael has the time, but
this
would be a useful feature and limit the number of "search for it bozo"
and
replace it with "look in the FAQ bozo" remarks. (ok, you dont need to
add
bozo, you could add whatever remark you want)
MD
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Author: Mingo Hagen
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Nice analogy ;)
It would also limit the amount of times the same discussion occurs (or
is it recurs), although it is fun to watch the frameworkswar.
Munson, Jacob wrote:
> Yeah, that does sound like a good idea. Especially if this new FAQ were
> publicly available, so that people that don't want to drink from the
> firehose (i.e., subscribe to cf-talk) can still access it. :)
>
Author: Munson, Jacob
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:46751#246305
Yeah, that does sound like a good idea. Especially if this new FAQ were
publicly available, so that people that don't want to drink from the
firehose (i.e., subscribe to cf-talk) can still access it. :)
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Author: Mark Drew
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:46751#246304
I still think the ability to mark a thread as a good solution to something
and add a title (like digg) would help.
Something along the lines of clicking on the signature of one post, adding
the title "Which WYSIWYG editors should I use?" and posting it to the FAQ,
it would would check to see if that thread is in the FAQ already, warn you,
let you know what title it went under (so that if the thread solves multiple
problems it can have another title) and allow you to add a new title or
cancel.
The FAQ entries can then just have something like digg uses which people
that have used the FAQ can vote by saying if it was useful and answered the
question.
Not hard to set up I would guess, but I know Michael has the time, but this
would be a useful feature and limit the number of "search for it bozo" and
replace it with "look in the FAQ bozo" remarks. (ok, you dont need to add
bozo, you could add whatever remark you want)
MD
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Author: Munson, Jacob
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:46751#246295
I don't know what Email client you use, but I know that Thunderbird will
check RSS feeds. Then you /could/ have the new items come to your
inbox, so to speak. :)
> RSS is fine...but I find that I don't use them that much even
> when I've
> subscribed...it's just something else I have to check. I
> prefer all the
> information
> I need to consolidate
> in my inbox...
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I think this is a very good idea for a new community resource someone
should build. I think the idea of allowing people to rate stuff would
help take care of the 'mess' you mentioned. Similar to Amazon.com, you
could look at the frameworks section, for example, and see a star rating
for each item. You could also see user comments sorted by highest
rating (people could rate the comments). If the site had a blog
attached to it, the maintainer could keep people informed about the
site, which would also help keep it current and accurate. Especially if
the blog is aggregated by feed-squirrel, mxna, and fullasagoog.
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Author: Bryan Stevenson
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:46751#246282
There are MANY resources for CF out there, but I think you'll have a hard time
finding any such repository.
I say this because all of your items require opinions for answers.
If folks could post "why", then you just end up with a mess instead of what you
seem to be aiming for..."in this situation use this"
my 2 cents
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Author: Jeff Small
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:46751#246278
cfjedimaster wrote:
> (of course only CFE makes sense)
*ducks behind the bar*
Author: Raymond Camden
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:46751#246275
Such a document/site could be useful. Certainly there are many choices
for IDEs for example (of course only CFE makes sense), and someone
could compare/contract them. The same applies for database editors and
source control management programs.
As for where and what that resource would be - I'm not sure. It could
be useful blog entries obviously. You also have the ACME guide by
Stephen Collins. It doesn't offer alternatives, but does cover the
entire gamut of stuff you would need for CF development. I can't
recommend it enough: http://www.stephencollins.org/acme/
> Your site addresses the 'how do i do this or that' question. What I want
> is a place where I can go to answer the 'what tools are there for my
> problem'.
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Author: Rick Faircloth
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:46751#246274
RSS is fine...but I find that I don't use them that much even when I've
subscribed...it's just something else I have to check. I prefer all the
information
I need to consolidate
in my inbox...
Rick
I've considered a Subscribe mode for people who want to get informed on each
entry. Since the site has an RSS feed I figured it wasn't quite as critical.
But it would be nice to add email notification.
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Author: Mingo Hagen
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:46751#246273
Your site addresses the 'how do i do this or that' question. What I want
is a place where I can go to answer the 'what tools are there for my
problem'.
In order to find out what the _right_ tools are for a certain job, you
need to at least know _which_ tools there are and to help you find out
if they fit your job it helps to read about what other coldfusion
programmers' experience has been with them.
Is that a possible extension to the cfcookbook project, a library of
cf-related tools with user experiences?
Mingo.
ps. I'm promoting your site to my (not too many) coworkers.
Raymond Camden wrote:
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Author: Raymond Camden
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I've considered a Subscribe mode for people who want to get informed
on each entry. Since the site has an RSS feed I figured it wasn't
quite as critical. But it would be nice to add email notification.
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Author: Ryan, Terrence
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:46751#246270
I think another cool thing to point out about the ColdFusion Cookbook is
that you don't have to wait for Ray or Jeremy to speak Ex Cathedra about
the best practices. Anyone can submit a page for consideration.
Which is really cool, in my opinion, yours may vary.
Thanks for it, Ray.
Terrence Ryan
Senior Systems Programmer
Wharton Computing and Information Technology
E-mail: tpryan@wharton.upenn.edu
Speaking just for myself (www.coldfusioncookbook.com), my philosophy
behind the site is that every answer is the best. Now - I know that
sounds egotistical. What I meant is, like CFLib, we try to publish what
we consider best practice 100% of the time. Obviously I'm no
brainiac.What I'm trying to get through is that what you see on the
cookbook site would be considered best practice, at least by myself,
Jeremy, and the other authors. (And again, I know the sites aren't
perfect.)
The cookbook site seems to almost be in stealth mode.We have over 100
entries, all available via PDF, so the content is growing, but the
traffic is still a bit light. Hopefully these posts will help drive some
traffic to the site. :)
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to me'.
>
> Mingo.
>
>
>
Author: Rick Faircloth
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:46751#246268
I try all the time to convince my clients that while being on the Internet
on a website is a must, it's more important for marketing to be in people's
inboxes.
Why not set up a "Tip of the Day" (or "Tip of the Week") and deliver it to
subscriber's inboxes, where they can then save the tips to
archives...searchable
on their own systems.
Also, when new tips are added, automatic email notice goes out to all
subscribers
with information about the tip.
Why wait for them to go to the site? Take the material to them...you're
traffic will
pick up a lot, I'll wager, too...
Rick
Speaking just for myself (www.coldfusioncookbook.com), my philosophy behind
the site is that every answer is the best. Now - I know that sounds
egotistical. What I meant is, like CFLib, we try to publish what we consider
best practice 100% of the time. Obviously I'm no brainiac.What I'm trying to
get through is that what you see on the cookbook site would be considered
best practice, at least by myself, Jeremy, and the other authors. (And
again, I know the sites aren't
perfect.)
The cookbook site seems to almost be in stealth mode.We have over 100
entries, all available via PDF, so the content is growing, but the traffic
is still a bit light. Hopefully these posts will help drive some traffic to
the site. :)
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me'.
>
> Mingo.
>
>
>
Author: Raymond Camden
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:46751#246263
Speaking just for myself (www.coldfusioncookbook.com), my philosophy
behind the site is that every answer is the best. Now - I know that
sounds egotistical. What I meant is, like CFLib, we try to publish
what we consider best practice 100% of the time. Obviously I'm no
brainiac.What I'm trying to get through is that what you see on the
cookbook site would be considered best practice, at least by myself,
Jeremy, and the other authors. (And again, I know the sites aren't
perfect.)
The cookbook site seems to almost be in stealth mode.We have over 100
entries, all available via PDF, so the content is growing, but the
traffic is still a bit light. Hopefully these posts will help drive
some traffic to the site. :)
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Author: Mingo Hagen
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:46751#246253
Raymond Camden wrote:
> While they don't say "best", there is cffaq.com from Ben Forta and
> www.coldfusioncookbook.com from myself and Jeremy Petersen.
>
Well... this is almost exactly what i meant (I need to google better) I
do miss some stuff like I mentioned in my other mails, more geared
towards different solutions to one problem and perhaps you could add a
function (like on imdb.com) where users can say 'this tip was useful to me'.
Mingo.
Author: Raymond Camden
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:46751#246251
While they don't say "best", there is cffaq.com from Ben Forta and
www.coldfusioncookbook.com from myself and Jeremy Petersen.
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Author: Mingo Hagen
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:46751#246249
Hi Tom,
> But, I take your point, that somewhere where 'How do I use gpg' or 'what
HTML
> WYSIWYG editors work well with CF' would be useful.
I wasn't looking for a how-to-implement-site, but more a
what-is-the-general-consensus site.
A place where all the options are laid out for you given a certain
problem, with stats next to it as to who uses what the most.
Mingo.
Author: Mingo Hagen
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:46751#246250
Hi Mark (and Tom),
> Not being stupid but coulnt HoF add a link to the signature of an email that
> when something is an answer or a good FAQ, it can be clicked and it then
> adds it to a page with FAQ's? All you would need to add is the Question and
> a link to the conversation?
That would have my preference as well.
And in response to Tom, I know there is no such thing as _the_ best, and
that a lot has to do with your needs and skills, but I would at least
like to see how many people back one solution and it might settle some
of the recurring issues on this mailing list (like the framework
question and the ajaxcfc vs cfajax vs the rest.)
It won't take away the question of which is best, but this way you can
at least see what's used most. And for the less used options a comment
like structure could be used where users can post there good or bad
experiences with it.
Some ideas:
Frameworks:
- Fusebox (1,2,3,4,5)
- Mach II
- ModelGlue
- Roll-your-own
- More?
Editors:
- CFStudio
- Homesite+
- Dreamweaver
- CFEclipse
- Vi
- etc.
HTML Editors:
- FCKEditor
- HTMLArea
- TinyMCE
- Ektron
- More?
Ajax Frameworks
- AjaxCFC
- CFAjax
- JSMX
- Spry
- Roll-your-own
- more
Other unsettled issues (probably a lot)? Please post yours.
Mingo.
Author: Tom Chiverton
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:46751#246241
> stuff like what is the best wysiwyg editor (FCK, HTMLArea,
> TinyMCE, etc.),
There is no such thing as 'best'. There is 'most suited to whatever your needs
are'.
> what kind of encryption to use (PGP, GPG),
Technically, those are both programs with implement a particular standard of a
particular type of encryption (the OpenPGP standard for public-key
encryption) :-}
> mailserver works best with CF, what FTP server, any other unsettled
Again, your best is not my best.
I still swear by Sendmail, though almost everyone else is I know is on
Postfix, for instance.
But, I take your point, that somewhere where 'How do I use gpg' or 'what HTML
WYSIWYG editors work well with CF' would be useful.
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Author: Mark Drew
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:46751#246240
Not being stupid but coulnt HoF add a link to the signature of an email that
when something is an answer or a good FAQ, it can be clicked and it then
adds it to a page with FAQ's? All you would need to add is the Question and
a link to the conversation?
MD
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Author: James Holmes
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:46751#246238
I don't know of anything yet, but I'd be interested in it.
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Author: Mingo Hagen
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:46751#246237
Hi all,
Is there a place to get stuff settled (and don't say the cf-talk search
function), stuff like what is the best wysiwyg editor (FCK, HTMLArea,
TinyMCE, etc.), what kind of encryption to use (PGP, GPG), what
mailserver works best with CF, what FTP server, any other unsettled
issues? And all that geared towards coldfusion. Perhaps a place were
users can vote, and add explanations as to why they choose A over B.
If there's not such a place, is there any interest in it?
Mingo.
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