OT: Macromedia Legal Issue

I know this is OT, but I thought those of you in this list would be best able to answer this question. We use Dreamweaver UD4 with CFStudio to build our applications, in doing this, we use some of the core MM JavaScript in our sites. We've recently created a common JavaScript library for all our sites using a CustomTag to call the script into any site. Included in this library, we added 3 or 4 of the core MM scripts we often use, is there a legal problem involved if someone downloads this library from us with the MM scripts attached? Is there a disclaimer we need to add or is this just something that MM expects will happen? Thanks, Joshua Miller Web Development::Programming Eagle Technologies Group, Inc. www.eagletgi.com josh.miller@eagletgi.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm

  This might better fit over on the CF-Partners list.   I doubt there are any legal issues.   I'm curious about the efficiency of a custom tag that does nothing but drop in some custom JavaScripts.  Have you tested it for efficiency of using a custom tag vs an include vs just putting it in the page?  For that matter, has anyone done and number crunching for Custom Tag vs Include vs just putting it in the page?   Since JavaScript is not processed by CF, obviously just putting it into the page is the most efficient.  I can see the benefits of using an include if the same JavaScripts are used in many places.  I'm not sure why you would want to make it into a custom tag. At 09:37 AM 09/18/2001 -0400, you wrote: ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more ----- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm

It's used as a tag because it's located in one directory on a server and needs to be used on as many as 50 sites (virtual hosting, obviously) ... rather than having all the code just copied and displayed in the source, we're using the standard <script src="whatever"></script> ... since the pages calling the scripts could be as many as 6 directories deep, it was necessary to write a tag (or I suppose an include in a global includes directory) to create the virtual path to any possible directory. I'd be interested to know how calling a custom tag and calling an include from a global include location differ in processing time. We haven't noticed any significant change in load time, and since I'm on a whopping 26.4Kbps (horrid dial-up) connection most days, I'd notice any performance lags. Joshua Miller Web Development::Programming Eagle Technologies Group, Inc. www.eagletgi.com josh.miller@eagletgi.com   This might better fit over on the CF-Partners list.   I doubt there are any legal issues.   I'm curious about the efficiency of a custom tag that does nothing but drop in some custom JavaScripts.  Have you tested it for efficiency of using a custom tag vs an include vs just putting it in the page?  For that matter, has anyone done and number crunching for Custom Tag vs Include vs just putting it in the page?   Since JavaScript is not processed by CF, obviously just putting it into the page is the most efficient.  I can see the benefits of using an include if the same JavaScripts are used in many places.  I'm not sure why you would want to make it into a custom tag. At 09:37 AM 09/18/2001 -0400, you wrote: ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more ----- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm

I found some references to an image manipulation toolset, called ImageMagick (http://www.imagemagick.org/). This looks like JUST the thing I need for a project I'm working on. However, on the site, there's no mention of it's usage with CF, or whether it's even a doable thing. Anyone out there in CF-Talk-land use ImageMagick with CF? If so, could you describe your experiences with it, both as far as interfacing with CF, and the toolset's abilities? Thanks in advance, --Scott ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm

I have used it before without a hitch using cfexecute.  Not my favorite way of doing things, but it works. Kurt I found some references to an image manipulation toolset, called ImageMagick (http://www.imagemagick.org/). This looks like JUST the thing I need for a project I'm working on. However, on the site, there's no mention of it's usage with CF, or whether it's even a doable thing. Anyone out there in CF-Talk-land use ImageMagick with CF? If so, could you describe your experiences with it, both as far as interfacing with CF, and the toolset's abilities? Thanks in advance, --Scott ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm

----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more ----- I haven't used it yet myself, but someone in our office is starting to play with it on Linux. I don't see why you couldn't use it, using CFEXECUTE to execute commands. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm

I've used it with the CFEXECUTE tag, but that's about it.  Works great there. ----------------------------- Bob Hendren President and CEO ListingWare Web:  http://www.listingware.com Direct:  770-836-3231 Toll Free:  800-867-4707 ext. 102 Fax:  800-867-4707 Email:  bhendren@listingware.com ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more ----- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com

Re: how do people use ImageMagic with ColdFusion I don't know - but I believe there are C++ and Perl interfaces to ImageMagic, as well as command line interfaces, so it seems like someone might be able to either write some tag glue or at least use cfexecute ... -- Never apply a Star Trek solution to a Babylon 5 problem. Larry W. Virden <mailto:lvirden@cas.org> <URL: http://www.purl.org/NET/lvirden/>; Even if explicitly stated to the contrary, nothing in this posting should be construed as representing my employer's opinions. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm

Thanks guys! Just what I needed to hear :) If any of you guys could toss me some examples of how you use CFEXECTUTE (i.e. the command you pass through it) to do various things, it'd probably help save me some time. Don't go out of your way, mind you... don't want to eat up anyone's time :) Thanks! --Scott ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm

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<!--- Execute ImageMagick command to make 130pix---> <cfexecute name="D:\Web\ImageMagick\mogrify.exe"          arguments="-geometry 130x130 #getuploaddir.upload##form.jobnum#\thumb\#File.ServerFile#"          outputfile="#getuploaddir.upload##form.jobnum#\errorlog.txt"          Timeout="60"> </cfexecute> <!--- Execute ImageMagick command to convert to RGB---> <cfexecute name="D:\Web\ImageMagick\mogrify.exe"          arguments="-colorspace rgb #getuploaddir.upload##form.jobnum#\thumb\#File.ServerFile#"          outputfile="#getuploaddir.upload##form.jobnum#\errorlog.txt"          Timeout="60"> </cfexecute> <!--- Execute ImageMagick command to save as .jpg---> <cfexecute name="D:\Web\ImageMagick\mogrify.exe"          arguments="-format jpg #getuploaddir.upload##form.jobnum#\thumb\#File.ServerFile#"          outputfile="#getuploaddir.upload##form.jobnum#\errorlog.txt"          Timeout="60"> </cfexecute> At 01:22 PM 9/18/2001 -0600, you wrote: ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more ----- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com

If your project needs to create thumbnails, copy/rename/move images alone, just use CFX_IMAGE. http://www.intrafoundation.com CFEXECUTE is easy to use, just read the docs, call the cmd prompt with the right arguments to complete the task for you. Again, I'm not sure how ImageMagik handles multiple calls, but if you need image maniupulations such as "remove red eye", change contrast/brightness - it's the easiest tool. Michael.   Thanks guys! Just what I needed to hear :)   If any of you guys could toss me some examples of how you use CFEXECTUTE   (i.e. the command you pass through it) to do various things, it'd probably   help save me some time. Don't go out of your way, mind you... don't want to   eat up anyone's time :)   Thanks!   --Scott    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com

I have used it on one demo site i setup.  I used ImageMagick to create thumbnails of images with the mogrify command.  It works pretty well, but i have never tested it on a live server with a lot of traffic. I was using CFEXECUTE to run the program. At 11:50 AM 9/18/2001 -0600, you wrote: ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more ----- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com

Macromedia supply software that generates scripting for your pages, which is going to be available to anyone who can view the source of your web page.  I would assume that Macromedia therefore expect the scripts to be in the public domain.  Its the same as someone stealing scripts you've written, it's not nice, but you can't really prevent it. IMO as long as you have a license for UD4 then your ok, besides how would they which of the millions of sites using DW/UD the script came from ? ChrisB "Joshua Miller" <josh.miller@eagletgi.com> wrote in message news:BGEJLICAANDGMKNBPIIDMEEKEJAA.josh.miller@eagletgi.com... > I know this is OT, but I thought those of you in this list would be best > able to answer this question. > > We use Dreamweaver UD4 with CFStudio to build our applications, in doing > this, we use some of the core MM JavaScript in our sites. We've recently > created a common JavaScript library for all our sites using a CustomTag to > call the script into any site. Included in this library, we added 3 or 4 of > the core MM scripts we often use, is there a legal problem involved if > someone downloads this library from us with the MM scripts attached? Is > there a disclaimer we need to add or is this just something that MM expects ----- Excess quoted text cut - see Original Post for more ----- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm

At 6:37 AM 9/18/1, Joshua Miller wrote: > is there a legal problem involved if someone downloads this > library from us with the MM scripts attached? I'm not sure myself, sorry. Jeffrey had the good tip of the CF-Partners list. You might consider dropping a note to wish-dreamweaver@macromedia.com on this... this feature-request drop doesn't usually get individual replies, but because it's read by multiple people on the product team, this may be the fastest way to get connected with the legal status on the reuse of these copyrighted routines. (Hmm, on another reading of your message I'm not sure whether this library is something that is executing on your sites, or whether it's part of a product which others can use on their sites... this would be a good distinction to draw in any mail sent to the staff, thanks.) jd John Dowdell, Macromedia Tech Support, San Francisco CA US Search technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/search/ Offlist email risks capture by the spam filters. I may not see your email if it's not on the list. Private one-on-one email options are available via Priority Access: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com