ColdFusion 10 Licensing surprise?

?Hey has anyone noticed that Adobe has changed their policy on CPU and cores in CF10? They way I read it, two cpus of 4 cores each are covered, but to cpus with 8 cores each requires two licenses. I am hoping I am misreading this, because I have a bunch of 16 core boxes. :( -- Cheers! Michael David

Yeah :/ More here http://cfmumbojumbo.com/cf/index.cfm/coding/coldfusion-10-eula-changes/ ?Hey has anyone noticed that Adobe has changed their policy on CPU and cores in CF10? They way I read it, two cpus of 4 cores each are covered, but to cpus with 8 cores each requires two licenses. I am hoping I am misreading this, because I have a bunch of 16 core boxes. :( -- Cheers! Michael David

On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 7:56 AM, Michael David <lists@michaeldavid.com>wrote: ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more ----- This was discussed at length when CF10 came out. My understanding is that 4 cores counts as a "CPU", so a 16 core machine is 16/4 = 4 CPUs (2 licenses). Rakshith Naresh discusses this a bit on his blog: http://blogs.coldfusion.com/post.cfm/coldfusion-10-eula -Cameron -- Cameron Childress -- p:   678.637.5072 im: cameroncf facebook <http://www.facebook.com/cameroncf>; | twitter<http://twitter.com/cameronc>; | google+ <https://profiles.google.com/u/0/117829379451708140985>;

yes unfortunately this really makes CF10 even more expensive and not viable for shared or cloud hosting. It is really impossible to manage/track this type of licensing. The max number of instances per cloud was at least manageable with CF9. With CF10  we can use max 8 cpu cores per license. (8/4) /2 So lets say you are a host and you sell 8 x VPS's with 1 core each, that is 1 license used up. But now lets say that any of those customers decides to upgrade his VPS and add an extra CPU, if this is an automated process via a control panel then you have now exceeded your license and are completely unaware. In order to keep your licenses valid, you have to do constant manual auditing to check how many customers are using CF10, how many CPU cores they are using etc. Even if you take hosts out of the equation and just think of personal use, and your deploying in the cloud, whether it be your own private cloud or using Amazon, lets say you suddenly have a server which is struggling, so you add an extra core, would you even think to check your cf licensing first, I doubt it. I believe CF10 does phone home now and report licence usage also, so folks could be getting legal letters form Adobe with no warning or idea why, I personally know one host who is having a legal battle with Adobe because they purchased a CF license off ebay and transferred it it to themselves, but Adobe still say it is invalid and are tryi8ng to force them to buy another license, so they are clearly monitoring and taking action these days. I do think Adobe need to rethink this licensing model if they want to avoid losing their existing customers, especially hosts. I know at least half a dozen CF hosts who are not planning to upgrade to CF10. Adobe, please go back to 10 instances per license, that was fair and easier to manage. Also you are going to record and track license usage, then it would be nice to at least provide facility to report it to the license holder as well so that they can be aware if they exceed their license usage and can do something about it. On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Michael David <lists@michaeldavid.com>wrote: ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

+1! It's not often that Russ and I agree completely, but damn, he's nailed it on the head in this post. Kudos!  :-) ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more -----

On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Matt Quackenbush <quackfuzed@gmail.com>wrote: > +1! > > It's not often that Russ and I agree completely, but damn, he's nailed it > on the head in this post. Kudos!  :-) > I find Adobe to be a vile and gouging company, particularly with their UK pricing. I haven't been upgrading any of their products except CF in recent years, and I won't be upgrading that again now on a point of principle - I think this is a disgraceful way to behave. -- mac jordan www.kestrel.org | www.reactivecooking.com |  www.jordan-cats.org twitter: @ramtops