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I've been asked to evaluate off the shelf CMS packages for a client. So far, I'm looking at Hot Banana and FarCry. Anyone have any experience with these? Or any other suggestions for products to consider. Main requirements are flexibility, ease of use and ideally some multi-lingual abilities. Thanks Will

I've worked with FarCry.  I wouldn't recommend it to anyone with less than an army of developers, and not for production, yet.  (I'm not saying it's bad, just not "out-of-the-box" enough.) I've been asked to evaluate off the shelf CMS packages for a client. So far, I'm looking at Hot Banana and FarCry. Anyone have any experience with these? Or any other suggestions for products to consider. Main requirements are flexibility, ease of use and ideally some multi-lingual abilities. Thanks Will

> I've worked with FarCry.  I wouldn't recommend it to anyone with less > than an army of developers, and not for production, yet.  (I'm not > saying it's bad, just not "out-of-the-box" enough.) Hmm.. FarCry is an extremely *productive* framework for even a single developer, that has been running in production environments since the time CFMX was first released.  Again I'd welcome anyone who wants a tour of the platform to talk to the FarCry community itself - we'd be happy to help. http://groups.google.com/group/farcry-dev Best regards, -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/

Hi Will.  You may want to take a look at our CMS / CRM system - Community Enterprise.  It's comparable to the ones that you mentioned and does have some multi-lingual capabilities.  You can see more information here: http://www.citysoft.com/ce http://www.citysoft.com/demos Best, Nick ............................................................................ ..... Nick Gleason | CitySoft, Inc. | http://www.citysoft.com Direct: (617) 899-5395 | Fax: (617) 507-0444 Spend Less >> Do More - Community Enterprise combines great features with an affordable price. ............................................................................ ..... I've been asked to evaluate off the shelf CMS packages for a client. So far, I'm looking at Hot Banana and FarCry. Anyone have any experience with these? Or any other suggestions for products to consider. Main requirements are flexibility, ease of use and ideally some multi-lingual abilities. Thanks Will

Thanks Nick, I'll take a look. Will Hi Will.  You may want to take a look at our CMS / CRM system - Community Enterprise.  It's comparable to the ones that you mentioned and does have some multi-lingual capabilities.  You can see more information here: http://www.citysoft.com/ce http://www.citysoft.com/demos Best, Nick ............................................................................ . ...... Nick Gleason | CitySoft, Inc. | http://www.citysoft.com Direct: (617) 899-5395 | Fax: (617) 507-0444 Spend Less >> Do More - Community Enterprise combines great features with n affordable price. ............................................................................ . ...... I've been asked to evaluate off the shelf CMS packages for a client. So far, I'm looking at Hot Banana and FarCry. Anyone have any experience with these? Or any other suggestions for products to consider. Main requirements are flexibility, ease of use and ideally some multi-lingual abilities. Thanks Will

I evaluated FarCry some time ago. It seemed pretty arcane as far as getting started and I didn't find much of a developer community. In contrast, I have done some recent work with DotNetNuke...(not even being a .NET developer) and it has been pretty easy to implement. Sometimes being a Microsoft stooge has benefits.  :) I currently have a site running CFWebStore (a CMS/Ecommerce package) and another in development. It has a reasonable level of sophistication and flexibility while also being open source (but not free). An open source solution is desirable so that you can more easily fine-tune the application to meet specific client needs. I've been asked to evaluate off the shelf CMS packages for a client. So far, I'm looking at Hot Banana and FarCry. Anyone have any experience with these? Or any other suggestions for products to consider. Main requirements are flexibility, ease of use and ideally some multi-lingual abilities. Thanks Will

I'd suggest a look at AssetNow <http://www.assetnow.com/>;. Fully CSS-based, extremely flexible, definitely built with both multi-language support and full accessibility. And a very helpful, talented developer, -- Thanks, Tom Tom McNeer MediumCool http://www.mediumcool.com 1735 Johnson Road NE Atlanta, GA 30306 404.589.0560

Thanks Tom and Dave - I'll certainly look at both of these suggestions. Dave, I may have some questions so if so I'll drop you a line. Thanks. I'd suggest a look at AssetNow <http://www.assetnow.com/>;. Fully CSS-based, extremely flexible, definitely built with both multi-language support and full accessibility. And a very helpful, talented developer, -- Thanks, Tom Tom McNeer MediumCool http://www.mediumcool.com 1735 Johnson Road NE Atlanta, GA 30306 404.589.0560

Hi Billy, Yes, so far I can echo your sentiments about Farcry, which is a shame. However, I shall persevere with my evaluation anyway. I'm happier with an open source CF based system if possible, because we will need to do some tweaking no doubt, or possibly add in our own components. The client has a requirement for a Flash media player and library, with dynamic content delivered according to user level, which I am imagining having to build myself - Flex sounds ideal for this. Cheers will I evaluated FarCry some time ago. It seemed pretty arcane as far as getting started and I didn't find much of a developer community. In contrast, I have done some recent work with DotNetNuke...(not even being a .NET developer) and it has been pretty easy to implement. Sometimes being a Microsoft stooge has benefits.  :) I currently have a site running CFWebStore (a CMS/Ecommerce package) and another in development. It has a reasonable level of sophistication and flexibility while also being open source (but not free). An open source solution is desirable so that you can more easily fine-tune the application to meet specific client needs. I've been asked to evaluate off the shelf CMS packages for a client. So far, I'm looking at Hot Banana and FarCry. Anyone have any experience with these? Or any other suggestions for products to consider. Main requirements are flexibility, ease of use and ideally some multi-lingual abilities. Thanks Will

Will, > Yes, so far I can echo your sentiments about Farcry, which is a shame. > However, I shall persevere with my evaluation anyway. I'm happier with an > open source CF based system if possible, because we will need to do some > tweaking no doubt, or possibly add in our own components. The client has a > requirement for a Flash media player and library, with dynamic content > delivered according to user level, which I am imagining having to build > myself - Flex sounds ideal for this. I'd encourage you to get in touch with our team or at least the FarCry development community. We welcome the chance to showcase the platform and answer enquiries from any potential customer of FarCry.  We have a services model built around the product that provides support, training and/or development for the platform -- so there's our vested interest. We're happy to play as small or as large as a role as you need -- even if that's just to evangelise about how the solution works. Best regards, -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/

Hi Geoff, I'd love to be able to use something that was open source for this project. And the fact that there aren't $10k license fees is going to make my client very happy. Can you tell me, when is v4 due for release? I'm downloading the beta now to take a look, but I'm wondering if it would be suitable for a project due to launch in October 2007? Email me off list if you prefer. Thanks Will Will, > Yes, so far I can echo your sentiments about Farcry, which is a shame. > However, I shall persevere with my evaluation anyway. I'm happier with > an open source CF based system if possible, because we will need to do > some tweaking no doubt, or possibly add in our own components. The > client has a requirement for a Flash media player and library, with > dynamic content delivered according to user level, which I am > imagining having to build myself - Flex sounds ideal for this. I'd encourage you to get in touch with our team or at least the FarCry development community. We welcome the chance to showcase the platform and answer enquiries from any potential customer of FarCry.  We have a services model built around the product that provides support, training and/or development for the platform -- so there's our vested interest. We're happy to play as small or as large as a role as you need -- even if that's just to evangelise about how the solution works. Best regards, -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/

The only complaint I have so far is the lack of how to's and support from the mailing lists, and wiki. As I am knew to farcry, and maintaining a site developed in it getting answers from docs or developers has been poor so far. But I can say it is very powerful open source product, that is for sure. Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613  8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 Hi Geoff, I'd love to be able to use something that was open source for this project. And the fact that there aren't $10k license fees is going to make my client very happy. Can you tell me, when is v4 due for release? I'm downloading the beta now to take a look, but I'm wondering if it would be suitable for a project due to launch in October 2007? Email me off list if you prefer. Thanks Will Will, > Yes, so far I can echo your sentiments about Farcry, which is a shame. > However, I shall persevere with my evaluation anyway. I'm happier with > an open source CF based system if possible, because we will need to do > some tweaking no doubt, or possibly add in our own components. The > client has a requirement for a Flash media player and library, with > dynamic content delivered according to user level, which I am > imagining having to build myself - Flex sounds ideal for this. I'd encourage you to get in touch with our team or at least the FarCry development community. We welcome the chance to showcase the platform and answer enquiries from any potential customer of FarCry.  We have a services model built around the product that provides support, training and/or development for the platform -- so there's our vested interest. We're happy to play as small or as large as a role as you need -- even if that's just to evangelise about how the solution works. Best regards, -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/

> The only complaint I have so far is the lack of how to's and support from > the mailing lists, and wiki. > > As I am knew to farcry, and maintaining a site developed in it getting > answers from docs or developers has been poor so far. It might reflect the version of FarCry you are running.  Last I saw you were running something much older than the current version. Unfortunately, altruistic folks aren't going to be all that enthusiastic about supporting early versions as they are unlikely to be running these themselves. You could always get commercial training/support ;) -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/

> I currently have a site running CFWebStore (a CMS/Ecommerce > package) and another in development. It has a reasonable level > of sophistication and flexibility while also being open source > (but not free). Just to clarify, CFWebStore is not Open Source, it's a commercial product.  Being "open source" is different from being able to see & modify the code :-) Damien McKenna Web Developer

> I evaluated FarCry some time ago. It seemed pretty arcane as far as getting > started and I didn't find much of a developer community. These sorts of responses are far from helpful.  FarCry has had an active developer community since it was released to open source in April 2003.  It's one of the largest CF communities out there. You might try your hand at the various mailing lists: http://groups.google.com/group/farcry-dev http://groups.google.com/group/farcry-beta http://groups.google.com/group/farcry-user Aggregated here: http://www.nabble.com/FarCry-f621.html There's also commercial support, development and instructor based training available in the southern and northern hemispeheres.  Contact Daemon for details: http://www.daemon.com.au/ FarCry 4.0 is nothing short of a revolution and has been in release candidate for some time.  I'd say the FarCry community is certainly worth taking a moment to talk to -- we're a pretty helpful bunch from all over the globe. I'd be happy to showcase the framework and CMS solution to anyone who has the inclination -- just drop me a note. Best regards, -- geoff http://www.farcrycms.org/

Hot Banana is superb +1. We would have no doubt chosen it if we hadn't settled on a publishing model. "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540.  It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged.  It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s).  If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful.  If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910.  The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com Hi Will.  You may want to take a look at our CMS / CRM system - Community Enterprise.  It's comparable to the ones that you mentioned and does have some multi-lingual capabilities.  You can see more information here: http://www.citysoft.com/ce http://www.citysoft.com/demos Best, Nick ............................................................................ . ...... Nick Gleason | CitySoft, Inc. | http://www.citysoft.com Direct: (617) 899-5395 | Fax: (617) 507-0444 Spend Less >> Do More - Community Enterprise combines great features with an affordable price. ............................................................................ . ...... I've been asked to evaluate off the shelf CMS packages for a client. So far, I'm looking at Hot Banana and FarCry. Anyone have any experience with these? Or any other suggestions for products to consider. Main requirements are flexibility, ease of use and ideally some multi-lingual abilities. Thanks Will

Also, what is your budget bearing in mind that of the two you mention one is free, the other is not. "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540.  It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged.  It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s).  If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful.  If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910.  The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com I've been asked to evaluate off the shelf CMS packages for a client. So far, I'm looking at Hot Banana and FarCry. Anyone have any experience with these? Or any other suggestions for products to consider. Main requirements are flexibility, ease of use and ideally some multi-lingual abilities. Thanks Will

No budget - typically our client is keeping it close to their chest - they have a major redev we are bidding for, and I know one of the competitors has suggested Ektron, with licenses starting at circa $10k, so we are taking that as a guideline. Having said that, free is good if it meets the requirements. Historically, we have always rolled our own CMS systems, but this client is keen on an OTS package, hence the questions. Hot Banana does look pretty slick. [mailto:Neil.Robertson-Ravo@csd.reedexpo.com] Sent: 27 April 2007 18:05 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: cms Also, what is your budget bearing in mind that of the two you mention one is free, the other is not. "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540.  It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged.  It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s).  If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful.  If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910.  The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com I've been asked to evaluate off the shelf CMS packages for a client. So far, I'm looking at Hot Banana and FarCry. Anyone have any experience with these? Or any other suggestions for products to consider. Main requirements are flexibility, ease of use and ideally some multi-lingual abilities. Thanks Will

> I've been asked to evaluate off the shelf CMS packages for a > client. So far, I'm looking at Hot Banana and FarCry. Anyone > have any experience with these? > Or any other suggestions for products to consider. Main > requirements are flexibility, ease of use and ideally some > multi-lingual abilities. You might want to check out CommonSpot, which is not free, but meets your requirements in spades. For example, Voice of America uses CommonSpot for their news site, which provides content in more than 40 languages: http://www.figleaf.com/Showcase/CaseStudies/voa.cfm We do a lot of CommonSpot implementations, so feel free to contact me offline with questions. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! This email has been processed by SmoothZap - www.smoothwall.net

CommonSpot will be way out of your league money wise.  We evaluated it but it didn't make the grade for us. "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540.  It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged.  It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s).  If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful.  If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910.  The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com Thanks Tom and Dave - I'll certainly look at both of these suggestions. Dave, I may have some questions so if so I'll drop you a line. Thanks. I'd suggest a look at AssetNow <http://www.assetnow.com/>;. Fully CSS-based, extremely flexible, definitely built with both multi-language support and full accessibility. And a very helpful, talented developer, -- Thanks, Tom Tom McNeer MediumCool http://www.mediumcool.com 1735 Johnson Road NE Atlanta, GA 30306 404.589.0560

Just looking at their site now - it certainly appears more expensive than Ektron - circa $20k plus. Can you elaborate a little on the reasons why you didn't like it? Email me offlist if you prefer. Cheers w [mailto:Neil.Robertson-Ravo@csd.reedexpo.com] Sent: 27 April 2007 20:46 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: cms CommonSpot will be way out of your league money wise.  We evaluated it but it didn't make the grade for us. "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540.  It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged.  It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s).  If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful.  If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910.  The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com Thanks Tom and Dave - I'll certainly look at both of these suggestions. Dave, I may have some questions so if so I'll drop you a line. Thanks. I'd suggest a look at AssetNow <http://www.assetnow.com/>;. Fully CSS-based, extremely flexible, definitely built with both multi-language support and full accessibility. And a very helpful, talented developer, -- Thanks, Tom Tom McNeer MediumCool http://www.mediumcool.com 1735 Johnson Road NE Atlanta, GA 30306 404.589.0560