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Author: Peter Amiri
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:61719#335903
Charlie,
If the code can run on Railo, we have shared servers in our LA data center. But
then again if the code can run in Railo you could set the time zone for each
virtual host separately. ;-)
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Peter Amiri
Founder | Alurium Hosting
949-338-3862 | peter@alurium.com | http://www.alurium.com
LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/peteramiri | IM bpamiri
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On Jul 29, 2010, at 12:09 PM, Charlie Griefer wrote:
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Author: Charlie Griefer
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:61719#335881
Mike:
The current host has severs on east coast time as well as GMT.
Unfortunately, the app is architected in such a way that it can't handle
timezone offsets, whether it's east coast or GMT... it expects that the time
entered is going to be the time displayed :\
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Mike Kear <afpwebworks@gmail.com> wrote:
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Author: Rick Mason
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:61719#335879
Check out businessgrade.com. I used to work there and they keep servers set
to all USA timezones. They are not a bargain host but under shared hosting
they greatly limit the number of sites they put on a server. They can also
get you v.p.s. in different time zones. Ask for Eric and tell him I sent you
On Jul 29, 2010 10:16 PM, "Mike Kear" <afpwebworks@gmail.com> wrote:
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> I would have thought most hosting companies would have their servers set
to
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charlie.griefer@gmail.com
>> wrote:
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>> I -think- it's 2k8, but based on my discussion with the previous
developer,
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Author: Mike Kear
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:61719#335878
I would have thought most hosting companies would have their servers set to
UTC ( or Greenwich Mean Time) . Is that not true?
I have servers in California, but ours are on UTC so we can move them from
place to place if we choose and it makes no difference to the code.
Cheers
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
AFP Webworks
http://afpwebworks.com
ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 12:02 PM, Charlie Griefer <charlie.griefer@gmail.com
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Author: Charlie Griefer
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:61719#335877
I -think- it's 2k8, but based on my discussion with the previous developer,
I'm not sure database tweaks are going to do it.
I've pitched Andy's trigger idea to the client. Still waiting to hear
back...
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 6:55 PM, Maureen <mamamaureen@gmail.com> wrote:
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Author: Maureen
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:61719#335876
Which version of SQL Server, because timezone data is handled
differently between 2005 and 2008, and if it is 2008 you could likely
fix this issue with some database tweeks.
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Charlie Griefer
<charlie.griefer@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hey Scott:
>
> Hmm... not sure that the current site will run under Railo. Also, their
> current database is SQL Server (I probably should have mentioned that).
> Looks like Alurium is exclusively Railo/mySQL (
Author: Andy Matthews
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:61719#335873
Awesome. Sometimes it's just a matter of looking at it from a different
perspective.
andy
Hey Andy:
I ran that past the previous developer and he said he thinks that could
work.
I'll run it past the client and see if they want to invest the time in me
identifying which fields would need the trigger, or if they'd rather just
move the site and be done with it :)
Thanks for the suggestion.
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 12:58 PM, Andy Matthews
<lists@commadelimited.com>wrote:
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treat.
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PST.
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Author: Charlie Griefer
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:61719#335871
Hey Andy:
I ran that past the previous developer and he said he thinks that could
work.
I'll run it past the client and see if they want to invest the time in me
identifying which fields would need the trigger, or if they'd rather just
move the site and be done with it :)
Thanks for the suggestion.
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 12:58 PM, Andy Matthews
<lists@commadelimited.com>wrote:
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Author: Scott Stewart
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:61719#335870
No problem, I just moved my blog over there.. I was at Daily Razor,
but their prices *ahem* mysterious increased substantially
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 3:52 PM, Charlie Griefer
<charlie.griefer@gmail.com> wrote:
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Author: Andy Matthews
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:61719#335869
Can I throw out a suggestion?
Consider a trigger on the database that updates a new record and changes
it's timestamp when it's inserted or updated? Then you don't need to
migrate.
andy
Nothing against Railo. My main project right now is a Railo site (altho
we're keeping it CF9 compatible) with a mySQL database. Works a treat.
I just don't know this other site well enough to be able to say, "yeah,
let's jump over to Railo and convert your MS SQL database to mySQL" :)
There's also a flex-based admin area and I'm not sure how well that would
work.
At this point in time... probably not something that the client would want
to undertake (all of the UAT that would be necessary to ensure that all
facets of the site still function properly). They're a small non-profit and
I don't think they have the manpower to even do that, nor do I think they'd
want to pay me to take that on.
Appreciate the feedback tho. I'd heard Alurium's name mentioned before.
Their prices do look appealing. Just not a good fit for this particular
client right now :\
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Scott Stewart
<webmaster@sstwebworks.com>wrote:
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that).
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Author: Charlie Griefer
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:61719#335868
Nothing against Railo. My main project right now is a Railo site (altho
we're keeping it CF9 compatible) with a mySQL database. Works a treat.
I just don't know this other site well enough to be able to say, "yeah,
let's jump over to Railo and convert your MS SQL database to mySQL" :)
There's also a flex-based admin area and I'm not sure how well that would
work.
At this point in time... probably not something that the client would want
to undertake (all of the UAT that would be necessary to ensure that all
facets of the site still function properly). They're a small non-profit and
I don't think they have the manpower to even do that, nor do I think they'd
want to pay me to take that on.
Appreciate the feedback tho. I'd heard Alurium's name mentioned before.
Their prices do look appealing. Just not a good fit for this particular
client right now :\
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Scott Stewart
<webmaster@sstwebworks.com>wrote:
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Author: Scott Stewart
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:61719#335867
Charlie, I think they are exclusively MySQL... I ported over an
implementation of blogCFM and it works fine, Railo's pretty complete
as far as tag support goes..
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Charlie Griefer
<charlie.griefer@gmail.com> wrote:
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Author: Charlie Griefer
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:61719#335866
You'd think, right? :)
I haven't even looked at the code yet. Just came onto this project last
nite. But the previous developer is a friend and I trust what he says. He
wrote the current site, and he told me in no uncertain terms that the time
zone issue would not be even remotely easy to remedy via code.
I don't know why, exactly, but I trust what I've been told.
At some point I'm sure I'll dig into the code and find out. But for now, it
looks like moving hosts will be the path of least resistance.
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Eric Cobb <cftalk@ecartech.com> wrote:
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Author: Charlie Griefer
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:61719#335865
Hey Scott:
Hmm... not sure that the current site will run under Railo. Also, their
current database is SQL Server (I probably should have mentioned that).
Looks like Alurium is exclusively Railo/mySQL (?)
Thanks,
Charlie
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Scott Stewart
<webmaster@sstwebworks.com>wrote:
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Author: Eric Cobb
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:61719#335864
Now() + 3 shouldn't be that hard to implement. ;) (assuming all of
the date/time stamps are being entered via CFML instead of the DB itself)
Just a note, Railo allows you specify the time zone for each site, so if
you want to use a Railo host, it doesn't matter where they're physically
located. Your site can have it's own time zone independent of the
server time zone. (again, assuming all of the date/time stamps are being
entered via CFML instead of the DB itself)
Thanks,
Eric Cobb
ECAR Technologies, LLC
http://www.ecartech.com
http://www.cfgears.com
Charlie Griefer wrote:
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Author: Scott Stewart
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:61719#335863
Charlie,
I think Alurium is located on the West Coast, plus they're cheap and
you can run CFML (Railo)
http://www.alurium.com
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Charlie Griefer
<charlie.griefer@gmail.com> wrote:
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Author: Charlie Griefer
Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:61719#335862
Hey all...
I know this topic ("can somebody recommend a CF host") comes up
frequently... I hate to bring it up again, but I must :)
I have a client that needs to be on shared hosting (they don't have the
funds for VPS, unfortunately) on a server with the clock set to PST.
They're a company that's physically based in CA... recently moved hosts to
an east-coast based company, and now timestamps are off by 3 hours when they
add events.
According to the previous developer, they're using a calendaring system
(specifically, a particular version of a calendaring system) that isn't set
up to handle time zone differences. He's told me that trying to update the
code to handle this would "open a whole new can of worms".
I've explored the options, and the path of least resistance seems to be to
relocate the site to a server based on the west coast. Or at the very
least, a server whose clock is set to PST.
A quick google turned up Illuminated Hosting (
http://www.illuminatedhosting.com/), but I'm not familiar with them. Does
anybody know of this company? Or of any others that have servers set to
pacific time?
Thanks!
Charlie
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Charlie Griefer
http://charlie.griefer.com/
I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my life. I love my
wife. And I wish you my kind of success.
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