Make HomeSite+ Open Source? (WAS: RE: Development Apps - Does anyone use homesite still?)

Folks: I had two other thoughts on this topic: 1) Will Adobe, or anyone else, be releasing the "ColdFusion 9 Extensions for HomeSite+" the way they had for CF MX and CF 8?  (I think not, since Adobe has officially ceased development of it per http://www.adobe.com/products/homesite/.) 2) If not, is there someone in the community who would be willing to do this? 3) If not, then is there someone in the community who is interested in developing HomeSite+?  (Since Adobe has officially ceased development, perhaps it could be made and Open Source project?) Okay, so that was three (3) thoughts!  :-) What does everyone think? Thanks, All! Christian N. Abad - President Accessible Computing, Inc. 1210 McLaughlin Drive Charlotte, NC 28212 http://www.AccessibleComputing.com 704.900.1825 (Direct Line) 704.248.6682 (Fax) Hi, Ive been using homesite for my coldfusion development now for  years (does anyone else still use it? id be interested), i have often  attempted to swap to eclipse or (more lately) cfbuilder but i find that i  spend so much more time trying to get used to the apps that i end up  reverting when i need to get some work done quickly, then im hooked back  on homesite and the circle begins again. (I also spend ages trying to  make everything look like homesite :-)) I really would like to  change to something more up to date, does anyone have any suggestions /  tips on how and what i should use (especially for MURA development). I  also use a mac which i flip between dreamweaver and cfbuilder any ideas there? Also and please nobody scream, but i do a lot of my live  development lately of ftp (or sometimes RDS) - my dev work is mainly for my works local intranet. So Homesites FTP is awesome compared to modern  apps (they just don't make em like they used to  :-). Thanks in  advance Ben

I still use HOMESITE. I tried CFECLIPSE and I tried the beta version of Adobes CF developer thing.  Both are nice, both are a drain on system resources, slow, and bloated. Yes there are some nice features, but there is something to be said for just have a nice straight up, low burden code editing tool with insight, and a good search/replace routine.  And yes, I use Dreamweaver too... but it's also slow and bloated. Robert B. Harrison Director of Interactive Services Austin & Williams 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 Hauppauge NY 11788 P : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119 F : 631.434.7022 http://www.austin-williams.com Great advertising can't be either/or.  It must be &. Plug in to our blog: A&W Unplugged http://www.austin-williams.com/unplugged __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4929 (20100309) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com

There's little point in making it Open Source. It might be a nice gesture from Adobe, but it's hard enough finding CF developers willing to do Java; finding a Delphi developer willing to support HomeSite would be even worse! For the people that like Homesite, there's nothing wrong with continuing to use it, once you don't mind a lack of updates. (This is assuming the updates are some form of proprietary/binary format; if they are text-based then the CF9 stuff yourself!) > I tried CFECLIPSE and I tried the beta version of > Adobes CF developer thing.  Both are nice, both are > a drain on system resources, slow, and bloated. Yep, CFEclipse and CFBuilder *are* slow and bloated - because they use the Eclipse platform, which is slow and bloated. It *might* be possible to produce a minimalised/streamlined Eclipse base with just the required stuff in - but there are so many other things that CFEclipse needs first, and only a limited number of people able to spare a limited amount of time to work on improving it. The great thing is that if people want CFEclipse to be better, they can help to make it better! You do NOT need to know Java to help with CFEclipse - there's plenty of other tasks that can be done, and doing those will mean that the Java developers can concentrate on the Java tasks, and thus everything improves. So, if there's things you don't like about CFEclipse (either bugs or feature requests), raise them on the issue tracker - problems can't be fixed if they're not known! And, if you want to speed their resolution, pop on to the mailing list ( cfeclipse-users@googlegroups.com ) and see if you can help out - either directly working on them, or indirectly (by improving other areas), and hopefully it wont be long before we've all got a great IDE!

CFEclipse is already a well-maintained and open-source CFML IDE that, unlike homesite, is cross-platform. I personally can't think of much reason or need for another open-source IDE - particularly one that needs work in order to be a viable option. I wouldn't complain if it were open-sourced, but I highly doubt anyone would further it's development. Getting developers involved is the hardest part of an open-source project IMO. If HomeSite were open-sourced, would you contribute to it? Would you pay someone else to contribute to it? Warm regards, Jordan Michaels Vivio Technologies http://www.viviotech.net/ Open BlueDragon Steering Committee Railo Community Distributions Christian N. Abad wrote: ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

> 1) Will Adobe, or anyone else, be releasing the > "ColdFusion 9 Extensions for HomeSite+" the way > they had for CF MX and CF 8?  (I think not, since > Adobe has officially ceased development of it per > http://www.adobe.com/products/homesite/.) I highly doubt Adobe has any plans to do anything with HomeSite whether it's releasing extentions for it or releasing the code to developers who want to keep it alive.  It would be counter-intuitive to do either from a business standpoint.  They would rather everyone forget about HomeSite and move to CFBuilder.  As much as I would like to see continued development on HomeSite I am just counting the days until I need to move to something else. As for continued development, I would just like to see a compile that plays well out of the box with Windows 7 and updated tag/function libraries.  It already has all of the features I need.  I'm still humming along with it but I know that eventually it will have to be replaced.  I have high hopes for CFBuilder, but they still have a lot of issues to work out before I'll consider using it full time. -Justin