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webmaster
07/02/2009 01:56 PM

Can anyone recommend a good book for AJAX? I want to start working on more web 2.0 style apps and with the new CF server it seems to make it easier. I just need to understand more about it and how it all works. I can JavaScript and I can CF so I wouldn't think it would be too hard to pickup. Any recommendations for reading material on the subject? Thanks in advance.

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Andy Matthews
07/02/2009 02:27 PM

I'd avoid a book on "AJAX" and instead pick a book focusing on a specific JavaScript framework such as jQuery, or ExtJS. If you just want AJAX then it might be worth it to write your own code, but if you're wanting "rich internet apps" then you'll be needing DOM manipulation and effects anyway. My choice has, for the last 3 years, been jQuery. It's lightweight and super easy to use. jQuery is to JavaScript like ColdFusion is to server side languages. It makes it fast, easy, and good. The Learning jQuery 1.3 book comes highly recommended. I'd also suggest you jump on the official jQuery mailing list over at Google Groups: http://groups.google.com/group/jquery-en andy Can anyone recommend a good book for AJAX? I want to start working on more web 2.0 style apps and with the new CF server it seems to make it easier. I just need to understand more about it and how it all works. I can JavaScript and I can CF so I wouldn't think it would be too hard to pickup. Any recommendations for reading material on the subject? Thanks in advance.

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webmaster
07/02/2009 02:33 PM

Thanks a lot Andy. I knew there were different frameworks out there but wasn't sure how that fit in with AJAX. I assume they are all AJAX but much like .NET they all have different built in functions etc? I'd avoid a book on "AJAX" and instead pick a book focusing on a specific JavaScript framework such as jQuery, or ExtJS. If you just want AJAX then it might be worth it to write your own code, but if you're wanting "rich internet apps" then you'll be needing DOM manipulation and effects anyway. My choice has, for the last 3 years, been jQuery. It's lightweight and super easy to use. jQuery is to JavaScript like ColdFusion is to server side languages. It makes it fast, easy, and good. The Learning jQuery 1.3 book comes highly recommended. I'd also suggest you jump on the official jQuery mailing list over at Google Groups: http://groups.google.com/group/jquery-en andy Can anyone recommend a good book for AJAX? I want to start working on more web 2.0 style apps and with the new CF server it seems to make it easier. I just need to understand more about it and how it all works. I can JavaScript and I can CF so I wouldn't think it would be too hard to pickup. Any recommendations for reading material on the subject? Thanks in advance.

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Nathan Strutz
07/02/2009 02:55 PM

Yes, the frameworks are different, but really, there is only a few that matter, and only one of those that really actually matter. jQuery is, by far, the best. If you pay attention to most javascript questions people have these days, it's something like this:    "Q: How do I do X in javascript?"    "A: You don't. Just use jQuery." If you want a whole widget ui framework, use ExtJs. Otherwise, just use jQuery. It's unbelievably good. jquery.com has a tutorial area http://docs.jquery.com/Tutorials which is good. For me, it helps to have videos, so google it or hit up youtube for them. nathan strutz [Blog and Family @ http://www.dopefly.com/] [AZCFUG Manager @ http://www.azcfug.org/] [Twitter @nathanstrutz] On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 11:32 AM, <webmaster@pegweb.com> wrote: ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

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webmaster
07/02/2009 03:20 PM

Thanks a lot this is exactly what I needed. Yes, the frameworks are different, but really, there is only a few that matter, and only one of those that really actually matter. jQuery is, by far, the best. If you pay attention to most javascript questions people have these days, it's something like this:    "Q: How do I do X in javascript?"    "A: You don't. Just use jQuery." If you want a whole widget ui framework, use ExtJs. Otherwise, just use jQuery. It's unbelievably good. jquery.com has a tutorial area http://docs.jquery.com/Tutorials which is good. For me, it helps to have videos, so google it or hit up youtube for them. nathan strutz [Blog and Family @ http://www.dopefly.com/] [AZCFUG Manager @ http://www.azcfug.org/] [Twitter @nathanstrutz] On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 11:32 AM, <webmaster@pegweb.com> wrote: > > Thanks a lot Andy. I knew there were different frameworks out there but ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more ----- suggest ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more ----- advance. ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

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Cutter (ColdFusion)
07/02/2009 04:20 PM

Guys, I love JQuery too, for DOM manipulation. But, if you're needing ajaxified 'widgets' then Ext Js is a better choice. Not only do they have an extensive well polished and consistent library, but you can use the cfajax tags to rapid prototype an app, then build out final versions with something that looks exactly the same (since that's what they use under the hood). Shameless Promotion: Good Book? (See the signature block) Steve "Cutter" Blades Adobe Certified Professional Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer Co-Author of "Learning Ext JS" http://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js/book _____________________________ http://blog.cutterscrossing.com

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07/02/2009 04:41 PM

Can you explain in more detail ajaxified widgets? I'm looking to prefetch possible search keywords in a search field. Get a different image from the database when a user clicks and display it without refreshing the page. Change search results without refreshing the page. Stuff like that. Guys, I love JQuery too, for DOM manipulation. But, if you're needing ajaxified 'widgets' then Ext Js is a better choice. Not only do they have an extensive well polished and consistent library, but you can use the cfajax tags to rapid prototype an app, then build out final versions with something that looks exactly the same (since that's what they use under the hood). Shameless Promotion: Good Book? (See the signature block) Steve "Cutter" Blades Adobe Certified Professional Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer Co-Author of "Learning Ext JS" http://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js/book _____________________________ http://blog.cutterscrossing.com

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Cutter (ColdFusion)
07/02/2009 05:33 PM

"widgets" are the autosuggest combobox, the html data grid, border layouts, modal windows, etc., typically loaded by a remote source via Ajax. So, some of what you mention (the search field) falls under that category, while some of the other stuff is just pure Ajax, for which either JQuery or Ext Core are both well suited. Steve "Cutter" Blades Adobe Certified Professional Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer Co-Author of "Learning Ext JS" http://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js/book _____________________________ http://blog.cutterscrossing.com On 7/2/2009 3:40 PM, webmaster@pegweb.com wrote: ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----


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