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Author: Hitesh Patel
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:59672#324145
Hi Barry,
I do not know any such CF webiste. In case they want to built website then I can
do it with reasonable charges/hr. I have been working in CF since 8 yrs
& currently in Sydney, Australia.
Thanks.Kind regards,
Hitesh Patel
+61 402 940 798 (Mobile)
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From: Barry Mcconaghey <bmcconaghey@gmail.com>
To: cf-talk <cf-talk@houseoffusion.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2009 4:00:48 AM
Subject: Coldfusion Sport Software
Hello.
I was asked to help build a coldfusion website for a non-profit sport
organization to help speed up the process of online applications, schedules,
etc.
Does anybody know of a good website free or paid that has CF software for a
sport organizer.
Thanks,
Barry
Author: Dave Watts
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:59672#324139
> Where do you keep you unlimited supply of drives for the unlimited
> drive space you provide?
That's easy! It's in the same place as all the money your bank would
need if everyone withdrew their account balances at the same time, and
all the bandwidth that your wireless provider would need if everyone
actually took "unlimited" seriously in their unlimited data plans.
Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta,
Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location.
Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information!
Author: Paul Alkema
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:59672#324126
I love that movie, but I don't think I get your example. :)
It's ok though. I fully agree with you. Honestly my php clients are few,
most of which are friends, family or non-profit organizations that I did
cheap or free work for. That's why I was recommending php hosting because I
can relate to the original non-profit website email.
I encourage my good customers to use CF as the development time is quicker,
though, honestly if they want to use php and which takes longer to develop I
usually don't mind the extra hours as well. :)
I'm reminded of a scene from the book "It" by Stephen King. The main
characters build a small dam in a creek in the woods when some bullies come
along and knock it down. As the bullies leave, one of them yells out "it was
a real baby dam anyway".
A client who's going to nickel and dime you over one or two billable hours
worth of hosting time, is not the sort of client you want to work with.
andy
If your client is complaining about the difference in price between $5 a
month ($60 per year) and $15 a month ($180 per year), then maybe it's time
to find yourself a new client.
Until Adobe starts offering a free version, or Railo and Open BD start
gaining more traction, PHP hosting will always be cheaper. The catch is the
speed of development. Sure you could save $120 per year, but that amounts to
ONE billable hour for some developers. Do you think your website could get
done faster if that developer had ONE more hour to work on it? Probably not.
andy
With Railo gaining more momentum now, I think we'll see some cheaper
ColdFusion hosting options. And you get your own administrator!
Alurium has Railo hosting starting at $6.75/month (200MB storage, 5GB
bandwidth). And a 60 day free trial. http://alurium.com
-Ryan
Paul Alkema wrote:
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IIS setting etc...
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Author: Andy Matthews
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:59672#324120
I'm reminded of a scene from the book "It" by Stephen King. The main
characters build a small dam in a creek in the woods when some bullies come
along and knock it down. As the bullies leave, one of them yells out "it was
a real baby dam anyway".
A client who's going to nickel and dime you over one or two billable hours
worth of hosting time, is not the sort of client you want to work with.
andy
If your client is complaining about the difference in price between $5 a
month ($60 per year) and $15 a month ($180 per year), then maybe it's time
to find yourself a new client.
Until Adobe starts offering a free version, or Railo and Open BD start
gaining more traction, PHP hosting will always be cheaper. The catch is the
speed of development. Sure you could save $120 per year, but that amounts to
ONE billable hour for some developers. Do you think your website could get
done faster if that developer had ONE more hour to work on it? Probably not.
andy
With Railo gaining more momentum now, I think we'll see some cheaper
ColdFusion hosting options. And you get your own administrator!
Alurium has Railo hosting starting at $6.75/month (200MB storage, 5GB
bandwidth). And a 60 day free trial. http://alurium.com
-Ryan
Paul Alkema wrote:
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Author: Andy Matthews
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:59672#324118
If your client is complaining about the difference in price between $5 a
month ($60 per year) and $15 a month ($180 per year), then maybe it's time
to find yourself a new client.
Until Adobe starts offering a free version, or Railo and Open BD start
gaining more traction, PHP hosting will always be cheaper. The catch is the
speed of development. Sure you could save $120 per year, but that amounts to
ONE billable hour for some developers. Do you think your website could get
done faster if that developer had ONE more hour to work on it? Probably not.
andy
With Railo gaining more momentum now, I think we'll see some cheaper
ColdFusion hosting options. And you get your own administrator!
Alurium has Railo hosting starting at $6.75/month (200MB storage, 5GB
bandwidth). And a 60 day free trial. http://alurium.com
-Ryan
Paul Alkema wrote:
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IIS setting etc...
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Author: Mike Kear
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:59672#324116
I just checked the stats for my client base and I have the average
usage for that category of package well within the limits. I have
one user paying for that 20MB disk space, but he's actually using
550MB because he has a lot of emails in his account taking up space.
I assume it's a while since his mail was cleared. I'll have a look
at his usage in a week or so and ask him to clear his emails out if
it's sill that high. But the average usage for that category of
client over our whole system is only 18MB. So it doesn't really
matter to me if one client uses 550MB.
Our clients are mostly CF developers using the space for test sites,
so therefore we only have two functions disabled and no tags disabled.
Most hosting companies cant do that, but because of our client
profile, we have found over a number of years that there has been no
problems. If we ever get anyone who does something dumb and breaks
something we might have to change the policy but in the mean time,
most of us think its best to allow people to build test versions of
the production sites with all the features running.
--
Cheers
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
AFP Webworks
http://afpwebworks.com
ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month
Author: Mike Kear
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:59672#324113
Thanks Paul. The reason CF costs more than PHP is that the Enterprise
CF costs a lot of money. It costs more, the faster new versions come
out, because the cost of one version has to be recovered before you
can consider upgrading to the next version.
As to the unlimited disk space - that is really a bit of smoke and
mirrors. The logic goes like this.....
The company might have have 90% of the clients web sites who wont use
more than 10MB (for example) no matter what their quota is. So if
they work out the numbers based on an average of 30MB usage, they can
afford to say 'unlimited disk space' knowing that even if some use
large amounts of space, the average will still be less than 30MB.
We use the same logic saying they can have unlimited number of email
accounts. We know that the vast majority of our clients have only 2
or 3 email accounts, so if a one or two clients have a hundred email
accounts, the average is still only a few. It all depends on the
client profile.
And with our system, the clients can change almost anything about
their sites including set up CF Datasources and new databases using
the great HELM control panel, which integrates seamlessly with many
aspects of the CFAdministrator - at least those aspects that we want
the clients to have access to.
Oh, one more thing. Our prices are displayed in AUD - which is not
the same as the USD. So at the moment i think our smallest plan of
AUD$15/month i think translates to about US$10/month.
Cheers
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
AFP Webworks
http://afpwebworks.com
ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month
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Author: Will Swain
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:59672#324110
Actually, that's true. :)
I NEVER asked about hosting a website!
Author: Ryan Stille
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:59672#324108
With Railo gaining more momentum now, I think we'll see some cheaper
ColdFusion hosting options. And you get your own administrator!
Alurium has Railo hosting starting at $6.75/month (200MB storage, 5GB
bandwidth). And a 60 day free trial. http://alurium.com
-Ryan
Paul Alkema wrote:
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Author: Barry Mcconaghey
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:59672#324109
I NEVER asked about hosting a website!
Author: James Holmes
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:59672#324106
Where do you keep you unlimited supply of drives for the unlimited
drive space you provide?
mxAjax / CFAjax docs and other useful articles:
http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/
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Author: Will Swain
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:59672#324105
Right. But Barry asked for cheap cf hosting recommendations.
I love ColdFusion, but when people talk shared hosting there's no
comparative to between CF shared hosting and php shared hosting.
Here is Mike Kear's Offer of CF Hosting According to his website.
CF Shared Hosting
afpwebworks.com - Advertised Hosting Plan
Monthly price - $15/M
Disk Space - 20mb
Bandwidth - 500mb/mo
MySQL Databases - None
PHP Shared Hosting
alkemadesigns.com/hosting - Advertised Hosting Plan
Monthly price - $4.95/M
Disk Space - UNLIMITED
Bandwidth - UNLIMITED
MySQL Databases - UNLIMITED
I'm not insulting Mike Kear's offer.. at all, I actually think this is low
for coldfusion hosting. The matter of the fact is, is that good CF shared
hosting costs more than good PHP hosting.
If I can get my clients to get a dedicated CF server I always encourage them
to do so, but if they can't afford it there is no comparison between PHP
shared hosting and CF shared hosting. Also, I think another downside to CF
shared hosting is the lack of control, between Cpanel, php.ini file and your
.htaccess file you have so much control of your hosting, but with CF hosting
in order to get things changed many times you have to call the hosting
company ask them to change IIS setting etc...
My recommendation is, if you're looking for shared hosting, use a PHP server
and learn PHP. If your company can afford it, go with a dedicated CF server
because CF is so much easier to write, easier to read and development time
is so much faster. :)
Paul Alkema
http://www.AlkemaDesigns.com
Barry I'm not allowed to offer you free hosting or my Chairman of
Finance will start feeding me ground glass in my dinner, but I can
talk about pretty low fee for you. ColdFusion 8, plus plenty of
disk space, bandwidth, uptime, SQLServer etc etc.
If you have a budget at all and aren't limited to free, contact me
off line and we can set something up for you. Look at my plans at
http://afpwebworks.com and we can work out a deal that's got better
dollars on it for you.
Cheers
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
AFP Webworks
http://afpwebworks.com
ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month
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<paulalkemadesigns@gmail.com>wrote:
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but
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hosting
>> company I would go with a php hosting provider like
>> http://www.alkemadesigns.com/hosting. These guys are who are recommend
all
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a
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Author: Paul Alkema
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:59672#324103
I love ColdFusion, but when people talk shared hosting there's no
comparative to between CF shared hosting and php shared hosting.
Here is Mike Kear's Offer of CF Hosting According to his website.
CF Shared Hosting
afpwebworks.com - Advertised Hosting Plan
Monthly price - $15/M
Disk Space - 20mb
Bandwidth - 500mb/mo
MySQL Databases - None
PHP Shared Hosting
alkemadesigns.com/hosting - Advertised Hosting Plan
Monthly price - $4.95/M
Disk Space - UNLIMITED
Bandwidth - UNLIMITED
MySQL Databases - UNLIMITED
I'm not insulting Mike Kear's offer.. at all, I actually think this is low
for coldfusion hosting. The matter of the fact is, is that good CF shared
hosting costs more than good PHP hosting.
If I can get my clients to get a dedicated CF server I always encourage them
to do so, but if they can't afford it there is no comparison between PHP
shared hosting and CF shared hosting. Also, I think another downside to CF
shared hosting is the lack of control, between Cpanel, php.ini file and your
.htaccess file you have so much control of your hosting, but with CF hosting
in order to get things changed many times you have to call the hosting
company ask them to change IIS setting etc...
My recommendation is, if you're looking for shared hosting, use a PHP server
and learn PHP. If your company can afford it, go with a dedicated CF server
because CF is so much easier to write, easier to read and development time
is so much faster. :)
Paul Alkema
http://www.AlkemaDesigns.com
Barry I'm not allowed to offer you free hosting or my Chairman of
Finance will start feeding me ground glass in my dinner, but I can
talk about pretty low fee for you. ColdFusion 8, plus plenty of
disk space, bandwidth, uptime, SQLServer etc etc.
If you have a budget at all and aren't limited to free, contact me
off line and we can set something up for you. Look at my plans at
http://afpwebworks.com and we can work out a deal that's got better
dollars on it for you.
Cheers
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
AFP Webworks
http://afpwebworks.com
ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month
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<paulalkemadesigns@gmail.com>wrote:
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but
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hosting
>> company I would go with a php hosting provider like
>> http://www.alkemadesigns.com/hosting. These guys are who are recommend
all
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a
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Author: Mike Kear
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:59672#324097
Barry I'm not allowed to offer you free hosting or my Chairman of
Finance will start feeding me ground glass in my dinner, but I can
talk about pretty low fee for you. ColdFusion 8, plus plenty of
disk space, bandwidth, uptime, SQLServer etc etc.
If you have a budget at all and aren't limited to free, contact me
off line and we can set something up for you. Look at my plans at
http://afpwebworks.com and we can work out a deal that's got better
dollars on it for you.
Cheers
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
AFP Webworks
http://afpwebworks.com
ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month
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Author: Dan Vega
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:59672#324089
Why would you recommend that he go to a PHP hosting company? He is looking
for a ColdFusion based solution?
Thank You
Dan Vega
danvega@gmail.com
http://www.danvega.org/
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Paul Alkema
<paulalkemadesigns@gmail.com>wrote:
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Author: Paul Alkema
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:59672#324088
Hi Barry,
You could try http://www.cfm-resources.com/index.cfm?signupType=business. I
honestly don't know how reliable they are though. I haven't tried them but
I've ran across them a couple of times. I think they force adds on your site
which can be annoying.
If I were you, I had a low budget and I was looking for a reliable hosting
company I would go with a php hosting provider like
http://www.alkemadesigns.com/hosting. These guys are who are
recommend all
my clients go with. They have 99.9% uptime and unlimited bandwidth and
unlimited webspace for $4.95 a month?
Paul Alkema
Hello.
I was asked to help build a coldfusion website for a non-profit sport
organization to help speed up the process of online applications, schedules,
etc.
Does anybody know of a good website free or paid that has CF software for a
sport organizer.
Thanks,
Barry
Author: Barry Mcconaghey
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:59672#324087
Hello.
I was asked to help build a coldfusion website for a non-profit sport
organization to help speed up the process of online applications, schedules,
etc.
Does anybody know of a good website free or paid that has CF software for a
sport organizer.
Thanks,
Barry
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