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Details on ColdFusion 9's "free for academic" licensing?
Author: Kristen Schofield
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:57335#311903
The free CF8 Enterprise offer for teaching and learning is now available and
live. You can read more about it here: http://www.webbschofield.com/index.cfm/2008/9/2/ColdFusion-8-Now-Available-to-Students-and-Educators-for-Free
- Kristen Schofield
Adobe, Product Marketing
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au/blog/
Author: James Holmes
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:57335#311817
Flex builder is, however, free for any use by any member of an
educational institution, so there's a difference. While I'd love to
see a similar program for CF, I suspect the CF policy will provide
only for teaching as has been discussed.
> The details are taking longer to iron out than many people would like but
the intent seems to be allow CF to be used by students and institutions for the
purpose of learning/teaching CFML. Much like Flex Builder is free for academic
use.
--
mxAjax / CFAjax docs and other useful articles:
http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/
Author: Kristen Schofield
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:57335#311816
Hi,
We pre-announced the free offering of ColdFusion to educational institutions for
learning purposes at CFUnited. At CFUnited we mentioned that the formal
announcement and program launch would be a few months out. We were so excited we
couldn't wait to tell you. :) The offer isn't exclusive to universities. If you
are using or teaching CF for learning purposes you will be able to take
advantage. We're running on time with the program launch so keep your eye out,
the official offer will be live *soon*.
- Kristen
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Author: Sean Corfield
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:57335#311810
I saw several people jump on the "free" part without actually answering Pete's
original questions:
>desktops. Does anyone know what the policy will be for the "free for
>academic" licensing for CF9? Is it limited to colleges and universities, or
>can primary and secondary schools use that licensing scheme as well? How
>will one apply for such a license?
The details are taking longer to iron out than many people would like but the
intent seems to be allow CF to be used by students and institutions for the
purpose of learning/teaching CFML. Much like Flex Builder is free for academic
use.
>And, finally, does Adobe have any such program for CF8?
The program is intended to apply to CF8. It just hasn't been finalized yet.
I think Adobe were hoping to not only announce this at CFUNITED but have the
program in place so academic users could go ahead and download and use it for
free a couple of months ago.
Sean
Author: Aaron Rouse
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:57335#311288
I was asking more in regards of seeing if there was something pre-existing
to put into a proposal to a professor to see if they would offer a class on
it. I know some that do classes pretty much on Dreamweaver others on a PHP
and so on. I do not think any of them would want to create an entire
curriculeum though.
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 4:30 PM, Judith Dinowitz <jdinowit@houseoffusion.com
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Author: Judith Dinowitz
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:57335#311286
>Out of curiosity what do you plan on using for textbooks?
>
>On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 2:49 PM, Pete Ruckelshaus
<pruckelshaus@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>>
How about issues of FAQU? They're much lighter than most textbooks and they give
lots of practical information. :)
Contact me... We may be able to work something out.
Judith Dinowitz
Editor-in-Chief
Fusion Authority Quarterly Update
Author: Pete Ruckelshaus
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:57335#311285
For anyone who's interested, I've created a Google group for ColdFusion
Educators. The group can be found here
http://groups.google.com/group/coldfusion-educators?hl=en
If you're interested, feel free to request a group membership; this is the
first group I've created and don't know what all of the optimal settings
are, so for now I'll keep security a little tighter until I get the hang of
things.
Thanks,
Pete
Author: Jordan Michaels
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:57335#311281
I'd love to be a part of that.
Teaching CFML to students is one of the primary keys to keeping the CFML
alive, healthy, and growing - in my opinion.
I was delighted with the announcement from Adobe about this effort, and
let my contacts in the education industry know as soon as I could!
It would be nice if Adobe had something "official" about this, but I
guess Ben's blog is the next best thing eh? =P
Warm regards,
Jordan Michaels
Vivio Technologies
http://www.viviotech.net/
Open BlueDragon Steering Committee
Adobe Solution Provider
Pete Ruckelshaus wrote:
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Author: Jordan Michaels
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:57335#311282
I've been teaching a CFML class at our local Community College here for
the past couple years which I developed my own curriculum for. I set up
a VPS with CF7/CF8 on it here at the Vivio Data Center and have the
students FTP into it to do their course work. It's worked pretty well so
far.
I also talked with a few of the folks at Adobe at CFUnited (when they
made this particular announcement) and offered to donate my curriculum
to the cause if they needed. So far I haven't heard anything back from
them about it - and I've emailed them a couple times since CFUnited.
Perhaps I'm just not emailing the right person, I'm not sure.
It's understandable if folks create their own curriculum, but an
existing set would make for a nice starting point IMHO.
If nothing else, I can wrap it up into a nice little package and offer
it to the community as well. We'll see.
Warm regards,
Jordan Michaels
Vivio Technologies
http://www.viviotech.net/
Open BlueDragon Steering Committee
Adobe Solution Provider
Brad Wood wrote:
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Author: Jordan Michaels
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:57335#311283
Awesome. Must be nice to have en entire semester!
Since the classes I've been teaching are quarterly, I only provide for a
week of basic HTML, and dive into CFML right away after that.
The idea is to get the basics of CFML hammered in so that they can
create basic web apps and also provide them with enough knowledge to
expand and learn more on their own after the class is over.
The final project for the class I teach is a web applications of their
choice that contains form processing, session variables, and database
integration of some sort. If they know those fundamentals, they can
easily expand on it in any direction of their (or their employers) choosing.
Warm regards,
Jordan Michaels
Vivio Technologies
http://www.viviotech.net/
Open BlueDragon Steering Committee
Adobe Solution Provider
Pete Ruckelshaus wrote:
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Author: Pete Ruckelshaus
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:57335#311279
I'd be willing (and able) to play a role in this, and am willing to share my
web design curriculum also (and take feedback on it). Anyone else who's
interested, contact me off-list. I'm actually in the midst of writing a
lesson-sharing document management system, have the domain and everything,
but got sidetracked.
Pete
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Author: Pete Ruckelshaus
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:57335#311278
I generally create all of my own course materials, and refine them from
class to class. I then publish them as PDF's that I have on my network
drive at school (which students have read access to a portion of) and also
publish them to my teacher web site via the school's web site publishing
"system".
For my web programming class, I plan on having 2-3 weeks of condensed
XHTML/CSS refresher (web design is a prerequisite), then cover JavaScript
fundamentals for about a month, then a week or so of SQL, followed by basic
server admin stuff and then the rest of the semester will be CF.
Pete
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 10:16 AM, Aar
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Author: Brad Wood
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:57335#311276
Ben Forta's original blog on this subject said that Adobe was planning on
producing some curriculum. Later, he stated that might not happen after
all. If Adobe isn't going to produce some workbooks or whatever, there has
to be something the community can help put together. Any class room
material we could get in print somewhere has to make teaching CF a more
viable option in the eyes of the school.
Minimally, we would want an outline for the course (say a semester worth),
tests, code samples, etc.
~Brad
> Those things students lug around in backpacks. I just wondered how one
> goes
> about teaching CF in a school, if they make up the entire curriculum or if
> something actually exists for the schools to use.
Author: Aaron Rouse
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:57335#311256
Those things students lug around in backpacks. I just wondered how one goes
about teaching CF in a school, if they make up the entire curriculum or if
something actually exists for the schools to use.
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 9:23 AM, Andy Matthews
<lists@commadelimited.com>wrote:
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Author: Larry Lyons
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:57335#311255
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Peter,
I used to work for a non-profit as well. According to Adobe it was considered an
educational institution. Chances are your organization would be considered to be
the same.
Also you may want to look at some of the open source CF engines. That may provide
an alternative if funding is tight.
Author: Andy Matthews
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:57335#311253
<blank_stare>Textbooks? What are those?</blank_stare>
Out of curiosity what do you plan on using for textbooks?
Author: Aaron Rouse
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:57335#311249
Out of curiosity what do you plan on using for textbooks?
On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 2:49 PM, Pete Ruckelshaus
<pruckelshaus@gmail.com>wrote:
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Author: Gert Franz
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:57335#311242
Pete,
as of Railo 3.0 which will be available in the next couple of weeks,
Railo Professional and Railo Community will melt into one product and be
available for free. We will open source Railo in November this year, so
you don't have to deal with any costs whatsoever for your projects. If
you need any additional information, just drop me a line...
Greetings from Switzerland
Gert Franz
Railo Technologies GmbH
gert.franz@railo.ch
www.railo.ch
Join our Mailing List
german: http://de.groups.yahoo.com/group/railo/
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gary gilbert schrieb:
> Railo also has a free community edition, it has some limitations but I am
sure if you contact them and indicate that you would like to use it in a teaching
environment they may give you a version upgrade.
>
> You can see the details at http://www.railo-technologies.com/en/index.cfm?treeID=148
Author: gary gilbert
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:57335#311241
Railo also has a free community edition, it has some limitations but I am sure if
you contact them and indicate that you would like to use it in a teaching
environment they may give you a version upgrade.
You can see the details at http://www.railo-technologies.com/en/index.cfm?treeID=148
Author: James Holmes
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:57335#311240
The students can also use CF Developer edition for free at home or on
their laptops with no licensing problems.
> If you're after a free CF engine, why not use Open Blue Dragon. It has
everything you need to teach your students web programming. They have a
"Ready2Run" download which is preconfigured and only 20Mb.
>
> http://www.openbluedragon.org/download.cfm
>
> Advantage of this is your students can also use it at home or on their
laptops with no licensing problems.
>
> Get them using the free CFeclipse IDE hopefully you'll get them hooked on
CFML :)
--
mxAjax / CFAjax docs and other useful articles:
http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/
Author: Chris Blackwell
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:57335#311238
If you're after a free CF engine, why not use Open Blue Dragon. It has
everything you need to teach your students web programming. They have a
"Ready2Run" download which is preconfigured and only 20Mb.
http://www.openbluedragon.org/download.cfm
Advantage of this is your students can also use it at home or on their laptops
with no licensing problems.
Get them using the free CFeclipse IDE hopefully you'll get them hooked on CFML :)
Author: Brad Wood
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:57335#311226
From what Forta has said on his blog I believe you actually need to be
TEACHING ColdFusion to get it for free. Simply being an educational
institution is not enough to get it.
To quote Ben: "It's for educational and training use - classrooms, student
work, and so on. The free license is not for IT organizations within
education."
~Brad
> Good afternoon everyone,
>
> And how about non-profit organizations that host education-related Web
> sites on their servers.
Author: Peter Donahue
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:57335#311224
Good afternoon everyone,
And how about non-profit organizations that host education-related Web
sites on their servers. Our group is preparing to upgrade our hardware to
support additional Web development tools. I've been talking to the Sysop
about adding ColdFusion. I mentioned that CF8.0 is the latest version he
could make available to developers wishing to use it. Thanks for any
feedback.
Peter Donahue
I teach High School computer science at a public high school in Southeastern
Pennsylvania. I was able to get a section of Web Programming added as a new
class in addition to the Web Design and Computer Science (mainly Java with
some SQL). Unfortunately, I wasn't able to see if the change was "official"
until I got my class schedule late last week; first day of classes is next
Monday.
Anyway, I was planning on teaching ColdFusion fro my web programming class;
it's a logical choice (to me) and a great way to acquaint students with
programming fundamentals...and also create as many CF converts as possible
:P I talked district IT into giving me my own server for my web design and
web programming classes, and now I need a (free) CF engine; desktop security
policy would make it difficult to run IIS and CF Dev Edition on the student
desktops. Does anyone know what the policy will be for the "free for
academic" licensing for CF9? Is it limited to colleges and universities, or
can primary and secondary schools use that licensing scheme as well? How
will one apply for such a license?
And, finally, does Adobe have any such program for CF8? I'll install
BlueDragon if I have to, but would prefer to run with CF8 until CF9 becomes
available. If someone from Adobe wants to contact me directly, feel free to
do so. I also realize that some of this info might be covered by NDA, and I
don't want to get anyone in trouble.
Thanks,
Pete
Author: Dave Watts
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:57335#311223
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Would desktop security policy make it difficult to run a VMware image? You
might consider using a VMware Linux image containing CF. You don't really
need a web server at all, but you could also cover Apache in your class.
I realize this doesn't directly address your question, but offer it in the
hope that it might be helpful anyway.
Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta,
Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location.
Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information!
Author: Ian Skinner
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:57335#311222
Eric Roberts wrote:
> I bet if you give adobe a call they could tell you ;-)
>
> Eric
If you manage to call the write people. I believe we all have heard
many stories about the confusion concerning ColdFusion from front-line
Adobe support staff.
I would give one of these guys that call and short-cut all the possible
confusion.
http://www.forta.com/blog/index.cfm/2007/10/9/ColdFusions-Dedicated-Account-Managers
The post is almost a year old, but I presume it is still relevant
information.
Author: Eric Roberts
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:57335#311221
If you are on a windows server box, then you don't need apache...just use
IIS. It's pretty easy to set up. If it is on an XP box or Linux, then
yeah...use apache. I think it is a bit more user friendly than setting up
the built in server (never really cared for the built-in server...but that
is a personal preference). If you need any help setting up apache for this
(it's pretty easy if you know what you are doing *grin*)...most of us here
are pretty well versed in that and (speaking for myself) would be glad to
help you if you need it. I am not aware of the policies for academic
use...I am not sure if you have to purchase it or if it is free with the
proper credentials. I bet if you give adobe a call they could tell you ;-)
Eric
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/*Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 2:54 PM
/*To: CF-Talk
/*Subject: RE: Details on CF9's "free for academic" licensing?
/*
/*I would bet that EDU version means any EDU instituion. My friend Stephen
/*teaches grade school and got a free license for Flex because of his
/*status.
/*
/*Problem is that it's not going to be released for around a year (my
/*guess).
/*
/*You could go with something like Apache and ColdFusion. They work quite
/*well
/*together. Or even easier you could go with ColdFusion's built in web
/*server.
/*It's not full featured, but it'll do what you need.
/*
/*
/*andy
/*
/*-----Original Message-----
/*
/*Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 2:49 PM
/*To: CF-Talk
/*Subject: Details on CF9's "free for academic" licensing?
/*
/*I teach High School computer science at a public high school in
/*Southeastern
/*Pennsylvania. I was able to get a section of Web Programming added as a
/*new
/*class in addition to the Web Design and Computer Science (mainly Java with
/*some SQL). Unfortunately, I wasn't able to see if the change was
/*"official"
/*until I got my class schedule late last week; first day of classes is next
/*Monday.
/*
/*Anyway, I was planning on teaching ColdFusion fro my web programming
/*class;
/*it's a logical choice (to me) and a great way to acquaint students with
/*programming fundamentals...and also create as many CF converts as possible
/*:P I talked district IT into giving me my own server for my web design
/*and
/*web programming classes, and now I need a (free) CF engine; desktop
/*security
/*policy would make it difficult to run IIS and CF Dev Edition on the
/*student
/*desktops. Does anyone know what the policy will be for the "free for
/*academic" licensing for CF9? Is it limited to colleges and universities,
/*or
/*can primary and secondary schools use that licensing scheme as well? How
/*will one apply for such a license?
/*
/*And, finally, does Adobe have any such program for CF8? I'll install
/*BlueDragon if I have to, but would prefer to run with CF8 until CF9
/*becomes
/*available. If someone from Adobe wants to contact me directly, feel free
/*to
/*do so. I also realize that some of this info might be covered by NDA, and
/*I
/*don't want to get anyone in trouble.
/*
/*Thanks,
/*
/*Pete
/*
/*
/*
/*
/*
Author: Andy Matthews
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:57335#311220
I would bet that EDU version means any EDU instituion. My friend Stephen
teaches grade school and got a free license for Flex because of his status.
Problem is that it's not going to be released for around a year (my guess).
You could go with something like Apache and ColdFusion. They work quite well
together. Or even easier you could go with ColdFusion's built in web server.
It's not full featured, but it'll do what you need.
andy
I teach High School computer science at a public high school in Southeastern
Pennsylvania. I was able to get a section of Web Programming added as a new
class in addition to the Web Design and Computer Science (mainly Java with
some SQL). Unfortunately, I wasn't able to see if the change was "official"
until I got my class schedule late last week; first day of classes is next
Monday.
Anyway, I was planning on teaching ColdFusion fro my web programming class;
it's a logical choice (to me) and a great way to acquaint students with
programming fundamentals...and also create as many CF converts as possible
:P I talked district IT into giving me my own server for my web design and
web programming classes, and now I need a (free) CF engine; desktop security
policy would make it difficult to run IIS and CF Dev Edition on the student
desktops. Does anyone know what the policy will be for the "free for
academic" licensing for CF9? Is it limited to colleges and universities, or
can primary and secondary schools use that licensing scheme as well? How
will one apply for such a license?
And, finally, does Adobe have any such program for CF8? I'll install
BlueDragon if I have to, but would prefer to run with CF8 until CF9 becomes
available. If someone from Adobe wants to contact me directly, feel free to
do so. I also realize that some of this info might be covered by NDA, and I
don't want to get anyone in trouble.
Thanks,
Pete
Author: Pete Ruckelshaus
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:57335#311219
I teach High School computer science at a public high school in Southeastern
Pennsylvania. I was able to get a section of Web Programming added as a new
class in addition to the Web Design and Computer Science (mainly Java with
some SQL). Unfortunately, I wasn't able to see if the change was "official"
until I got my class schedule late last week; first day of classes is next
Monday.
Anyway, I was planning on teaching ColdFusion fro my web programming class;
it's a logical choice (to me) and a great way to acquaint students with
programming fundamentals...and also create as many CF converts as possible
:P I talked district IT into giving me my own server for my web design and
web programming classes, and now I need a (free) CF engine; desktop security
policy would make it difficult to run IIS and CF Dev Edition on the student
desktops. Does anyone know what the policy will be for the "free for
academic" licensing for CF9? Is it limited to colleges and universities, or
can primary and secondary schools use that licensing scheme as well? How
will one apply for such a license?
And, finally, does Adobe have any such program for CF8? I'll install
BlueDragon if I have to, but would prefer to run with CF8 until CF9 becomes
available. If someone from Adobe wants to contact me directly, feel free to
do so. I also realize that some of this info might be covered by NDA, and I
don't want to get anyone in trouble.
Thanks,
Pete
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