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Switching to Weblogic 9 2 on Java 1 5 - which version of ColdFusion to use?
Author: Tanguy Rademakers
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:50422#270348
> And yes, WebLogic 9.2 support is indeed planned
> for ColdFusion "Scorpio" (aka CF8).
Hello Ben,
Also good news, given that the company has a subscription for cf enterprise.
It looks like i will be the bearer of double good news! Terrible: now they'll
have to actually decide something ;)
thanks to all for the good info.
/t
Author: Tanguy Rademakers
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:50422#270344
> Your other option is to use the only CFML server engine that's tested,
> sold, and supported directly by BEA:
Hello Vince,
Thanks for the info - i know that's going to be music to my management's ears.
Regs,
/t
Author: Vince Bonfanti
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:50422#270333
"produce" offerings? Of course, these are software "products", not fruit and
vegetables. :-)
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Author: Vince Bonfanti
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:50422#270332
Hi Rick,
I think the differences are:
1) BlueDragon is tested and certified by BEA's quality assurance (QA) test team;
CFMX is not. The BEA QA testers and technical support staff are trained on
BlueDragon; they're not trained on CFMX.
2) When you have a problem or question with BlueDragon on WebLogic, you have one
place to go: BEA tech support. There's a formal communication channel in place
between BEA and New Atlanta tech support for resolving integration issues.
3) When you have a problem or question with CFMX on WebLogic, you first have to
figure out if it's a CFMX problem or a WebLogic problem, then contact either
Adobe or BEA as appropriate. There's no formal communication channel in place
between BEA and Adobe tech support for resolving integration issues.
4) New Atlanta has direct access to BEA WebLogic engineers to assist during
product development, which is one reason we're able to support packed WARs, and
is why BlueDragon will support WebLogic 10 as soon as it ships next month (while
CFMX is only adding support for WebLogic 9.2 in Scorpio sometime later in 2007,
more than two full years after BlueDragon supported WebLogic 9.0).
There are real, tangible differences in the two produce offerings.
Vince
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Author: Rick Root
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:50422#270329
> But we quibble, since BlueDragon remains the only CFML engine officially
> supported by BEA (and, in fact, BlueDragon is sold and supported by BEA as a
> BEA product).
I hate these arguments. As long as CFMX is officially supported on BEA by
ADOBE, that's good enough for me. I think it's also nice that Bluedragon is
officially supported by BEA. Of course, as a CFMX user, I'd prefer to get
my support from the authors of the software, not the vendors of the
platform.
I like bluedragon, I really do... but the fact that it's supported and sold
by BEA is no different, in my opinion, than the fact that Adobe OFFICIALLY
SUPPORTS and SELLS CFMX for use on BEA. Adobe has people trained to support
CFMX on BEA. BEA has people trained to support Bluedragon on BEA.
Rick
Author: Vince Bonfanti
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:50422#270326
RE: "ColdFusion was the first CFML engine supported on BEA WebLogic." I'm not
sure this is true. If I remember correctly (I could be wrong), the original CFMX
6.0 release was not supported on BEA WebLogic. These release notes seem to
indicate that CFMX didn't run on WebLogic until Dec 2002:
http://www.adobe.com/support/coldfusion/releasenotes/mx/releasenotes_mx_j2ee_p2.html
I believe that BlueDragon 3.0 was the first CFML engine to run on BEA WebLogic in
Sept 2002, several months prior to CFMX:
http://www.newatlanta.com/corporate/news/bluedragon_3_0_release.jsp
But we quibble, since BlueDragon remains the only CFML engine officially
supported by BEA (and, in fact, BlueDragon is sold and supported by BEA as a BEA
product).
Also, I believe that CFMX 7.0.2 still does not support deployment in packed WARs
on WebLogic, but requires unpacking into an exploded directory, correct?
BlueDragon has supported packed WARs on WebLogic since Sept 2002.
Vince
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Author: Ben Forta
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:50422#270324
ColdFusion has supported BEA WebLogic since 2000. Indeed, ColdFusion was the
first CFML engine supported on BEA WebLogic, and we remain committed to the
platform (as do many very high profile customers who run ColdFusion on WebLogic).
The current version (CFMX7) supports WebLogic 7 and 8.1. And yes, WebLogic 9.2
support is indeed planned for ColdFusion "Scorpio" (aka CF8).
--- Ben
Your other option is to use the only CFML server engine that's tested, sold, and
supported directly by BEA:
http://www.bea.com/framework.jsp?CNT=index.htm&FP=/content/products/weblogic/bluedragon/
Vince Bonfanti
New Atlanta Communications, LLC
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Author: Vince Bonfanti
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:50422#270310
A quick follow-up on this. WebLogic 10 is being released at the end of March, and
BlueDragon 7.0, BEA WebLogic Edition will be released at the same time. It's the
only CFML server that is officially supported by BEA.
Vince
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Author: Vince Bonfanti
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:50422#270306
Your other option is to use the only CFML server engine that's tested, sold, and
supported directly by BEA:
http://www.bea.com/framework.jsp?CNT=index.htm&FP=/content/products/weblogic/bluedragon/
Vince Bonfanti
New Atlanta Communications, LLC
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Author: Richard Kroll
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:50422#270304
> So that's where i'm at for now:
> 1) Might work with cfmx 7, but not supported.
> 2) Will most likely work with CFMX 8, but no information of whether it
> will be officially supported (the Weblogic 9.2 bit, not the java 1.5
bit).
> 3) Some kind of one time automated migration to "regular" java web app
> code.
From everything that I've heard, your assessment is right on the money.
The one time migration sounds a bit like snake oil to me as well, but it
would be theoretically possible but IMO improbable.
Rich Kroll
Author: Tanguy Rademakers
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:50422#270302
Hello All,
The company i work for currently runs CFMX v. 6 on Weblogic 8.1 / Java 1.4 on
Solaris, alongside a number of "regular" java web apps. We are starting a project
to upgrade to Weblogic 9.2 on Java 1.5, and i have been tasked with looking into
the question "which version of CF should we use?"
I've done a few Google searches and taken a look around the Adobe site, but i
thought i'd ask the members of this site for any input they may have. So far,
here's what i have found:
The latest version of CF as of this writing - v7 - supports Weblogic 7 and 8. I
haven't found any specific page on the adobe site saying "CFMX 7 doesn't support
Weblogic 9", but the company i work for is *very* conservative: in the absence of
a page saying that Weblogic 9.2 is supported, they won't go near it. From various
posts here and elsewhere on the list, i understand that some people have been
able to run CFMX 7 on Weblogic 9.x with various degrees of success.
Beyond the question of Weblogic version, there is the matter of JVM version
support. Once again, it would seem that cfmx *can* run (with some limitations)
under java 1.5, but that this configuration is not officially supported.
The next version of CFMX - v8 - will support java 1.5, but i have not been able
to find any information as to whether it will officially support Weblogic 9.x or
not. The time line is about right for us: should be released in the middle of
this year.
Finally, i have found a company - www.eknowlogie.com - which claims to have:
"...a software transformation tool to automatically migrate ColdFusion
applications to Java J2EE (including ColdFusion 5.0 and MX). The Migrator [sic]
will re-architect the original monolithic ColdFusion application into a modular
Model-View-Controller (MVC) application framework using Struts and JSP."
This sounds a bit like snake oil to me, but if it works it would be a great win
for us, since "Struts and JSP" is how all the other java based web apps around
here work.
So that's where i'm at for now:
1) Might work with cfmx 7, but not supported.
2) Will most likely work with CFMX 8, but no information of whether it will be
officially supported (the Weblogic 9.2 bit, not the java 1.5 bit).
3) Some kind of one time automated migration to "regular" java web app code.
Any thoughts from the list? Comments?
Thanks for your time,
/t
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