Comparing Coldfusion 8 vs ASP NET

I just wanted to throw my 2 cents into the conversation here.  One of the things I think everyone needs to consider is picking up multiple languages. Each platform has pros and cons depending on the application the customer wants developed.  I for one love CFML and develop on both the Adobe platform as well as New Atlanta's BlueDragon (OpenSource).  My point being is to ensure you have a diversity of skills in the unfortunate case you have to look for the next project in your carrier.  Market is getting a little tight on the CFML jobs available and it would be wise to pick up a few more server side languages. Now in comparison CFML development (Meta-Tag Development) should be considered an agile development language.  With structured frameworks availabe in the community such as PureMVC, Mach II, Fusebox, ModelGlue with Spring, development time and amount of staff is much smaller than what you would see with Java/J2EE and .NET development.  With that the cost of the server product pays for itself in the long run do to the reduction of head count on a particular project. Adobe has done a wonderful job on listening to the development community and providing easy access to solutions to tackle some of the mundane processes that we as developers are faced with in our day-to-day development.  I too have a difficult time finding the right .NET and or Java libraries to fullfil my client's needs; and unless you have links to all the libs out there its difficult to find that right solution. In closing I just wanted to say that I develop in many different languages such as Ruby, Python, Java, .NET, Flex/Actionscript, ColdFusion and PHP. Each of the languages have a plethera of Best Practices frameworks (I incorporate all my apps with MVC in mind) and addons or libs that are readily availble and most OpenSource.  The biggest question that needs to be asked here should be,  "what the client's expectations are for time to market" and "what type of legacy infastructure, if any, need to be encapsulated with the application".  The real question should be what platform, which all the platforms stated above are enterpise level languages, would fit best in the current customer's environment and/or how soon does the customer need to the application built. Again, just my 2 cents. ;-) Jason L. West http://blog.wezbiz.net /*************************************** * One of Einstein's colleagues asked him for his telephone number one day. Einstein reached for * a telephone directory and looked it up. "You don't remember your own number?" the man asked, startled. * * "No," Einstein answered. "Why should I memorize something I can so easily get from a book?" * * In fact, Einstein claimed never to memorize anything which could be looked up in less than two minutes. * (Quoted from: http://oaks.nvg.org/sa5ra17.html) /*************************************** On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 8:09 AM, Duane Boudreau <duane@cfexperts.com> wrote: > One of the biggest things I miss when I switch back to CF from ASP.Net is > Master Pages. (hint hint adobe). > > Current Visual Studio (even the express version) is light years ahead of > anything adobe has out there, although I have not see their latest IDE yet. > > You can get an add-in for PDF support, although it isn't built in > unless you use Reporting Services. There is Flex integration in the > form of open-source libraries. Multithreading is built in. RSS support > can be obtained with free code. Image manipulation I would not > classify as limited. .NET has good encryption support. It has many > more reporting options than CF, and has a built in report control. > Server monitoring is not built in, but there are third party products > that do this. MS Ajax is built in and MS officially supports jQuery. > ZIP and JAR are built in. Nearly every programming language supports > code reuse. > > Not having a feature built in should not be viewed as a definite > negative since most people who program .NET Web sites use community > code or purchase add-ins. > > Comparing CF to ASP.NET in a grid fashion does not seem ideal. There > are so many other factors, such as availability of skilled workers, > product support, integration with other products, etc. > > -Mike Chabot > > > > I'm pretty sure .net can do all of the things in that list. The > > question is, how easily... > > > > Neil Middleton > > <sent from phone> > > > > On 7 Jan 2009, at 21:32, Joel Polsky <jsp2001@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Hi.. I've posted this message in the CF-community > > http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:28371 > 8 > >>  but thought this list might be more appropriate. > >> > >> Wondering if the community can take a look at the below comparison, > >> I need a few of the blanks filled in.. I hope the below is readable > >> - or if there's a feature comparison on the internet specifically > >> for .NET -- then please enlighten me! > >> > >> Feature  | ColdFusion8 |ASP.NET| > >> > >> PDF Support, Dynamic, Embedded PDF documents |YES|NO| > >> ..NET Integration |YES | YES > >> Microsoft Exchange Server Integration |YES|YES| > >> Built in Interactive Debugger |YES|YES| > >> (Local Machine only) > >> Adobe Flex Integration |YES|NO| > >> Multithreading  |YES| ???| > >> RSS Feeds   |YES| ???| > >> Image Manipulation |YES|LIMITED| > >> Encryption Libraries > >> (Ability to provide 140bit encryption for secure applications.)  | > >> YES|????| > >> > >> Built in Reporting Features  |YES|????| > >> Real Time Server and Multi-server Monitoring |YES|NO (Controlled by > >> IIS server) | > >> Built in AJAX Support |YES|???| > >> ZIP and JAR Features |YES|????| > >> Code Reuse |YES|????| > >> > >> -- Thanks! > >> > >> > > > > > > > >