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Coldfusion hosting recomendation ?
Author: Jim Davis
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:53960#292567
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Totally depends on your application and infrastructure as applied to your
traffic/usage.
My server at CrystalTech (remember I got it three years ago) is a 1.2MHz
Celeron with 256 Meg of RAM. It works just fine as my email server (about
40 people), web server for about a dozen small sites (none very busy) and a
few other things. I used the Shared SQL Server than comes with the account
(freeing up resources on my server).
The server runs absolutely great (I'm running CF 7 Standard).
All that said in (very) general more apps benefit from more cores. If
you're running both CF and your DB and a mail server, etc then more cores
would be more beneficial than if you're just running CF. CF itself does
benefit from multiple cores as well, of course, but only if the server is
busy (server multiple simulataneous requests). Of course more apps means
more RAM needed.
Considering just CF however it's still kind of up in the air. Some
applications are much more process intensive (more CPU good) and others are
much more data intensive (more RAM good).
If you don't know what you'll hosting yet then a good balance is needed. In
general you more bang for the buck from RAM (it's cheaper and
server-components tend to be more RAM-starved than cycle starved) but that's
just a rule of thumb.
Remember tho' - this is a server. For well over 98% of web sites a server
like mine (small, slow and cheap) works just fine. Only think about
upgrading if you need to (are planning to run more services or know that
your site will receive substantial traffic or need substantial resources).
Jim Davis
Author: Jim Davis
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:53960#292563
> Doesn't it seem like their packages are missing some key elements? A
> hardware firewall is $40 extra per month? Extra gig of ram is $50 per
> month? That nearly doubles the cost.
For what it's worth that's a Hardware firewall that you can control (you're
leasing another piece of hardware). The entire network is protected (I
notices every once in awhile explaining how a DOS attack on my segment was
addressed or something like that). You can also, of course, install any
software firewall you like.
As for the RAM... I know it's expensive (my older server only has 256 Meg of
RAM) and I wish it was a one-time fee (as I think it should be) but current
allotments seem pretty good and even with the extra $50 the prices still
seem pretty reasonable. I still see VPS setups for far more than that.
I've had a CrytalTech server for a long time but I'm not super loyal to
them: I simply haven't found as good a deal from as reputable a dealer
anyplace else.
Jim Davis
Author: Russ
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:53960#292564
The quad core is faster too...
CF can only utilize about 1.5GB or ram. Leave another 500mb for windows.
So if you're just running one instance, and will have at least 2GB ram, then
it's a no-brainer to go with the quad core.
Russ
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Author: Jason Durham
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:53960#292545
Doesn't it seem like their packages are missing some key elements? A
hardware firewall is $40 extra per month? Extra gig of ram is $50 per
month? That nearly doubles the cost.
Thanks Jim.
at their website... they have
1.86GHz IntelR XeonR Dual-Core 3040 Processor or...
2.13GHz IntelR XeonR Quad-Core x3210 Processor
So...which is better for coldfusion performance ?
dual core & add more RAM ? .. or Quad Core ?
does coldfusion needs bigger RAM ? .. or more processor ?
Thanks for any opinion.
Regards.
Author: NUGROHO NOTO
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:53960#292540
Thanks Jim.
at their website... they have
1.86GHz Intel® Xeon® Dual-Core 3040 Processor or...
2.13GHz Intel® Xeon® Quad-Core x3210 Processor
So...which is better for coldfusion performance ?
dual core & add more RAM ? .. or Quad Core ?
does coldfusion needs bigger RAM ? .. or more processor ?
Thanks for any opinion.
Regards.
Author: Jim Davis
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:53960#292531
> Nobody recommend crystaltech ?
> anybody have experience with them ? specially for support on dedicated
> server ?
I've had a dedicated server from them for several years. No problems, great
support. TONS of actually useful free software.
And the absolute best prices around.
They actually just sent out a notice of improvemennts: dedicated 3Ghz dual
core processor, 1 Gig of RAM and 80 Gig disk for $99 a month for Windows
2003 ($10 cheaper for Linux).
IF anybody knows of a cheaper deal than that I'd love to know about it.
Jim Davis
Author: NUGROHO NOTO
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:53960#292525
Nobody recommend crystaltech ?
anybody have experience with them ? specially for support on dedicated server ?
Author: Michael Appenzellar
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:53960#292023
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Sent: Sun 10/21/2007 7:20 PM
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Subject: Re: Coldfusion hosting recomendation ?
I use CFDynamics for hosting a dedicated server as well. We have been with them
for almost a year now and have had no problems. Speed for me has been excellent.
The only complaint I have is that sometimes it seems like they shuffle some
questions internally amongst the sales or support departments and they arent sure
whose responsibility certain questions should go to. So sometimes it takes longer
to get a question answered than I think it should. But I have never had an actual
technical problem with the server or the network itself, it just seems like there
is a slight problem with the way they are organized. It has never made me look
for another host, I just think they could use some work on that part of the
business.
Author: Dan Crouch
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:53960#291708
I use CFDynamics for hosting a dedicated server as well. We have been with them
for almost a year now and have had no problems. Speed for me has been excellent.
The only complaint I have is that sometimes it seems like they shuffle some
questions internally amongst the sales or support departments and they arent sure
whose responsibility certain questions should go to. So sometimes it takes longer
to get a question answered than I think it should. But I have never had an actual
technical problem with the server or the network itself, it just seems like there
is a slight problem with the way they are organized. It has never made me look
for another host, I just think they could use some work on that part of the
business.
Author: Matt Quackenbush
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:53960#291697
I've been using http://www.enterhost.com/ for quite a few years. I strongly
recommend them. They're in Dallas, Texas (USA) and are a Windows and
ColdFusion shop.
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Author: Paul Hastings
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:53960#291694
NUGROHO NOTO wrote:
> Thanks.
> I will try to contact cfdynamic.com
> regarding moving database etc... which I feel a bit scary how to do this.
if you have books-on-line installed, have a look at the "Copying Databases to
Other Servers" section. as you can see there are a bunch of ways to handle this,
but mainly:
- "live" server-to-server (bcp, DTS, replication, etc.)
- "dead" backup-restore
i'd recommend the "dead" method which you can easily test with your current
remote production sql server & your local dev one. do a full backup of your
production db, copy it local, then try restoring it on your dev box.
Author: NUGROHO NOTO
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:53960#291692
Thanks.
I will try to contact cfdynamic.com
regarding moving database etc... which I feel a bit scary how to do this.
also... this database moving will involving Paul (for unicode translation)
So... any personal name recommendation I should contact ? I need someone who can
explain to me in an EASY to understand language.
(I am not a server admin... so... never do like this before)
Author: Paul Hastings
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:53960#291690
NUGROHO NOTO wrote:
> Thanks Guys... Yes... I have heard several same good recommendations for
> cfdynamics.
i'll also echo the recommendations for cfdynamics. they are so reliable i
sometimes forget exactly who we're hosting with ;-)
> One thing I want to make sure... If I am going to build a dedicated machine,
> ...should I still try to find a coldfusion hosting ? ...or... any windows
> support hosting will do fine (in this case, I have to install / manage all
> coldfusion related setting).
while you might find more & cheaper plain windows hosts, having somebody who
knows coldfusion certainly won't hurt.
> I am asking this.. because several years ago... a hosting company in Japan
> (windows based) they refused my inquiry because they did not support
> coldfusion. Hmm... I wonder... why did they refuse ? ..since I have my own
> dedicated server, my own coldfusion web server.. etc.
because "never say never", while you think you'll never need any help w/cf on
the dedicated box i bet they're experience is
different.
Author: NUGROHO NOTO
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:53960#291687
Thanks Guys...
Yes... I have heard several same good recommendations for cfdynamics.
will ask and test their speed from japan.
One thing I want to make sure...
If I am going to build a dedicated machine, ...should I still try to find a
coldfusion hosting ? ...or... any windows support hosting will do fine (in this
case, I have to install / manage all coldfusion related setting).
I am asking this.. because several years ago... a hosting company in Japan
(windows based) they refused my inquiry because they did not support coldfusion.
Hmm... I wonder... why did they refuse ? ..since I have my own dedicated server,
my own coldfusion web server.. etc.
Author: Larry Lyons
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:53960#291672
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I second that recommendation. I've been with CFDynamics for several years now and
have been quite impressed with their support and service.
regards,
larry
Author: Nick Gleason
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:53960#291654
Hi there. We've had a very good experience with CF Dynamics. Their support
is very strong and their knowledge of CF hosting is extremely good since it
is their focus. I don't know much about their international speeds, but you
may want to check in with them and find out.
Best,
Nick
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Author: NUGROHO NOTO
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:53960#291651
I have a dedicated server with hosting.com (cfxhosting.com)
Before.. my server was in Louisville.. 5 months ago they moved my server to
Irvine (CA).
and since then, the connection from Japan is becoming very slow at certain times.
traceroute shows : 819ms.
They say... NOTHING they can do... it is router problem outside their network.
Hmm... sadly... I have to find better location hosting.
Anybody can recommend a VERY GOOD Coldfusion Dedicated Hosting ?
- preferably in Japan (I had tried searching.. cannot find... anybody knows ?)
- Or.. in USA with a VERY good support..(can help install CF8, MsSQL 2005
workgroup)
- Fast connection and GOOD support is more important than budget.
Thanks.
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